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14 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Bradtke is a raw talent at the moment, nothing more. Placing our ruck back-up hopes on an unproven youngster who lacks match and intense training time (for quite some time now) would be foolish and the concept of ridding the MFC of Preuss for longer-term hopes of a Bradtke talent surge in an unidentifiable future timeframe is absurd. Preuss is not there yet, either but is a long way towards the craftsmanship that the MFC will be requiring, and we have him NOW. He has several ruck back-up qualifications already and particularly, has proven himself in being 'difficult' to handle; plus, he is already under Gawny's talented influence (as experienced by Goldstein) and capable of improving even more in several important 'big bloke' roles. These are the things that interest other clubs at the moment. Our coaching team must make the effort - it must stop skirting the development of our talented list and its requirements. 

So if we get rid of Pruess and Max is injured we have no other Ruck other than part time LJ

Good reason to keep him for another year in my opinion

 
10 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I am happy to trade him, because he is surplus to our needs. But I don't want us to do what the market sees as being a fair trade. I want to extract the maximum return.

My view is that Preuss will become a very good player. Ruckmen of that size have been shown to have a big advantage and I think he has shown enough to suggest that he will be at least a good AFL ruckman.

The trade will be seen as a loss down the track IMO, but he is not going to get a game ahead of Max.

Dont Trade Him play him

14 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Bradtke is a raw talent at the moment, nothing more. Placing our ruck back-up hopes on an unproven youngster who lacks match and intense training time (for quite some time now) would be foolish and the concept of ridding the MFC of Preuss for longer-term hopes of a Bradtke talent surge in an unidentifiable future timeframe is absurd. Preuss is not there yet, either but is a long way towards the craftsmanship that the MFC will be requiring, and we have him NOW. He has several ruck back-up qualifications already and particularly, has proven himself in being 'difficult' to handle; plus, he is already under Gawny's talented influence (as experienced by Goldstein) and capable of improving even more in several important 'big bloke' roles. These are the things that interest other clubs at the moment. Our coaching team must make the effort - it must stop skirting the development of our talented list and its requirements. 

We have Jackson as our 2nd best option not Bradtke

 
50 minutes ago, Kent said:

Dont Trade Him play him

Unless it's a massive win for us trade wise I would keep him, only going to get better and you need a strong entire list to go all the way

13 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Unless it's a massive win for us trade wise I would keep him, only going to get better and you need a strong entire list to go all the way

What do we consider a massive win, to me a pick in the late 20s early 30s or getting our first pick into the 8 to 14 range.


55 minutes ago, drdrake said:

What do we consider a massive win, to me a pick in the late 20s early 30s or getting our first pick into the 8 to 14 range.

Maybe that range... I'll leave that to the recruiters if they got their eye on a kid or on trade it for a best 22 that we need

7 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Maybe that range... I'll leave that to the recruiters if they got their eye on a kid or on trade it for a best 22 that we need

The bottom line is we have a player that other clubs need and if you are a player you want to be playing at the highest level not playing down at Casey hoping Gawn gets injured.  When we traded for Preuss I think the club thought he would play 70% forward and 30% ruck in tandem with Max, it hasn't worked out as Preuss's forward work isn't good enough.  He needs to go somewhere as No 1 ruck, hopefully he can get this and we get want we want for the trade

10 hours ago, Demons11 said:

We have Jackson as our 2nd best option not Bradtke

I'd suggest that Jackson will be develop as a KPF, with chop-out ruck activities on occasion, only. That is why I referred to No.2 on current inclinations in Bradtke.

As for 'best', forget it. The longer that Goodwin remains even with the moderation and talents of Yze onboard, it will be the wrong choice at the wrong time in the wrong positional deployment for the wrong outcome. C'est la vie!

 

If we trade Preuss to GWS, we should insist that Caldwell is part of the deal. They have lost Corr and Davis is nearing the end, so there could be some interest in Oscar as part of a deal, if we are looking at moving him on. Oscar would probably appreciate more chances to play as well.  Losing Preuss leaves us vulnerable if Max goes down, so it has to be a win for us to release him.  
Preuss would be number 1 ruck for GWS, so if he goes there we need a best 22 player for us. 
BTW there are more Caldwell types out there than Preuss types, so while not as good a footballer, Preuss is extremely valuable to clubs that need his attributes.

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

If we trade Preuss to GWS, we should insist that Caldwell is part of the deal. They have lost Corr and Davis is nearing the end, so there could be some interest in Oscar as part of a deal, if we are looking at moving him on. Oscar would probably appreciate more chances to play as well.  Losing Preuss leaves us vulnerable if Max goes down, so it has to be a win for us to release him.  
Preuss would be number 1 ruck for GWS, so if he goes there we need a best 22 player for us. 
BTW there are more Caldwell types out there than Preuss types, so while not as good a footballer, Preuss is extremely valuable to clubs that need his attributes.

Its out of Essendon and St Kilda for Caldwell. I expect he will go to the saints.

There's been absolute no reports or noise that we are interested in Caldwell. He'll pretty much make a decision this coming week now that the saints are out of the finals.


