POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs Adelaide

[John Demonic 5,796]

3 hours ago, A F said:

Jackson is very Nik Nat in his influence. Doesn't get it a lot, but when he does it's flashy and relevant. I think Jackson's more of a natural footballer than Nik Nat. His game sense and body positioning for an 18 year old playing key forward is very impressive.

He jumps not only to win the hit out but position his body to plant his feet on the landing and accelerate in a any direction. I've never seen any ruckman do that. I'm curious though, will he growth spurt and have some of that mobility curbed? From 200cm to 208 for eg would either turn him into a football beast.. or a preuss

At 200cm he might never be the full minutes no 1 ruck, but basically the best part time ruck/midfielder/kpf/KPD utility in the game at his peak, you'd hope.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by John Demonic

[Adam The God 30,259]

9 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

He jumps not only to win the hit out but position his body to plant his feet on the landing and accelerate in a any direction. I've never seen any ruckman do that. I'm.curious though, will he grow any more and have some of that mobility curbed? From 200cm to 208 for eg. It is he done?

At 200cm he might never be the no 1 ruck, but basically the best part time ruck/midfielder/kpf/KPD utility in the game at his peak. 

 

I'd prefer him playing forward and midfield with bursts in the ruck, but it really depends on how he develops. 

I'd say at 18 there's a chance he could still grow a little more, but even if he's done, he's got a great leap.

[Elegt 872]

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Not saying its a good rule but Max had 4 frees paid against him one game for exactly that.

Yes and that was a disgrace. Umpires need to reward strength and good body work

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

ANB straight to tribunal , Bennell, Sparrow and Lockhart a little lighter in the pocket with fines offered.

[old55 23,573]

Sparrow took 2 strong marks and has a bit of toe - augurs well for a half back role.

[Pates 9,660]

15 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

ANB straight to tribunal , Bennell, Sparrow and Lockhart a little lighter in the pocket with fines offered.

Jeez seems harsh on Nibbler, I’d give it two weeks and move on. I felt the sling was to try to get the ball out of the crows players possession rather than it being a malicious act. 

Watch him get 4 weeks after Burgoyne got nothing. 

[jnrmac 20,065]

2 hours ago, loges said:

Thought ANB was a little unlucky here, it was basically a jumper tackle, he didn't pin the arms and then drive him to the ground in two actions., It was the Crows players momentum which created the sling affect. Perhaps he needed to release the arm he was holding.

Watching the replay the ump called high tackle when it was nowhere near high. He then changed the call to dangerous tackle after the crow was on the ground.

The same [censored] that was calling most of the high frees against melb

[Demon trucker 1,800]

6 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Exactly.

I'd have so much more respect for the analysis of guys like Kingy and Garry Lyon if the had actually coached and in the modern era.

Do like the commentary of guys like Roos, Parkin and to some extent I didn't even mind Mick Malthouse from this perspective.

Malthouse is good, can see how a game is going, and if certain  trends continue that's how a team is going to win, example, after QTR time between lions and Richmond, he pointed out how the tigers were getting the ball out of stoppages with quick running handball, and that if the lions could not stop that, then Richmond would be 4 or 5 goals up in the second QTR very quickly, and that's what happened in the first 10 minutes in the second.

[titan_uranus 25,019]

24 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

ANB straight to tribunal , Bennell, Sparrow and Lockhart a little lighter in the pocket with fines offered.

Does anyone know what Bennell and Sparrow got their fines for?

Lockhart's must have been the jumper punch.

Walker got a fine for striking Gawn (good riddance) and Murphy got a week for rough conduct on Viney, what was that?

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

Other than umpiring I have not seen much analysis of why we could not better a winless team with multiple outs for the first three quarters.

Was it Adelaide going for a win in that last quarter that gave us just that little bit of time and space.

The last quarter blitz papered over some concerns I suspect. IIRC at 3/4 time inside 50's were close so it wasn't the usual ping pong problem.

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,806]

Clean sweep of the Coaches votes:

• 10 Oliver
• 7   Viney
• 6   May
• 3   Petracca
• 2   Weideman
• 2   Salem

No surprises.  Rapt for Sam for the recognition.  It was a mature game.

Petracca 2nd on the Leader Board with a game in hand.  They may as well give the Brownlow to Neale now.  But in terms of other podium finishes we are at the stage where our players will start taking votes from each other.

My guess on vote split:

• 5/5 Oliver
• 4/3 Vine
• 4/2 May
• 3     Petracca
• 2 or 1/1  Weideman/Salem

Salem's votes might surprise some who were quite critical of his game.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

26 minutes ago, Pates said:

Jeez seems harsh on Nibbler, I’d give it two weeks and move on. I felt the sling was to try to get the ball out of the crows players possession rather than it being a malicious act. 

Watch him get 4 weeks after Burgoyne got nothing. 

