On 8/6/2020 at 11:27 PM, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Yes, and after this clip over the head, Derm and Kingy were very jovial about him ‘wearing one’, after spending half time talking about having to protect the head. How contradictory! 
 

They also had no reaction to the instance when May was bumped heavily in the head while picking up the ball and no free kick was awarded. Apparently that sort of attack on the head is fine with Kingy and Derm. I found the narrative repulsive last night on Fox. There are too many commentators on that channel with a clear hatred of the MFC

We felt your pain KITP we enjoyed the game more with the sound turned right down, until the last Qtr at least, just to much dribble.!!!!

It's been a horrible tradition with our club for those in charge to stay quiet about these sort of things for years.

I'm really happy to see the coach call it out. Even if nothing changes, it must make the likes of Max, Clarry etc feel a bit better that their coach is calling it out.

It would p##s me off if I was a player to hear most other clubs / coaches raise these things but not ours.

We no longer need to be a club of polite people.

Hope he does it more often.

Vision on AFL site today confirms what we already know.  How does it continue week in week out?

https://www.afl.com.au/video/482945/exclusive-vision-crows-disgraceful-attack-on-sore-gawn?videoId=482945&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1596928380001

We could make an argument that he is missing this week due to the Adelaide players behavior. It’s just a dog act that doesn’t need to be done. Make a statement and suspend the players involved. We all know the afl won’t have the guts to do it.  

9 minutes ago, FrostyBeast said:

Vision on AFL site today confirms what we already know.  How does it continue week in week out?

https://www.afl.com.au/video/482945/exclusive-vision-crows-disgraceful-attack-on-sore-gawn?videoId=482945&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1596928380001

Disgusting tactics by the Crows.  No wonder Gawn is out injured now.

They deserve to have a winless season.   Ned McHenry is a little coward.

In one of them (I think the last one shown in that video) the ball is 80 metres away, but there’s an umpire 10 meters from the incident and he does nothing.

Theres no way the club didn’t make that video and leak it.

I’m glad they did.

1 minute ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Disgusting tactics by the Crows.  No wonder Gawn is out injured now.

They deserve to have a winless season.   Ned McHenry is a little coward.

And pretty damning vision of the umpires looking straight at the last incident shown in particular and ignoring it when 100m off the ball...

Amazing Max hasn’t decked an opponent yet. Just shows his professionalism putting up with utter garbage like that. It’s been happening for the last few years. Players instructed to go at him.

Remember Steele giving Max one in the kidneys in 2018 on his way to contesting a boundary throw in just to mention one example.

11 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Amazing Max hasn’t decked an opponent yet. Just shows his professionalism putting up with utter garbage like that. It’s been happening for the last few years. Players instructed to go at him.

Remember Steele giving Max one in the kidneys in 2018 on his way to contesting a boundary throw in just to mention one example.

I agree, amazing self control by Max. I would have belted the little sh*t

I love Max but is he playing 'too nice'?  It looks like he just takes it.  Maybe he should get into a scuffle every now and them.  Even if he gives away a free, I feel he needs to get more physical and let the ops know it isn't on.  Or cause a melee, wear a few fines. 

The umpires won't protect him so Max and his teammates have to do it.  In the video only once did a player (good on you Jonesy) stand up for Max.  Even JV7 didn't remonstrate when a player ran 100 meters away from the ball to crash into Max.  No-one remonstrated with Lynch or Walker when they hit Max in the upper back and back of the head. 

Players in Max's vicinity need to help him to stop 'faux tough guy-has beens' like Walker and first year pipsqueaks like McHenry targetting him.

Max, time to get physical!  Stop them pushing you around. 

Edited August 9, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Is Max playing 'too nice'?  It looks like he just takes it.  Maybe he should get into a scuffle every now and them.  Even if he gives away a free, I feel he needs to get more physical and let the ops know it isn't on.

The umpires won't protect him so Max and his teammates have to do it.  In the video only once did a player (good on you Jonesy) stand up for Max.  Even JV7 didn't remonstrate when a player ran 100 meters away from the ball to crash into Max.  Players in Max's vicinity need to help him so that pipsqueaks like McHenry from targetting him. 

Max, time to get physical!  Stop them pushing you around. 

Yeah spot on LH,

He plays like a big friendly giant & opos continue to target him because of this. They know he dosen't remonstrate, so they'll carry on - until Max shows them otherwise.

It's a tough one because its just not in the big fellas nature. The boys need to have his back!

 

15 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Is Max playing 'too nice'?  It looks like he just takes it. 

As an extension to this, i would say 97% of our team play like this - Viney, May & AVB the exceptions.

Cerca 2018 elimination final V Geelong. Just look how hard we attacked the cats. It was actually intimidating.

You either have it or you don't. The majority of our boys aren't built that way.

 

54 minutes ago, FrostyBeast said:

Vision on AFL site today confirms what we already know.  How does it continue week in week out?

https://www.afl.com.au/video/482945/exclusive-vision-crows-disgraceful-attack-on-sore-gawn?videoId=482945&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1596928380001

Because we are not one of the AFL's VIC love children.  The AFL clearly treat some clubs (and players within those clubs) differently to others.  As evidenced by (just a few examples there's plenty of others over the decades)...