44 minutes ago, Redleg said:

If we trade Preuss to GWS, we should insist that Caldwell is part of the deal. They have lost Corr and Davis is nearing the end, so there could be some interest in Oscar as part of a deal, if we are looking at moving him on. Oscar would probably appreciate more chances to play as well.  Losing Preuss leaves us vulnerable if Max goes down, so it has to be a win for us to release him.  
Preuss would be number 1 ruck for GWS, so if he goes there we need a best 22 player for us. 
BTW there are more Caldwell types out there than Preuss types, so while not as good a footballer, Preuss is extremely valuable to clubs that need his attributes.

Other than him being a first round pick how well do you know his game and where does he fit into our needs? Me personally I dont know it well, he may increase our overall talent but I dont feel like he solves anything for us. I dont see his exposed form at GWS being any better than Sparrow this year who I suggest is a similar player. 

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

If we trade Preuss to GWS, we should insist that Caldwell is part of the deal. They have lost Corr and Davis is nearing the end, so there could be some interest in Oscar as part of a deal, if we are looking at moving him on. Oscar would probably appreciate more chances to play as well.  Losing Preuss leaves us vulnerable if Max goes down, so it has to be a win for us to release him.  
Preuss would be number 1 ruck for GWS, so if he goes there we need a best 22 player for us. 
BTW there are more Caldwell types out there than Preuss types, so while not as good a footballer, Preuss is extremely valuable to clubs that need his attributes.

Billy Frampton - future 4th

Darcy Cameron + 62 = 56

Zac Smith - 58 

Pittonet + 61 = 54 + 63

Andrew Phillips + 61 + 72 = 57 + 70

Thats last years ruck bingo. How you’ve go from that to a former pick 11 in a super draft is beyond me. Not to mention Caldwell has to be interested in us and we have to be interested in him and there’s no evidence of that. 

1 hour ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Other than him being a first round pick how well do you know his game and where does he fit into our needs? Me personally I dont know it well, he may increase our overall talent but I dont feel like he solves anything for us. I dont see his exposed form at GWS being any better than Sparrow this year who I suggest is a similar player. 

From the limited amount I have seen of him he is an outside mid who can play inside mid and has better disposal than most of our players. Not saying he is a star but you wouldn’t get one in a Preuss deal anyway.

Tony Sheahan

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ruckman Braydon Preuss is set find a new home agreeing to terms with the

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The 25 year old has managed 18 games across three seasons and now wants greater opportunities elsewhere, hence the move to Sydney

2:57 PM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Tony Sheahan

@TonySheahan

@melbournefc

ruckman Braydon Preuss is set find a new home agreeing to terms with the

@GWSGIANTS

The 25 year old has managed 18 games across three seasons and now wants greater opportunities elsewhere, hence the move to Sydney

2:57 PM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Anyone know Sheahan's track record on breaking a story?

Hopefully GWS can throw in Toby Greene as steak knives like they offered in the Dom Tyson for pick 2 package.

 


4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Anyone know Sheahan's track record on breaking a story?

Hopefully GWS can throw in Toby Greene as steak knives like they offered in the Dom Tyson for pick 2 package.

 

Pretty ordinary in the past but seems to have a good strike rate this year so far.

GWS have been the rumour for a long time tho, so he's not entirely going out on a limb.

Giants first pick is 39 as far as i can tell.. is Pruess worth more than 39 simply because of demand and he is contracted.. would GWS part with their first pick in the draft for him? Very interesting negotiating to be done. IMO he is worth slightly more than 39 which could end up mid 40s by the time it gets to us. They may get a second rounder for Caldwell.. could we demand that?

Edited by Demon3

7 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Giants first pick is 39 as far as i can tell.. is Pruess worth more than 39 simply because of demand and he is contracted.. would GWS part with their first pick in the draft for him? Very interesting negotiating to be done. IMO he is worth slightly more than 39 which could end up mid 40s by the time it gets to us. They may get a second rounder for Caldwell.. could we demand that?

Absolutely. Ruck is a glaring weakness in their side, they are desperate for him.  I'll be pretty unhappy if that's all we get. 


Good luck to Preussy, no reason why he can’t do a good job for the Giants. I like him - kooky unit!

GWS will get a few picks from free agent compensation. Hopefully we snare one of those. I hope we demand compelling compensation haha 

Be good to see Preuss play some senior footy. Good insurance policy but can't play as 2nd ruck. 1 out he is solid. 

 
34 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Giants first pick is 39 as far as i can tell.. is Pruess worth more than 39 simply because of demand and he is contracted.. would GWS part with their first pick in the draft for him? Very interesting negotiating to be done. IMO he is worth slightly more than 39 which could end up mid 40s by the time it gets to us. They may get a second rounder for Caldwell.. could we demand that?

I agree with you @Demon3 - nonetheless,  if we get their first pick (39, or whatever) Mahoney will be perceived as weak and the club has been bent over by some legendary posters on here.

Edited by Engorged Onion

Great, but we need to agree to terms with gws too. Pick 39 wont cut it surely. That'll end up well into the 40s. 


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