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  On 07/07/2020 at 10:29, Pates said:

Don't disagree with the outs, I just wonder if we will bring Jones in given he didn't play in the scratch match due to soreness. 

Pig's return to form has been one of the few lights (along with Petracca), I'd be looking at dropping Lockhart and bringing back Jetta.

As a different thought (and throwing the magnets around a bit) we could bring back Oscar (cue collective groan from D-Land) and shift Smith into a forward role allowing us to stay with the three you've dropped, along with Lockhart for Jetta.

To sum up my Ins and Outs would be:
IN: Weid, Bennell, Omac, Jetta
Out: Melksham, Hunt, AvB, Lockhart

It would look something like this:

B:      Jetta                O McDonald               Hibberd

HB:   Lever                May                             Salem

?    Langdon         Viney                          Tomlinson

HF:     Hannan           T McDonald             Bennell

F:        Pickett            Weideman                Fritsch

R:       Gawn              Harmes                        Petracca

Int:     Brayshaw      Rivers           Smith                 Oliver

This.

please forward to Goodwin + MFC

I like it and it's exactly what we need.

Smith lucky to hold his spot, but dear lord please don't play him back 

 

 
  On 08/07/2020 at 02:43, Luther said:

It's true that he's more slight than a lot of players of his height, but he has an additional 5cm and 8kg on Joel Smith, who hovers in that no mans land of being undersized for a key defence slot and not agile enough to lockdown the smalls.

I think at least trying Brown at CHB will straighten us up plenty and hopefully allow Lever to play his natural game, while May handles the number one forward. 

The fact that he can go forward when required and if match ups allow, would be a huge bonus IMO. At the moment we just don't have enough talls in the side to even think about swinging one back or forward.

Good comments and I agree at the back of my mind. There is some potential there - a given 'swing' role offers much to players like Browne.

All I want to see are a few changes.  I'm a fan of the continuity aspect, but I think we are carrying a few and we need to give some others a crack.

We need an extra tall forward, and we need to freshen things up inside 50.

I'd be giving one of Weid/Brown/Jackson a crack, and I'd also look at Bennell and ANB to slot in there somewhere.  So, for me it would be:

In:  Weid/Brown/Jackson, Bennell, ANB

Out:  AVB, Hunt, Melksham

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      On 07/07/2020 at 03:58, titan_uranus said:

    He's also been talked up on Demonland as a capable forward.

    In both instances, he has weeks where he looks good and weeks where he goes completely missing.

    His main issue is consistency and I don't think it matters whether it's back or forward. Personally, if we've spent the past two years working on him as a forward, he should stay a forward, but should only be playing AFL if he's capable of contributing on a weekly basis (same goes for everyone else of course, including Melksham).

    Hunt can trick the brain ( mine at least) .  All it takes is several ball-bouncing runs along the wing and one can go home thinking " this lad is a future star " . Next day , reading his full stats -  reality hits . The last two rounds he has had five and four disposals respectively .

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    I've said it a number of times we need 3 tall forwards, with one being a mobile lead up forward to provide and outlet or create space out the back. 

    In: Weid, Brown, Bennell

    Out: hunt, avb, Melksham

     

    I don't think we will change the backline.... Yet. 

     

    Viney, Brayshaw and Oliver put on notice. 

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    It would be a tough gig being an MFC selector specially as they have managed to get it wrong so many times. in the last few seasons I think we have lost the game on Thursday evening when the team is announced. This season we seem to be going to extremes to highlight just how bad we are at selecting a side.

    One out tall forward with a game plan and skills that do not support such a structure. In no one's mind has this looked like working or even looked to have the potential to work. Part of this problem is the form of TMac and the other part of the problem is, as mentioned, the mythical game plan and lack of skill to deliver the ball properly into the forward 50.

    The MFC really needs to get back to the basics in selection to have a proper base line to work from.

    To my mind this means the following:

    Three key defenders - May Lever and OMac

    Three inside mids - Petracca. Oliver and Harmes

    Three key Forwards - TMac, Weideman and Pickett

    Ruck - Gawn

    Fill in the spaces around these keys.

    Backs: Lever, May, Jetta

    Half Backs: Hibberd, OMac, Hunt

    Center: Langdon, Oliver, Tomlinson

    Half Forward: Jones, TMac, Fristch

    Forwards: Pickett, Wiedeman, Melksham

    Ruck: Gawn, Petracca, Harmes

    I/C: Viney, Brayshaw, Bennell, ANB

     

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      On 07/07/2020 at 10:29, Pates said:

    Don't disagree with the outs, I just wonder if we will bring Jones in given he didn't play in the scratch match due to soreness. 