? The club raising this with the AFL apparently on a number of occasions but zero response / protection on the field prior the match against the Crows

? Zero response to multiple incidents (mostly by the same player) towards Max against the Crows, even when they were clearly in plain sight of the umpires on at least one or more occasion and even when many were a country mile off the ball.

? Burgoyne laying exactly the same tackle as Nibbler but gets off vs Nibbler 4 weeks.

Bartlett needs to take this vision and keep hammering Gil till he gets an appropriate response, on the field.

 

Dude sprints across the ground 100 metres away from the ball to lay a bump WTF, no wonder they have no wins.

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Disgusting tactics by the Crows.  No wonder Gawn is out injured now.

They deserve to have a winless season.   Ned McHenry is a little coward.

AVB will get him next time. Just once, please. 

9 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Dude sprints across the ground 100 metres away from the ball to lay a bump WTF, no wonder they have no wins.

That was the striking thing about that video.  Clearly under direction by the coach.  How can the umps allow that. I hope the club released the video. 

I'll make a few points.

1. Ned McHenry is nothing but a gutless coward. Learn to get a kick first you fat little potato. Hope your career is riddled with injuries and your out of the system quick smart. Harsh? Nah [censored] the little turd.

2. Where was our players looking out for Max? We allowed [censored] like McHenry and Walker to crash into Gawn and yet no one reacted to it. Is Vandenberg supposedly in the side to crash and bash and protect his his teammate? After giving away that free kick i wanted him right amongst it looking after Gawn. Not just Vandenberg but everyone else. We seriously sick when it comes to looking out for our teammates

3. Max, love you more then anything. But geez wouldn't hurt to get some angry pills in you and actually give it back to blokes like McHenry and Walker. I remember watching Braydon Pruess last year play angry in his first game against the swans. I look at Shane Mumford and he too is someone who just doesn't take a backward step and hurts blokes for a living. Time to get angry Max because time and time again this precedent has been set since the port Adelaide game and nothing has been done since.

Edited August 9, 20204 yr by dazzledavey36

Great restraint shown by Max. Appalled that the umpires weren't on this this and/or didn't react. If this keeps going then maybe we need to select an enforcer in the side. To take an analogy from Rugby Union, even the normally calm and considered John Eales once said to a referee mid-test (re continuous opposition dirty play) "Either YOU fix this or WE will".

Eddie, Derm and King spent several minutes during our game against the Crows discussing how the AFL are supposedly red hot on getting the cheap shots out of the game. Eddie said he had personally attended meetings with Steve Hocking where it had been discussed and that the umpires paying free kicks for off the ball infringements will sort it out quick smart.

I will be very interested to see if the footage of Max being accosted results in some protection off the ball, especially as North have form for playing the man, especially against us. 

It wasn't just Gawn, it seemed Adelaide had already decided to be "tough guys" and were trying to pick fights and niggle straight away.

 

More obvious with Gawn tho. 

 

I have a bit of sympathy for McHenry as the footage shows this wasn't in play he was running to Gawn from fifty metres away. That means he was told to do it, which I think is worse.

McHenry - a fl og who will now be tarnished with this for his career - awful coaching to get the 2nd year player to do the dirty work.

Edited August 9, 20204 yr by Salems Lot

1 minute ago, Sigil said:

It wasn't just Gawn, it seemed Adelaide had already decided to be "tough guys" and were trying to pick fights and niggle straight away.

 

More obvious with Gawn tho. 

 

I have a bit of sympathy for McHenry as the footage shows this wasn't in play he was running to Gawn from fifty metres away. That means he was told to do it, which I think is worse.

Sympathy? Your kidding right? He's half the reason why Gawn isn't playing. Whether he was told or not its a gutless thing to do. He was more focused in crashing into Gawn then getting a kick. 

Hope karma hits him really hard in the coming weeks.

In all honesty, if they went back and forensically examined every game Gawn has played this year they'd find the same thing.  Brisbane did it, Port Adelaide were even worse because they were actually physically restraining Max in marking contests (Westhoff in particular).  Gawn is a bloody marvel and we are so lucky that he plays for us.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sympathy? Your kidding right? He's half the reason why Gawn isn't playing. Whether he was told or not its a gutless thing to do. He was more focused in crashing into Gawn then getting a kick. 

Hope karma hits him really hard in the coming weeks.

I said "a bit"

I'm annoyed that people higher up than a guy in his first few seasons instructed him to do it and aren't copping it as well.

Been happening all year to poor Maxy. AFL HQ are a complete joke, they beat their chests about trying to protect the heads of players', yet the same level of protection to prevent injuries (ala the treatment of Max being continually hit off the ball) ignorantly goes unnoticed.

Goody has said that they've brought it up with the AFL numerous times now, yet nothing has been done. Good on the MFC for taking this issue public, coz along with the footage, it will force the AFL to act now.

And good on Max for not retaliating to all those hits he copped on Wednesday. The umps were so one-sided until it got to a stage where the Crows couldn't win that they decided to start evening up the free kick count. If Max did retaliate, no doubt the umps would have penalised him for it (such was the rod they had for those cellar dwellers)

Edited August 9, 20204 yr by Demon Disciple