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Tom's right!  Many supporters seem to think that unless a player is elite, then they must be junk and fair game for abuse (not being relevant).  No team has won a premiership comprising only A grader'

I think the takeaway here is that TMac definitely should have taken the plates off and driven illegally in an unroadworthy car to show his loyalty to the Demons.

I’ve never heard this and find your statement that Tom said that incredibly hard to believe.

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Body is shot since the footy injury. He’s got the turning circle of the titanic. If it’s not a straight lead and chest mark in space, then he’s out of the contest. We took a big risk putting our stock in him being a dominant key forward. The gamble has not paid off.

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Up there with Chris Dawes and Ben Holland as one of the most slowest and useless footballer when the ball hits the ground.

Bite the bullet and trade him. He is cooked.

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Up there with Chris Dawes and Ben Holland as one of the most slowest and use footballer when the ball hits the ground.

Bite the bullet and trade him. He is cooked.

Cant trade him if he has no value. Definetly a delist. Funny thing is that he's one of the highest paid players in the game

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He has lost me. Slow as a dung beetle and can't handle the ball properly. We miss a player like Petty.

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Something is wrong, because two years ago he was one of the quickest endurance athletes around for his size.

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We’ll have to pay 600 of his 700k to move him I’d imagine. 
 

Could still be ok for a team that can move the ball but his lack of movement is awful. Always tries to take tacklers on and has this belief that he can go on his right foot and hit a target when there’s 4 tacklers in his way.

His best attribute of endurance is useless in shorter games and we so rarely switch it’s not like he’s getting the fat side leads anyway. 
 

Ahhhh Melbourne, where a bloke can kick 50+ goals, look like a top 5 key forwards in the comp, sign a big deal as never play well again 

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His first lead were he stuck out his foot instead of diving for it sold it for me. 

The only logical decision is to send him back into defence, remember when he was Rance like? I do.

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25 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Up there with Chris Dawes and Ben Holland as one of the most slowest and useless footballer when the ball hits the ground.

Bite the bullet and trade him. He is cooked.

Agreed. Slow and lacking any marking presence. Not a defender. Not a key forward. Trade to Suns and get a 2nd round pick. 

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5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agreed. Slow and lacking any marking presence. Not a defender. Not a key forward. Trade to Suns and get a 2nd round pick. 

I would. 

Can't see him ever improving again. Last week and against Hawthorn showed that Weideman Jackson combo can work with more games and experience together.

McDonald was a blimp.

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35 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Up there with Chris Dawes and Ben Holland as one of the most slowest and useless footballer when the ball hits the ground.

Bite the bullet and trade him. He is cooked.

Take his Brother with him absolute zero pressure tonight! Trade both of for ..... Whatever!! 5th Rounder??

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15 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

His first lead were he stuck out his foot instead of diving for it sold it for me. 

The only logical decision is to send him back into defence, remember when he was Rance like? I do.

Was a poor defender too. Could drift across and take a few marks when the 3rd defender...but extremely poor at winning or halving 50/50 contests. His spoiling intensity was not much stronger than his brothers.

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You guys are kidding if you think we would get a 2nd rounder for him. He wouldn’t make the best 22 in any other team. Lucky to get a pick in the 80s if a club is desperate for depth.

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18 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agreed. Slow and lacking any marking presence. Not a defender. Not a key forward. Trade to Suns and get a 2nd round pick. 

 

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I would. 

Can't see him ever improving again. Last week and against Hawthorn showed that Weideman Jackson combo can work with more games and experience together.

McDonald was a blimp.

Wouldn't get anything for him now...he's done.

Any talk of going back to defence, forget about it. Hasn't got the mobility.

Totally put the balance out in the forward line and took Weids space.

Weid & Jackson for now on for sure 'dazz'

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Sad to say it but I think you can stick a fork in him and say he's done, he looked incredibly slow tonight. That pass from Salem still should've hit him but those first few steps were snail pace and he just seemed to have to ability to get to contests.

Our forward line has functioned better without him the last two weeks, I think that's a bad sign for him.

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he doesn't belong in our forward line anymore - we must build around weideman, jackson, pickett with the likes of bennell, avb, melksham, hannan offering flank support

he doesn't belong in our backline - we have invested heavily in may and lever, o mac is faster that t mac, hibberd's season has shown that he belongs at this level again, salem is our best ball user playing wing / half-back, and lockhart has already taken over from jetta

he doesn't belong in the midfield - far too slow and cumbersome to play wing, can't bend over to pick up the ball, and can't jump in the ruck

two more years to go of a pretty hefty contract...

 

 

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Very disappointing last night but the greatest forward in the game would look bad with the ball coming in like that. And it's been coming in like that for a long long time. 

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He’s done. It’s sad because he was obviously a good player, but he has added size and looks like an absolute lump out there.

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42 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

He’s done. It’s sad because he was obviously a good player, but he has added size and looks like an absolute lump out there.

This is the thing, for a guy with super aerobic ability he looks overweight to me.

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