7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Brown was smart and played a huge role as a key target. Weid gave us nil. Nil.  He really looks lost when he’s got a tough opponent. Doesn’t work hard enough. No gut runs.  

WWEG - what would Eddie give (for weid, who’ll then kick 200 for them year 1)

17 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

Freo will knock off the dogs in Cairns next sunday night.

I agree 

Smith was okay...

out Jetta, Melksham,

in Lockhart, Hannan 

Out: Smith, Jetta

In: Hibbo, Harmes

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Brown was smart and played a huge role as a key target. Weid gave us nil. Nil.  He really looks lost when he’s got a tough opponent. Doesn’t work hard enough. No gut runs.  

Yep, can totally see your point, but I think they played very different roles tonight. Brown roamed high up the ground, was even used in defence in the second half a bit. Thought he played ok. Personally I just think the Jackson/Weid mix has a better chance of kicking goals than a Brown/Jackson mix. Haynes is a very good defender, none of our key forwards would have done much tonight against him and with the standard MFC delivery.

I just think as far as roles go, Brown and Jackson are the interchangeable ones.

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep, can totally see your point, but I think they played very different roles tonight. Brown roamed high up the ground, was even used in defence in the second half a bit. Thought he played ok. Personally I just think the Jackson/Weid mix has a better chance of kicking goals than a Brown/Jackson mix. Haynes is a very good defender, none of our key forwards would have done much tonight against him and with the standard MFC delivery.

I just think as far as roles go, Brown and Jackson are the interchangeable ones.

Nev its a huge risk bringing an 18 year old into a do or die clash of the year off the back of a 5 week lay off. I just for the life of me see why we need to do that. 

Yes we've seen the Weid/Jacko work better then most, but that's far too much of a risk for my liking.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Nev its a huge risk bringing an 18 year old into a do or die clash of the year off the back of a 5 week lay off. I just for the life of me see why we need to do that. 

Yes we've seen the Weid/Jacko work better then most, but that's far too much of a risk for my liking.

Yep, can totally see your point. I'm banking on him being totally right to go if selected. I just think it's a more dangerous mix as far as kicking goals goes. Brown was ok tonight sure, but he did his work up the ground, I'd just like to see us have two genuine key forward roles so our entries can be better (fingers crossed).

We did better with not being boundary line obsessed tonight, but personally I'd like to push that a little harder and be even more direct.

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nev its a huge risk bringing an 18 year old into a do or die clash of the year off the back of a 5 week lay off. I just for the life of me see why we need to do that. 

Yes we've seen the Weid/Jacko work better then most, but that's far too much of a risk for my liking.

So when are you playing him? Into a final off the back of a 7 week layoff? Or are you writing him off for the year?

I reckon they will go:

Out: Jetta (injured) Hunt Brown

In: Hibberd Harmes LJ

I'm tentatively throwing Tomlinson in the out column. He just really seems to lack effort and toughness.

He's probably doing a bit that we can't see on TV, but he is genuinely the most frustrating player on our list.

I'm really hoping for Jacko to come back in to provide a bit of assistance to Weideman. The Weid is starting to look tired but don't think we can afford to rest him.

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

most important game for the year? you've got to be kidding? The game of the year was vs Sydney and then consequently Freo. These games are meaningless.We can't make finals unless some big upsets happen. 

So I've always thought people switching AFL teams was an indicator of an especially weak character and have judged them accordingly. In your case though I would be fully supportive of you finding some other team to support and would give you a massive pat on the back. Might even pay for a membership for you if you find something you like. Go Hawks! 

31 minutes ago, Rogue said:

So when are you playing him? Into a final off the back of a 7 week layoff? Or are you writing him off for the year?

Unfortunately yes i think we have too? Without no seconds football, its just too much on an 18 year key tall.

1 hour ago, billyblanks29 said:

How far off is Luke Jackson? Must have been a bad hammy

Burgess described it as having "knicked a tendon" and that those were usually around 6 week injuries.

Out: Jetta, Hunt

In: Hibberd (Lockhart if not fit), Harmes (to play solely as a mid-forward rotation)

Can't see us putting Jackson in off a 6-week injury and no match fitness while Brown has pulled his weight and deserves to stay there for now.

I love Jetta and how he has forged his career but sadly I think the game has gone past him now. He also feels incredibly injury prone at the moment, perhaps a testament to how hard and courageous he is. But I can't remember a game in recent memory where he hasn't been injured throughout a game and spent time in the hands of the trainers.

33 minutes ago, Skuit said:

So I've always thought people switching AFL teams was an indicator of an especially weak character and have judged them accordingly. In your case though I would be fully supportive of you finding some other team to support and would give you a massive pat on the back. Might even pay for a membership for you if you find something you like. Go Hawks! 

you'll come around. The dees will lose to the bombers next week and I'll just be shaking my head at people like you that start venting weeks after when the season was really lost. 

1 minute ago, Dr.D said:

you'll come around. The dees will lose to the bombers next week and I'll just be shaking my head at people like you that start venting weeks after when the season was really lost. 

Rarely vent doctor. I keep all my feelings bottled up inside so I don't annoy other people the internet. 

I thought it was a classic team effort tonight with several  star performances. Great time to be settled if we are lucky enough to make finals. 

No change unless due to  injuries. 

Lockhardt for Nev if required. 

vandenBerg --> harmes - obvious like for like ugrade

jetta --> lockhart - injured

smith --> hibberd - matchups firstly + possessions (his general defensive form has been decent)

anb --> bennell - didnt do enough, never does and its do or die

 

The defensive structure was mostly ok, one terrible breakdown that led to a walk in goal but otherwise the positioning was good, but in terms of nailing intercept chances, winning the ground balls and using the ball it was horrendous. We gifted so many goals with dropped marks, awful defending once the ball hit the ground and turnovers.

None of Tomlinson, Jetta or Smith looked up to it and Lever was his typical hot and cold self.

I'd be happy to swap all 3 of those for Hibberd and 2 of Wagner (who didn't do a lot wrong), Lockhart and Hore. Doubt we'll see 3 changes but something has to shift there.

In terms of the mids and forwards I don't know how much to change. LJ for Brown has to be a chance but maybe we don't rush the big fella back for a one off game and let Brown face his old side.

I think Hunt and Vanders might be the most shaky. Baker is hardly a lock either. I'm assuming Melksham is off limits for whatever reason but most likely goes back to the forward line. Sparrow and Harmes the options.

 

1 minute ago, Turner said:

vandenBerg --> harmes - obvious like for like ugrade

jetta --> lockhart - injured

smith --> hibberd - matchups firstly + possessions (his general defensive form has been decent)

anb --> bennell - didnt do enough, never does and its do or die

 

Had a very good second half and we aren't dropping one of our best pressure players for a poor one.

Is Sparrow over his injury? Wonder if he'll come in for someone like AVB or ANB.

9 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

Is Sparrow over his injury? Wonder if he'll come in for someone like AVB or ANB.

i hope not. I thought ANB wasn't too bad tonight and I'd prefer the big body of AVB over sparrow

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

you'll come around. The dees will lose to the bombers next week and I'll just be shaking my head at people like you that start venting weeks after when the season was really lost. 

Quick question, why are you here?

What do you get out of it? Is it to get one over genuine supporters who might have some modicum of hope?

Let's say you're right and we lose next week - is all that head shaking going to give you some form of satisfaction?

Does Jackson play if fit? 

Out: Jetta, AVB, Fritsch

In : Lockhart, Harmes, LJ