15 hours ago, inanunda said:

I am pumped to see the club take chances, admit fault, bring in a fresh perspective and potentially get us back to finals in 2020.  There is no way in hell you would cop the level of criticism and negativity in your role as this club does.  Sometime it feels like a whingefest and sooky la-la session and it's time to look at the glass half full.  Because I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that not if but when we rise back up the ladder all you backstabbers will the first one to start back-patting like the tweed coated MCC do!

How dare anyone invest their time and effort and money supporting the club over many years, and then be disappointed when the team fails to perform at an acceptable standard. Clearly the club would be better off if these people stopped caring and spent their weekends pottering around in the garden instead of worrying about a football team.

The apparent  arrogance  and  smugness of this poster is gobsmacking 

he  are entitled  as anyone to his  view  as are we all on Demonland 

We absolutely need a diversity of opinion and viewpoint. 

 

10 minutes ago, inanunda said:

What I wanted to point out is that no matter what this club does there seems to be a mentality of if it bleeds it leads within the forum.  I know the club has made errors on and off the field for a very long time but constantly bringing it up doesn't help anyone.  I can already see that no matter who we draft next week the knives will be out instead of celebrating the exciting additions to the MFC.

...but it's ok.

Everyone has differing opinions, we're not all the same.

That's what the forum is for, it's to express those opinions.

Sometimes I think it's like the old days at the pub sitting around with a beer and having a good old argument with your mate about footy.

I like the disagreements, arguments, discussions I have on here with people like 'macca', 'bin', 'wise', 'old', 'lucifer' and the like...

I learn a lot from their points of view even if I don't always agree.

It would be boring if we agreed all the time.

43 minutes ago, inanunda said:

What I wanted to point out is that no matter what this club does there seems to be a mentality of if it bleeds it leads within the forum.  I know the club has made errors on and off the field for a very long time but constantly bringing it up doesn't help anyone.  I can already see that no matter who we draft next week the knives will be out instead of celebrating the exciting additions to the MFC.

It’s all a bit obvious though, isn’t it?

Some people are positive, some people are negative. Boo to the latter?

I’m struggling to find anything of substance here. 

Edited November 21, 20195 yr by Mel Bourne

You could have just said “the dude from the dolphins” and you’d have won me over.

14 hours ago, sue said:

Maybe that is a truism.   But is there any evidence that the MFC can't cop criticism?

To be fair, I’m probably reacting more to the sanctimonious outrage by some posters when another poster dares post an opinion which is critical of the MFC

The changes over the off season look promising and I am pleased with the trades so far. Still this is Melbourne and a cynical outlook is kind of a default position for many after 55 years of mostly mediocrity and no success. We have all been here before many times and let down bad. 
On the other hand some here are like cult members who believe the world will end on a certain date soon and all the true believers will go to heaven as long as they maintain faith. When it doesn’t happen it’s because they believe too many had not enough faith and foiled salvation for the true believers. 

Edited November 21, 20195 yr by america de cali

MFC and the Aints are the longest without Premiership glory. Other fans give their clubs more hate than we ever do and they haven't been between premierships for half as long as us. We don't spit on our players for one but nor should we go that far.

I think what everyone here can agree on is we want more mongrel, we want the other clubs to hate us because they fear us. 

6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

To be fair, I’m probably reacting more to the sanctimonious outrage by some posters when another poster dares post an opinion which is critical of the MFC

That's comparable to the outrage posted by some when someone else dares to post an opinion 'excusing' the MFC in some way. 

There seems to be a spectrum between those who always find the worst at one end and those who have  rose-coloured glasses at the other.  I think the former are far more common than the latter (which probably reflects the lack of success our club has had since I was a lad).  But I suspect (or hope) most of us are in the middle with a tendency to look for the good rather than the bad if for no other reason than to preserve our sanity.

Football fans criticising their football club , we should fold.

33 minutes ago, sue said:

That's comparable to the outrage posted by some when someone else dares to post an opinion 'excusing' the MFC in some way. 

There seems to be a spectrum between those who always find the worst at one end and those who have  rose-coloured glasses at the other.  I think the former are far more common than the latter (which probably reflects the lack of success our club has had since I was a lad).  But I suspect (or hope) most of us are in the middle with a tendency to look for the good rather than the bad if for no other reason than to preserve our sanity.

Very important maintaining Sanity Sue. After all it is only a game isn't it?

Edited November 21, 20195 yr by old dee

17 hours ago, inanunda said:

I would hate to be someone from the MFC reading this forum and what has been spoken about since the end of the season.  

For far too long we have been accused of being a club that sits on it's hands, does nothing aggressive during trade time and gets bent over at the trade table.

Yet since the end of the 2019 '[censored]' season, the club has brought in Richardson, Burgess, Brukner, the dude from the Dolphins, outside run in Tomlinson and Langdon, took a risk on Bennell, invited a semi-proven forward in Mitch Brown to the club, shifted their position in this years' draft considerably for the positive and yet, you STILL have the nerve to bag the club for what they are not doing. Bloody hell!

I am pumped to see the club take chances, admit fault, bring in a fresh perspective and potentially get us back to finals in 2020.  There is no way in hell you would cop the level of criticism and negativity in your role as this club does.  Sometime it feels like a whingefest and sooky la-la session and it's time to look at the glass half full.  Because I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that not if but when we rise back up the ladder all you backstabbers will the first one to start back-patting like the tweed coated MCC do!

This post is nuffies of AFL territory.   

Taking steps to rectify the mistakes of 2019 is hygiene - it's the very minimum the club SHOULD do.

Until they deliver a premiership (55 years and counting) we've got every right to cast a critical eye over what actions the club are taking.

 

Edited November 21, 20195 yr by deegirl
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1 hour ago, Youngwilliam said:

MFC and the Aints are the longest without Premiership glory. Other fans give their clubs more hate than we ever do and they haven't been between premierships for half as long as us. We don't spit on our players for one but nor should we go that far.

I think what everyone here can agree on is we want more mongrel, we want the other clubs to hate us because they fear us. 

I want to hated like Hawthorn over the next decade.

This all bodes well for season 2020; Demonland is reaching critical mass!

What a great thread

Hypocrisy everywhere

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself

This is the truth of a public internet forum

5 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

What a great thread

Hypocrisy everywhere

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself

This is the truth of a public internet forum

I love my cat but it urinates on the floor and I get annoyed at it....but the mess gets cleaned up and we're all good again. 

It's a bit similar to following Melbourne really. 

5 hours ago, poita said:

spent their weekends pottering around in the garden instead of worrying about a football team.

You should try it poita, it's good for both your health and the garden.    

12 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

What a great thread

Hypocrisy everywhere

It's a forum and you can express an opinion, yeah right, absolute bollocks

You can express an opinion and as long as it agrees with a small noisy minority on here you won't get trolled or abused from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

But you can post unfounded rumour as if it was a proven fact

You can also put the same sentiment expressed  in different ways in every thread to bore the [censored] of everybody

You can also disparage any person remotely connected with the MFC, again from behind the anonymity of a keyboard

You will never have the ability to laugh at yourself

This is the truth of a public internet forum

I thought we'd all moved on from Gaff.

Not a lot of difference between posts 1 and 14. We are a Footy Club and i just love it....

#66

Wow....

3 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I thought we'd all moved on from Gaff.

Brilliant   11 out of 10????

very hard to take any positives out of 2019.  Still think the club is the least proactive vic club in the afl. 

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

#66

Wow....

Appreciate the name check did you