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Jesse Hogan on the way out at Freo?

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On 10/15/2020 at 11:01 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Which is why we got rid of him. Absolutely hopeless ?

Thsts rubbish LaDeeC he was just too much trouble and effort within a group and also wanted to go home.

wSnt a hopeless player at all 2 goals a game was good

Man Dees  maths are  no good though
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    I've been frozen cold and gobsmacked by any suggestion of Hogan returning to the Dees. At this particular hour of this particular day in time however I'm now just frosty and gob-slapped. So so many provisos, and it would require a heap of contract stipulations, but if the club believed he could be re-integrated (i.e. no bad blood with any current players or members of staff) and his body was close to right then I would thaw a little more and overlook recent behavioural and mental health issues if it meant a future third-rounder and the chance to humiliate Bell. I never considered Jesse truly elite in his attributes, even at his very best, but he's certainly a very capable forward and we need some more of that. 

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    13 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    I've been frozen cold and gobsmacked by any suggestion of Hogan returning to the Dees. At this particular hour of this particular day in time however I'm now just frosty and gob-slapped. So so many provisos, and it would require a heap of contract stipulations, but if the club believed he could be re-integrated (i.e. no bad blood with any current players or members of staff) and his body was close to right then I would thaw a little more and overlook recent behavioural and mental health issues if it meant a future third-rounder and the chance to humiliate Bell. I never considered Jesse truly elite in his attributes, even at his very best, but he's certainly a very capable forward and we need some more of that. 

    I think there is a slightly better chance of him returning than there is on me pulling on the boots in 2021. 

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    20 minutes ago, old dee said:

    I think there is a slightly better chance of him returning than there is on me pulling on the boots in 2021. 

    I really thought Jesse would deliver us that elusive flag as a goal scoring chf but ..........

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    Bring him back.   Mick Malthouses best coaching trait was to get the best out of individuals -  those that weren’t overly professional but could play footy -  the rat pack.

    I’d rather have Jesse getting into strife three times a year and kicking 50 goals than have ANB be uber professional, win the time trial but be unable to hit a target 25m away.  It doesn’t have to bring down the standards of the whole group if we’ll managed and coached.

    Give the coaches a challenge and bring him back!!

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    35 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    I really thought Jesse would deliver us that elusive flag as a goal scoring chf but ..........

    We have never looked like replacing the 40+ goals he kicked in 2018.

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    12 minutes ago, Canplay said:

    Bring him back.   Mick Malthouses best coaching trait was to get the best out of individuals -  those that weren’t overly professional but could play footy -  the rat pack.

    I’d rather have Jesse getting into strife three times a year and kicking 50 goals than have ANB be uber professional, win the time trial but be unable to hit a target 25m away.  It doesn’t have to bring down the standards of the whole group if we’ll managed and coached.

    Give the coaches a challenge and bring him back!!

    I think Freo would have tried to help him out and still might, they have invested alot to get him. Although I'd love him back at his best we make top 4 next year, maybe he has bad influences back in WA?  

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    I was upset when he left but looking back, getting May for Hogan will go down as a terrific trade for us

    Hogan has so much baggage the poor fella. barely played a good game in two years in his home city.  it will only get worse from here unless he gets his head right

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    57 minutes ago, old dee said:

    We have never looked like replacing the 40+ goals he kicked in 2018.

    At his best he would have also taken the pressure of Weid and Fritsch

    He was a strong mobile forward.... not many of them

    Mind you he could appear a little lazy at times and I hated the annual "will he go home threads"

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    If we dont get Brown, then Jesse would be a handy key forward. 
     

    We would want to be buying him cheap.  

    Future 3rd round 2021 pick. 

    Obvious challenges and issues and needs to overcome the mental down times.  
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    Jesse knows the players ✅

    The players know Jesse✅

    There is no Go Home Factor anymore ✅

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    1 hour ago, Rednblueriseing said:

    I think Freo would have tried to help him out and still might, they have invested alot to get him. Although I'd love him back at his best we make top 4 next year, maybe he has bad influences back in WA?  

    Freo have a poor record managing players. Doesn’t surprise me one bit that Jesse didn’t settle there.

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    7 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

    Freo have a poor record managing players. Doesn’t surprise me one bit that Jesse didn’t settle there.

    Do you believe we are any better?

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    Dockers have Jesse on trade table. 
    pass 

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    I thought it laughable he was leaving, it’s borderline lunacy he’ll ever wear a Dees jumper ever again.

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    If Brown were to nominate someone else that I would chase Jesse down to come back to the Dees. I don’t recall there being any bad blood about his leaving, he had been intimating for years that he would probably go back to Perth at some stage so it wasn’t a massive shock and I think the club had felt that the journey between club and player was over. I think he and Goody had a good relationship and I also recall Harmes being one of his best mates. Viney spoke to other clubs before re-signing so if anyone is going to accuse him of disloyalty they only look that far. 

    I think with less baggage and more runs on the board Brown is the better option but I would be all for getting Jesse back as long as Burgess thinks his foot problems have (mostly) healed. What he did in 2018 wasn’t a fluke and I saw a few of his late games towards the end of the year, it wasn’t the Jesse of old but he just starting to show glimpses. 

    I also think the Red and Blue faithful would welcome him back with (socially distant) open arms. 

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    38 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    Do you believe we are any better?

    We managed Jesse better when he was here.

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    Do we pull off the Trent Croad special?

    I doubt it, but it would be great to see him in a Dees jumper again.

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    47 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

    Surely more potential upside than the Bennell experiment?

    All comes down to the price

    I think the Bennell experiment was always such a long shot, except we all thought it would be his calf that went, and not that he would explode right as it looked like he had gotten through. 

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    35 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    Do you believe we are any better?

    In that area I would say we might actually be slightly better (staggeringly). 

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    Assuming he still wants to be an AFL player and all that it involves we should 100% be looking at getting him back, just like Bennell the upside is worth the risk even if it doesn’t come off 

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