    Pig's return to form has been one of the few lights (along with Petracca), I'd be looking at dropping Lockhart and bringing back Jetta.

    As a different thought (and throwing the magnets around a bit) we could bring back Oscar (cue collective groan from D-Land) and shift Smith into a forward role allowing us to stay with the three you've dropped, along with Lockhart for Jetta.

    To sum up my Ins and Outs would be:
    IN: Weid, Bennell, Omac, Jetta
    Out: Melksham, Hunt, AvB, Lockhart

    It would look something like this:

    B:      Jetta                O McDonald               Hibberd

    HB:   Lever                May                             Salem

    ?    Langdon         Viney                          Tomlinson

    HF:     Hannan           T McDonald             Bennell

    F:        Pickett            Weideman                Fritsch

    R:       Gawn              Harmes                        Petracca

    Int:     Brayshaw      Rivers           Smith                 Oliver

    I like this but the main aim here is to convert F50 entries. The center line of Langdon Viney Tomlinson can't be trusted to kick inside 50. Make the center line Salem Petracca Melksham. Deadly kicks into 50.

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    Langdon and Tomlinson seem to have some new draftee immunity??? Who are these guys? Blasting away not connecting inside 50. Dropped!

     

    Goody needs to pick the most dangerous sharp-shooting team he has. Build it again out of sweet kickers and x-factor forwards...

    FF: Smith Weed Kozzy

    HF: Hannan Fritsch Bennell

    ? Salem Petracca Melksham

    HB: Hunt Lever Hibberd

    FB: Jetta May Rivers

    R: Gawn Oliver Bray

    Int: Viney Jones Van Harmes

     

     

     

     

     
      On 08/07/2020 at 12:24, Pitchy said:

    Langdon and Tomlinson seem to have some new draftee immunity??? Who are these guys? Blasting away not connecting inside 50. Dropped!

     

    Goody needs to pick the most dangerous sharp-shooting team he has. Build it again out of sweet kickers and x-factor forwards...

    FF: Smith Weed Kozzy

    HF: Hannan Fritsch Bennell

    ? Salem Petracca Melksham

    HB: Hunt Lever Hibberd

    FB: Jetta May Rivers

    R: Gawn Oliver Bray

    Int: Viney Jones Van Harmes

    I'm curious to know, since you're dropping Tommo and Langdon, what exactly has Hunt done in the last two weeks to warrant selection?

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      On 08/07/2020 at 12:52, Pates said:

    I'm curious to know, since you're dropping Tommo and Langdon, what exactly has Hunt done in the last two weeks to warrant selection?

    Hunt and vdberg surely cannot stay in.  Weid and Bennell are surely replacements with Jones and Jetta possibles.  Melksham definitely on notice!! 

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      On 08/07/2020 at 11:30, CHF said:

    It would be a tough gig being an MFC selector specially as they have managed to get it wrong so many times. in the last few seasons I think we have lost the game on Thursday evening when the team is announced. This season we seem to be going to extremes to highlight just how bad we are at selecting a side.

    One out tall forward with a game plan and skills that do not support such a structure. In no one's mind has this looked like working or even looked to have the potential to work. Part of this problem is the form of TMac and the other part of the problem is, as mentioned, the mythical game plan and lack of skill to deliver the ball properly into the forward 50.

    The MFC really needs to get back to the basics in selection to have a proper base line to work from.

    To my mind this means the following:

    Three key defenders - May Lever and OMac

    Three inside mids - Petracca. Oliver and Harmes

    Three key Forwards - TMac, Weideman and Pickett

    Ruck - Gawn

    Fill in the spaces around these keys.

    Backs: Lever, May, Jetta

    Half Backs: Hibberd, OMac, Hunt

    Center: Langdon, Oliver, Tomlinson

    Half Forward: Jones, TMac, Fristch

    Forwards: Pickett, Wiedeman, Melksham

    Ruck: Gawn, Petracca, Harmes

    I/C: Viney, Brayshaw, Bennell, ANB

     

    Agree with all this except Hunt over Salem. Hunt has done nothing the last fortnight, far to irregular a performer for me and across half back he runs himself into trouble and is prone to turnovers via his kicking.

      On 08/07/2020 at 12:52, Pates said:

    I'm curious to know, since you're dropping Tommo and Langdon, what exactly has Hunt done in the last two weeks to warrant selection?

    Unfortunately Tommo jibbed a few contests last week and was very soft on a few tackles, that ended up costly. That won't go unnoticed and I would expect he is spoken to during the week.