Agree Pates, seems harsh on ANB, Burgoyne has avoided suspension twice this year if I’m not mistaken.

18 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Does anyone know what Bennell and Sparrow got their fines for?

Lockhart's must have been the jumper punch.

Walker got a fine for striking Gawn (good riddance) and Murphy got a week for rough conduct on Viney, what was that?

 Viney did get a shoulder to the chin, can’t remember in which quarter though. Could that be the incident? 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

22 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Clean sweep of the Coaches votes:

• 10 Oliver
• 7   Viney
• 6   May
• 3   Petracca
• 2   Weideman
• 2   Salem

No surprises.  Rapt for Sam for the recognition.  It was a mature game.

Petracca 2nd on the Leader Board with a game in hand.  They may as well give the Brownlow to Neale now.  But in terms of other podium finishes we are at the stage where our players will start taking votes from each other.

My guess on vote split:

• 5/5 Oliver
• 4/3 Vine
• 4/2 May
• 3     Petracca
• 2 or 1/1  Weideman/Salem

Salem's votes might surprise some who were quite critical of his game.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/480619/coaches-votes-r10-shaggy-cat-hot-demon-score-perfect-10

 

Jack Viney has moved into 10th place on the leaderboard.  Tracca 2nd.

Excellent stuff from the fellas with a game in hand.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[kev martin 9,892]

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

ANB straight to tribunal , Bennell, Sparrow and Lockhart a little lighter in the pocket with fines offered.

Does anyone know what happened to the guy that Lockhart went at?

He charged at him when Lockhart was limping. A bit similar to Carlisles aggression, hitting the injured hand of opponent. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

53 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Watching the replay the ump called high tackle when it was nowhere near high. He then changed the call to dangerous tackle after the crow was on the ground.

The same [censored] that was calling most of the high frees against melb

I have watched that replay back a few times, did anyone else think that the ‘high tackle’ call was actually going to be paid to Jones, who had disposed of the football and was then taken high? 
 

There was no high contact from Neale Bullen. I think a non officiating umpire had called a high tackle in favour of Jones and then the sling tackle happened and the controlling umpire overrode the call. 
 

Interested to know if others read it that way. 

[rolly 149]

Disappointed to see they started the song without everyone in the circle again

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

4 hours ago, A F said:

I reckon he held the hand of the Crow and then the jumper. The combination of both, meant that it was a clear sling tackle IMV. But I don't think it was intentional, but he should cop a week for it, as Burgoyne should have.

He'll get 3

[CHF 2,738]

My one word analysis of the game - ENCOURAGING 

ENCOURAGING that the forward structure is looking better

ENCOURAGING signs that Brayshaw is finding some form

ENCOURAGING signs that the defence is working together as a team within a team

ENCOURAGING to see Oliver working to take his game to a new level

ENCOURAGING to see the coach looking to get some support for Max

ENCOURAGING to us us perform well with Max being ,an aged on the ground

BUT........

Still a long way to go.....

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by CHF

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Does anyone know what Bennell and Sparrow got their fines for?

Think I heard on the news it was for their part in a melee. When I don't know. (All three players).

[Fat Tony 5,231]

3 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

Sparrow took 2 strong marks and has a bit of toe - augurs well for a half back role.

Not sure Sparrow is a good enough kick to play half back. He’s an inside mid IMO. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

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Edited August 6, 2020 by Mazer Rackham

[Adam The God 30,259]

5 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

Sparrow took 2 strong marks and has a bit of toe - augurs well for a half back role.

I really love how Lockhart's settled into this role, so maybe in time, Sparrow could play there too, along with the likes of Jordon too.

[Demon Marty 119]

Two main points in game style change that made huge difference in my opinion ; with room to improve  :

1 - Breaking out from the packs and DELIVERING  effective KICKS - Less blind kicks to opposition. Top work Clarry, good deliveries from Viney, Brayshaw & Petracca. ( Improvement : There were still a lot of bad deliveries resulting in turn overs.....a repeating theme. )

2 - Low , hard and fast deliveries to leading players. ( ie _ best kick all night Petracca to Fritsch. ) These deliveries have been missing this season and this game showed that we can do it. Still a way to go. The only way to improve from here is to cement in some regulars up forward. There is no better forward style than a hard push offs, fast pace leads and accurate deliveries.

[Tracca 850]

11 hours ago, A F said:

I really love how Lockhart's settled into this role, so maybe in time, Sparrow could play there too, along with the likes of Jordon too.

Im a fanboy for Lockhart but I think his position will be tenable this week..... he didnt have a great game and was sore afterwards. Rivers to break the lines maybe? 

 

Hopefully Lockhart can cement that back pocket type role as I think Jetta is sadly toast

[old dee 23,791]

Humans are a strange lot, in this  game We wore the clash jumper. 
not very long ago there would have been a whole tread complaint about the need for it.

2020 and not a word so obviously it is all ok now.

Thank God!