6 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't say on the way out, as the article just talks about his trouble getting into the 22, but you can see how they've added 2 and 2 to get 4 here.

On large coin until 2021.  Would the club look at him again if he became available?  You would doubt it, plus you wouldn't make a move until the end of next year so you could get him on a more reasonable contract.

It's such a shame the way things have gone for him.  He is a highly talented player who was capable of kicking 50 goals a season.  Now he can't crack an average Freo side.

He would be a great acquisition for us particularly as Weideman matures and Jackson emerges. Would give us the best attack in the competition. 
 

Go for it, l say...

5 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

If he wasn't named Jesse Hogan, and we were just talking about some bloke from Freo with off field issues, injury problems and who is struggling for a game so badly that he's possibly being switched ends; there's no way this thread is going the way it is so far.

Big no from me.

 

I understand the off field issues are worse for him in Perth, than they are in Melbourne. He may well welcome a more stable personal situation in Melbourne if that is the case. 
 

 

The big thing hogan offered besides goals and which none of our current key fwds offer was his up field play, he had a great tank and was arguably more valuable playing as a link player on the wing who could go fwd and create a mismatch. I feel he could play in a team which already has Weid and Jackson, probably taking Melksham or Tomlinsons spot

1 hour ago, Dees2014 said:

I understand the off field issues are worse for him in Perth, than they are in Melbourne. He may well welcome a more stable personal situation in Melbourne if that is the case. 
 

 

jeff farmer also seemed to have more off field issues when he returned. sometimes its better for the player to stay away from their home environment it seems. hard to be too critical though given all the stuff he was had to deal with. shows mfc probably managed him well when he was here. supreme talent and was a star ... hopefully he can get back to there ... can't see him out of the freo side for too long though

3 talls won't work. Hogan will stun Jackson's growth. I say no.

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

3 talls won't work. Hogan will stun Jackson's growth. I say no.

Naaaa I reckon Jacko might still grow a centimetre or 2.

10 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I agree, but does he want it enough?

If Freo jumped off him after two years then you would have to question what is going on with him, especially considering that they gave up Pick 6 to get him.  He should be in the prime of his career right now and he can't get a game.  That has to be a concern.

Especially that he went home and should have been far more comfortable over there personally.  I hope he can get himself right. He was our only shining star there for quite a while. Wev'e moved on.

4 goals on Rance in 1 quarter against the tiges was magic.

I didn’t think he was leaving at the time, I didn’t think we’d be in the frame to pick up Harely let alone get him on the park in year 1... who knows but you’d lean towards it being unlikely to happen for a number of reasons already raised in the thread.
Would he be a positive or negative acquisition for our young playing group or could or leaders help lead him on and off the field? At his best it’s a no brainer but has many chances to hurt long term. 
Whatever happens, good luck Jesse.

If we could bring him in for cheap then yes 

not a top priority though 

He’s a complicated dude.

Unless he really wanted to come back to the Dees, probably not.

I’m over watching that dance of the club having to convince certain players to want to play for us. We’re no longer that club.

 

48 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

Naaaa I reckon Jacko might still grow a centimetre or 2.

The beauty of our talls: Gawn, Jackson and in this case Hogan is they are all versatile. Hogan used to do some of his best work up the ground and was particularly mobile and had a great engine. Jackson also, indeed when he was recruited the club said he could play key position/ruck as well as mobile mid. And so it has turned out to be. The addition of Hogan would make our mid field the strongest in the AFL, and our forwards unstoppable. 
 

Bring it on l say...

3 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

jeff farmer also seemed to have more off field issues when he returned. sometimes its better for the player to stay away from their home environment it seems. hard to be too critical though given all the stuff he was had to deal with. shows mfc probably managed him well when he was here. supreme talent and was a star ... hopefully he can get back to there ... can't see him out of the freo side for too long though

Jarrah anyone?

Happy with Pick 6 a bargain as it turns out

Move on Melbourne looking back doesn't make the future Hope Jesse finds some peace

In hindsight the trade worked out really well for us, as May is a brute of a full back and Hogan, stil cannot get on the park.

Edited August 21, 20204 yr by DeeZee

Its a complex e for sure but really comes down to this...

Would be more likely to win against the Doggies today with Jessie in the side?

Jesse,

I'll cut fresh flowers, make the wine cold, sit by the phone, put on Cologne-buy you a pack of smokes, whatevs.

Forwards that take grabs and kick straight are rare as rocking horse [censored].

 

 

Edited August 21, 20204 yr by Biffen

I'm not sure I could stand watching him stop dead after a missed mark and check his hands are still there, again.

 

6 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

I understand the off field issues are worse for him in Perth, than they are in Melbourne. He may well welcome a more stable personal situation in Melbourne if that is the case.

Totally agree that from an outsiders perspective things seem to have gotten a bit worse over there, and a move might be good for him, I just don't think it would be to the Dees. Whatever happens; I hope he gets it all together, bloke has been through more than most his age.

8 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Totally agree that from an outsiders perspective things seem to have gotten a bit worse over there, and a move might be good for him, I just don't think it would be to the Dees. Whatever happens; I hope he gets it all together, bloke has been through more than most his age.

Time will tell LN however I do not think a move to a third Club would be good for Jessie

29 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

In hindsight the trade worked out really well for us, as May is a brute of a full back and Hogan, stil cannot get on the park.

We also got pick 23(?) In the deal, which I believe is Sparrow.

Thank you Jesse.

yes for a low trade cost and base wages 

he was troubled here also( not as bad as in WA ), but seems MFC did a far better job of handling him. Sadly he lost this support and found his mates and so on back home

Freo as we all know was chasing him for years and made many promises, I think once they got the prize they never backed these up and he's been left on his own. 

Back in the right environment I truly believe he can get back to his best. 

13 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Been at Freo for 2 seasons in peak AFL age. Gone downhill the whole time.

Not doubting his talent, but he got what he apparently wanted and has gone backwards ever since.

Of course it's about the romanticism. Haven't seen anyone pining for any other forwards that can't get a game.

Players careers aren't always linear and consistent, ask Tom McDonald.

 

That completely disregards the foot injuries he's had to deal with since 2018.

53 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Jesse,

I'll cut fresh flowers, make the wine cold, sit by the phone, put on Cologne-buy you a pack of smokes, whatevs.

He's so vain, he probably thinks this thread is about him

12 hours ago, daisycutter said:

all he probably needs is a good partner? harley settled down when he got married and had kids. hoges can't be peter pan for ever

Dermie respectfully disagrees

21 minutes ago, markc said:

yes for a low trade cost and base wages 

he was troubled here also( not as bad as in WA ), but seems MFC did a far better job of handling him. Sadly he lost this support and found his mates and so on back home

Freo as we all know was chasing him for years and made many promises, I think once they got the prize they never backed these up and he's been left on his own. 

Back in the right environment I truly believe he can get back to his best. 

Reminds me of Jeff Farmer. Was on the brink of becoming one of the all time great small forwards in the game. 

Went to Freo and found off field trouble and was never the same again. Even Farmer has admitted that if he had his time again he would have stayed. Such significant was the better support he received in Melbourne.

Edited August 22, 20204 yr by dazzledavey36