    Where did Hunt play his best footy? Has he been played there at all lately? I would rather Hunt than AVB and atm Melksham, who has been abysmal.

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      On 08/07/2020 at 13:17, Redleg said:

    Unfortunately Tommo jibbed a few contests last week and was very soft on a few tackles, that ended up costly. That won't go unnoticed and I would expect he is spoken to during the week.

    Where did Hunt play his best footy? Has he been played there at all lately? I would rather Hunt than AVB and atm Melksham, who has been abysmal.

    I would rather anyone than melksham. And that is frustrating because he is od the most talented players in the team.  And he should be a leader. But is playing selfish football. 

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    It’s nice to see so many have picked themselves up from the floor (where I imagine most of our comments on the “Closer To The End” thread were typed from), and resumed some of the regular muses and suggestions that allude to some kind of future. 
     

    You must go on. I can’t go on. I’ll go on - Samuel Beckett (probably a Dees supporter). 
     

     

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      On 08/07/2020 at 14:47, binman said:

    I would rather anyone than melksham. And that is frustrating because he is od the most talented players in the team.  And he should be a leader. But is playing selfish football. 

    Could not agree anymore if I tried. 

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      On 08/07/2020 at 14:48, Mel Bourne said:

    It’s nice to see so many have picked themselves up from the floor (where I imagine most of our comments on the “Closer To The End” thread were typed from), and resumed some of the regular muses and suggestions that allude to some kind of future. 
     

    You must go on. I can’t go on. I’ll go on - Samuel Beckett (probably a Dees supporter). 
     

     

    Life goes on is a redundancy. Life is defined by its going on.     

    David Levithan

      On 08/07/2020 at 13:16, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Agree with all this except Hunt over Salem. Hunt has done nothing the last fortnight, far to irregular a performer for me and across half back he runs himself into trouble and is prone to turnovers via his kicking.

    Yeah. Thought long about that position. For me it all gets back to playing players in positions they have excelled in in a structure that allowed them to excel. Was a toss up for me between ANB and Salem on the bench. Would not mind either  

      On 07/07/2020 at 07:59, DemonOX said:

    If that is the case then Goody truely has NFI. 

    Except that the team is selected by a committee.

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      On 08/07/2020 at 12:52, Pates said:

    I'm curious to know, since you're dropping Tommo and Langdon, what exactly has Hunt done in the last two weeks to warrant selection?

    Hunt hasn't done much as a forward. But I believe that he and TMac are career defenders. Play them in position, then I'll judge their form. Sure they can swing a little but they aren't suited forward.

      On 08/07/2020 at 11:30, CHF said:

    It would be a tough gig being an MFC selector specially as they have managed to get it wrong so many times. in the last few seasons I think we have lost the game on Thursday evening when the team is announced. This season we seem to be going to extremes to highlight just how bad we are at selecting a side.

    One out tall forward with a game plan and skills that do not support such a structure. In no one's mind has this looked like working or even looked to have the potential to work. Part of this problem is the form of TMac and the other part of the problem is, as mentioned, the mythical game plan and lack of skill to deliver the ball properly into the forward 50.

    The MFC really needs to get back to the basics in selection to have a proper base line to work from.

    To my mind this means the following:

    Three key defenders - May Lever and OMac

    Three inside mids - Petracca. Oliver and Harmes

    Three key Forwards - TMac, Weideman and Pickett

    It would be great if we had blokes picking themselves with their performance.

    At present, almost every position on the ground could be debated and reasonably argued.

    Trac, Max, May and maybe Hibberd are my only guaranteed starters. Hibberd is only based on last week's game too. Every other spot is a raffle


    Come on Goody

    We all make errors, but time to get this one right and follow the concensus view

    And just name a team, none of this squad rubbish

    Finally please do not fire up the mids in a way where to make amends they go pack ball hunting.

      On 08/07/2020 at 21:25, bing181 said:

    Except that the team is selected by a committee.

    I am sure the head coach would have a very big say bing. 

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      On 08/07/2020 at 23:17, Half forward flank said:

    Come on Goody

    We all make errors, but time to get this one right and follow the concensus view

    And just name a team, none of this squad rubbish

    Finally please do not fire up the mids in a way where to make amends they go pack ball hunting.

    You know that the AFL requires teams playing on a Sunday to name an extended squad don't you? It's not an MFC decision.

     
      On 08/07/2020 at 23:34, titan_uranus said:

    You know that the AFL requires teams playing on a Sunday to name an extended squad don't you? It's not an MFC decision.

    Fair enough, obviously I would not have said it if I had known,  but that doesnt make it any less stupid. 

    At least this week we will get the actual team rather than an extended squad

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