Serong/Pickett trade

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

35 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

You’d forgive him if he could hit the scoreboard. Seems a project player. At this stage we’ve overpaid. 

That miss was inexcusable but it's only his first year give him time.

[Dave1711 145]

On 9/3/2020 at 11:55 PM, RalphiusMaximus said:

Give it time.  I think Picket has shown us enough to think he'll be pretty good when he gets his strength and fitness up to the level we need. 

He needs to be coached properly, he needs to be told to not go in fifth gear all the time, slow down a bit, just needs a decent coach!! 

[The heart beats true 18,128]

Calm down on Pickett. In his first year Clarry was in and out of the side. It’s a long season for 19 year olds. He’ll get better. 

[Damo 3,356]

All sizzle no sausage. Goes to ground way too easy. Roves to the wrong spots. If he had Spargos smarts he would be a killa dilla.

[Greendale 350]

I think people's expectations are a bit too high for a first year player who went pick 12. Kossie has shown glimpses of special talent this year, but he obviously needs to be far more consistent in influencing forward contests. Whether that's by timing his crumbing, being more physical in marking contests, or getting to more tackles. He hasn't been very good over the past month, but we really should have older players performing better, pushing him out of the team.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

Kossi and Rivers are in the first of their 10+ year careers with the club.  Very happy to have them both on the list.

[Jjrogan 1,420]

4 minutes ago, Greendale said:

I think people's expectations are a bit too high for a first year player who went pick 12. Kossie has shown glimpses of special talent this year, but he obviously needs to be far more consistent in influencing forward contests. Whether that's by timing his crumbing, being more physical in marking contests, or getting to more tackles. He hasn't been very good over the past month, but we really should have older players performing better, pushing him out of the team.

Yup, cant really see the merit of evaluating draft decisions after 15 games from teenagers. Especially small forwards v midfielders but each to their own.  

One thing you cant forgive his age for is he has one of the worst free kick differential of any player in the league. 4 v 17.  Must learn not to tackle high, push in the back at the end of a chase, enroach on marking space etc etc. Soft momentum killers. 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Gotta feel for the kids who go into a draft only to end up at Melbourne.

[Pates 9,660]

34 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

That miss was inexcusable but it's only his first year give him time.

I’m not going to pot/give up on a kid in his first year but that isn’t his first relatively straight forward miss. If we need to get someone to come in to mentor him then do it, but right now he seems to be dropping his dacks at really good opportunities. When he missed that goal I saw I shift on the ground from the players on both teams, it gave confidence to Freo and sucked the life out of us. 

The trade was fine, it’s up to the team/players to get value for it. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

kozzie has been bloody gross the last month or so.  He can't find the footy, he has no football IQ (this can't be underrated), and his skills are just so so.  

 

[Elegt 872]

34 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

kozzie has been bloody gross the last month or so.  He can't find the footy, he has no football IQ (this can't be underrated), and his skills are just so so.  

 

Reminds me of Jay Kennedy-Harris. We sold the farm for Pickett and are not getting rewards. Some serious heat needs to be placed on our recruiting team. I think he will be a good player but he is not the type you'd use your first and second rounders for

[DeeZee 7,397]

Serong looks the better player so far .

Reminds me of Robbie Gray

Pickett looks exciting but never actually does anything and is as fumbly  as hell.

[Accepting Mediocrity 1,418]

Geez some on this forum is quick to bag young players. A month ago he was Cyril mk 2. Do we ever learn? Judge the selection in 5 years time, and even then things can change.

The list of reasons we are losing could fill several volumes. An inconsistent first year player isn't on it.

[poita 3,902]

I have no opinion on Serong, other than he is small for a modern midfielder. He does appear to be a genuine footballer though.

The recruitment of Pickett on the other hand breaks the first rule of drafting - only midfielders and key position players should be taken with first round picks unless your club is absolutely in the premiership window and drafting for urgent needs. 

Aside from that, Pickett is an undersized, highly flawed, highly inconsistent player who has never influenced games enough even at lower levels, and I remain highly unimpressed with this piece of drafting. He does have some talent, but not enough to succeed within the MFC patented brand of destroying young players.

[ProperDee 1,698]

Kozi will be fine.  His reflexes are actually too quick for the game right now which I put down to a mixture of youthful exuberance and inexperience.  When he learns to adjust his skills and reflexes down to the speed of the game he will be brilliant. Blind Freddy can see the talent there.

[TheoX 1,222]

Doesn't get the ball, doesn't kick goals. Didn't do it at U18 level either. Gives away frees, average skills, poor decision making. Some of that will improve obviously but he's not what you'd want from a high draft pick.

[Wells 11 5,406]

I was on the bandwagon in the draft period. It’s early days, too early to be conclusive, .but I’m certainly having doubts now. He makes so many errors in all aspects of his game and that goal he missed ...FMD. Not the first he’s missed from 15 metres either. Needs  time in the 2’s and to grow up. No more games now until he’s earned them 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

2 hours ago, ProperDee said:

Kozi will be fine.  His reflexes are actually too quick for the game right now which I put down to a mixture of youthful exuberance and inexperience.  When he learns to adjust his skills and reflexes down to the speed of the game he will be brilliant. Blind Freddy can see the talent there.

I tend to agree with this; he plays like the inexperienced kid that he is.  Unlike most kids, he actually needs to slow down and relax as he’s overdoing and overreacting with the ball in in hand.

Way too early to make a call on any of last years draftees.  Serong was always highly regarded in his draft year so there’s no shock he’s having an immediate impact, but he’s playing no better than Daniel Rich, Rhyse Palmer or Lewis Taylor did in their debut years.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 9/4/2020 at 9:18 AM, Dr.D said:

im worried about pickett. he fumbles, he falls over, he goes too quick for his own good, he lacks composure, he can't read the play, his tackling is poor. Not sure he has the tools to make it. hope I'm wrong

Spot on. Perhaps when his body catches up to his mind, he will be a star. One thing for sure he's bloody quick. He is also quite brave.

[Coq au vin 755]

He’s too small. Reminds me of JKH. Goal-kicking atrocious. Fumbles the ball. Taps inappropriately. Will be delisted in a couple of years.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Coq au vin

[Nelo 813]

Serong looks very impressive. 

[godees 863]

16 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Can you name the players you would take before him? Keep in mind he went pick 8, which is the pick we had.

Keeping in mind that we haven’t seen a lot of the players from last year yet: Tom Green, Jake Riccardi, Trent Rivers, Mitch Georgiades, Will Day

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

On 9/3/2020 at 11:53 PM, olisik said:

Will this be another one to come back and bite us? Pickett getting a lazy 4 disposals with Serong getting 22 last week.

Yes Rivers was part of the trade however this smells like Kelly/Tyson all over again.
 

 

Yes Rivers was  indeed part of the trade....  I like how casually you threw that in lol.  Kid is a gun.

 So you started a thread basically saying Serong is beter than Pickett and Rivers combined.

Come on, man..........

 

 

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

Where are they all? 

Not surprised they've gone missing...

Tonight was just a real glimpse of what to expect in the future. All the morons who expect this performance every week are kidding themselves. He's still a developing kid who is always going to have inconsistency in his game. In fact he will for the next 50 to 70 games of his career.

Olisik and the rest of the haters on here can [censored] right off for good.

Edited September 12, 2020 by dazzledavey36

[titan_uranus 25,020]

@olisik your thoughts on the win (and/or Rivers and Pickett's games)?

IMO, Pickett's first half was his best football all year. He used his pace to apply more pressure in the forward half, his touch was there, and he got involved in scoring chains.

And Rivers was incredible.