Jaded No More 68,976 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 There is a reason why two clubs invested heavily in him and yet both clubs didn’t find him to be a good fit. He didn’t work at Melbourne. Time to move on. 5 Quote
DemonSam 171 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 I think Jesse carried himself like a champ at Melbourne! Kicked more goals than anyone in a long time. 2011 Liam Jurrah 40 2012 Mitch Clark 29 2013 Jeremy Howe 28 2014 Chris Dawes 20 2015 Jesse Hogan 44 2016 Jesse Hogan 41 2017 Jeff Garlett 42 2018 Tom McDonald 53 2019 Christian Petracca 22 2020 Bayley Fritsch 22 Just to be clear in 2017 his father died, he got nut cancer came back, busted his collarbone and then returned only 3 weeks later to kick 20 goals for the year, I know COVID was tough in QLD but Fritschy ain't looking much better, and I like the boy! If anyone watched the home & away season in 2018 recently Jesse was a humongous part of it kicking 47 goals winning games off his own back, sometimes with his little mate Jeffy around his feet and don't @ about McDonald he's done... ? He would only come back to give his all, its simple as that, in my opinion. Listen to everytime Goodwin has spoken about Jesse post dees, its always very postive. 3 1 Quote
BillyBeane 254 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Who doesn't love Jesse...but we are (trying to be) a football club not a fairytale club. Damaged goods, buyer beware. Edited October 20, 2020 by BillyBeane 1 Quote
Chook in Perth 2,109 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 08:26, Wiseblood said: Do we pull off the Trent Croad special? I doubt it, but it would be great to see him in a Dees jumper again. Expand Interesting comparison. Jesse has a lot in common with Croad....if you know what I mean. More chance he moves to Byron with Wattsy and does nothing than play for Melbourne 5 3 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,562 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 12:23, Chook in Perth said: Interesting comparison. Jesse has a lot in common with Croad....if you know what I mean. Expand Croad admitted to drug abuse in a recent Open Mike Fox Footy interview. I think I know what you mean. 1 Quote
Rednblueriseing 868 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 The fact he is 25 and should be in his prime..... I'd give him a 3 year deal that has clauses keeping him on the right track on and off field, providing he is over his major injuries and ready mentally. It could be beneficial for him to be around familiar faces. I don't know or believe he was the cuase of culture disruptions at the club, We all know he delt with alot off field that would have derail anyone. Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 What price would he command? Quote
old dee 24,084 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 10:23, Diamond_Jim said: Hogan is reportedly on an amount in excess of $900k per year with a contract going till the end of 2021. He's Freo's T Mac Hard to make those numbers work for any suitor unless Freo stumps up around half. Would Hogan move on a one year deal or would he want 2 or 3? Expand According to an article in today's HUN the big year is next year when it goes up and there are performance levels he had to achieve. Reading between the lines Freo want the dollars for others in 2021. Interesting times ahead Quote
P-man 13,367 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 I’d have him back in a heartbeat but I just can’t see it happening. Would be quite the 180. 2 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 05:48, Canplay said: Bring him back. Mick Malthouses best coaching trait was to get the best out of individuals - those that weren’t overly professional but could play footy - the rat pack. I’d rather have Jesse getting into strife three times a year and kicking 50 goals than have ANB be uber professional, win the time trial but be unable to hit a target 25m away. It doesn’t have to bring down the standards of the whole group if we’ll managed and coached. Give the coaches a challenge and bring him back!! Expand My view had always been the opposite. I believed Malthouse couldn't get the best out of individuals which is why so many players left under his watch. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. That is, Malthouse was able to get the best out of those individuals, but only those who could tolerate him and vice versa. Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 03:36, Greendale said: I'd be very happy to take him on a reasonably cheap contract. We know he can fit within our forwardline, and in theory we should be more capable of addressing any issues with him compared to other clubs. Just depends if there's any bad blood between Hogan and the club. Expand Phew for a minute there I thought you were talking about Gary Ablett Senior!!!? Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 26/08/2020 at 07:56, BW511 said: If we had Hogan, Weid, Jacko and Gawny in the same side, there would be very few teams who could contain us. Hoges and Jacko can play as mids/forwards, Weid stays within 40m of goal and Gawny can rotate through the forward pocket. Still don’t think it’s the way to go, but I could be talking myself into it. Expand I could talk myself into that scenario being the way to go, as well. We have plenty of rotatable smalls/mediums; we have few mobile and marking big guys - suits my psyche for several tandemed zone attack forwards rather than key position forwards. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,181 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 20:35, Rednblueriseing said: The fact he is 25 and should be in his prime..... I'd give him a 3 year deal that has clauses keeping him on the right track on and off field, providing he is over his major injuries and ready mentally. It could be beneficial for him to be around familiar faces. I don't know or believe he was the cuase of culture disruptions at the club, We all know he delt with alot off field that would have derail anyone. Expand Yes, we could sign him to a contract that makes him become somebody else, other than the person he actually is. Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) On 21/10/2020 at 00:38, Redleg said: Yes, we could sign him to a contract that makes him become somebody else, other than the person he actually is. Expand Isn't that true of most people who get hired? Edited October 21, 2020 by TRIGON Quote
old55 23,864 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 How many special people change? How many lives are living strange? 1 Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 00:42, Pollyanna said: How many special people change? How many lives are living strange? Expand The next line's probably applicable as well 5 Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 12:22, BillyBeane said: Who doesn't love Jesse...but we are (trying to be) a football club not a fairytale club. Damaged goods, buyer beware. Expand At the moment I dont believe we can AFFORD not to investigate getting ANYONE who can play. Other teams seem to be able to mange players with issues, and yeah I know the Harley thing ended in disaster, but I know Hogan can play. Simple as that. Do we need another key forward YES. Can we go into season 2021 without another strong KPF ?? HELL NO Happy to lay the welcome mat out for him at this stage! Quote
RedFox 536 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Would take him if we got him cheap and Freo paid some of his salary. Otherwise the baggage is too heavy. Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,983 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 I'm happy for him to take Harley's place on our list. If he's prepared to take Harley's salary. Quote
AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey 390 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 00:49, picket fence said: At the moment I dont believe we can AFFORD not to investigate getting ANYONE who can play. Other teams seem to be able to mange players with issues, and yeah I know the Harley thing ended in disaster, but I know Hogan can play. Simple as that. Do we need another key forward YES. Can we go into season 2021 without another strong KPF ?? HELL NO Happy to lay the welcome mat out for him at this stage! Expand There's a massive difference between being able to play and wanting to play. Unfortunately for Jesse he just doesnt look to be that interested in a footy career anymore. Imagine coming back to the club that offloaded you to then have the enormous pressure of being the key forward that's going to save us piled back on you from the club, supporters and Vic Media. That's the last thing a person like that needs. I feel bad for the bloke, but not even moving back to his support network of family and friends has helped him or his football. His body just isnt durable. His head doesnt seem in it. We would be incredibly stupid to either think he will be all that we need to turn our forward fortunes around or that he can even get on the park. Quote
Gator 18,055 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Hogan is a particularly fine example of millenial fragility. It's a no from me. 2 Quote
Grand New Flag 3,227 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Pretty sure Melbourne walked him to the door in 2018 allowing him to smell the roses......... he is indeed a strange cat. Would love to see him back, but on the basis we were relieved he left I cant seeing us taking him back. 2 Quote
Pipefitter 2,235 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Im a hopeless romantic but this just isn’t happening. Fremantle have been chasing him since he was 16 and after finally securing him want to offload him after 2 years. Speaks volumes. 1 Quote
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