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List changes who do we cut, trade or go after.

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26 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

Different trade scenario:

In/Out

Ollie Wines, Pick 9, Pick 27/Salem, Pick 3, pick 57

Langdon/pick 20 

pick 28 (32 after PP/Academy)/Frost

Pick 38

F3rd/Stretch

Free Agency: Adam Tomlinson, Jack Newnes and Ryan Lester (utility)

Retire/Delist: Lewis, Garlett, JKH, Wagner

If we are splitting pick 3 I want a really solid talent coming in...or be interested in what Geelong has after Tim Kelly leaves and see who has the most enticing offer for trading down. Shouldn't be trading down just for the sake of it. 

We don't need another inside mid, but he can play switch with Harmes/Petracca/Oliver resting forward so we have the right balance in the middle. Port are crazy to be looking at trading him out, or there is something there that isn't public knowledge.

Don't think we will win Elliott, think Hawks or Bulldogs etc will win his signature.  

Getting rid of Salem who is one of our very rare good ball users (all though that dropped off like the rest of the team as the year went on) is counter productive and pretty silly suggestion.

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    1 minute ago, Demon3 said:

    Getting rid of Salem who is one of our very rare good ball users (all though that dropped off like the rest of the team as the year went on) is counter productive and pretty silly suggestion.

    Won't happen.

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    1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

    Getting rid of Salem who is one of our very rare good ball users (all though that dropped off like the rest of the team as the year went on) is counter productive and pretty silly suggestion.

    While ordinarily I would agree with you. He is a quick and skillful midfielder/wing that we are playing off half back. Either play him in his best position or trade him out and upgrade talent of the list. We don't need Ollie Wines but I rate him higher than an underutilised Salem. Big club mentality is not to overrate your own players and take advantage of unexpected opportunities when they arise. 

    My preferred option would be to trade back what would be 3+37 to possible Geelong picks: 6 + 16. Would also look at Hunt + Salem for Wines and then trade back pick 3 for 6 + 16. Need to give something to get something. 

    If the coaching staff surprise me and allow Salem to have a bigger role as a mid who rests in the backline then I wouldn't trade him.   

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    3 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

    While ordinarily I would agree with you. He is a quick and skillful midfielder/wing that we are playing off half back. Either play him in his best position or trade him out and upgrade talent of the list. We don't need Ollie Wines but I rate him higher than an underutilised Salem. Big club mentality is not to overrate your own players and take advantage of unexpected opportunities when they arise. 

    My preferred option would be to trade back what would be 3+37 to possible Geelong picks: 6 + 16. Would also look at Hunt + Salem for Wines and then trade back pick 3 for 6 + 16. Need to give something to get something. 

    If the coaching staff surprise me and allow Salem to have a bigger role as a mid who rests in the backline then I wouldn't trade him.   

    I just dont think Wines is the player we need, not saying it would be a bad result if he ended up in the side as he is good player, but  i dont think he as a captain leaves.

    Hunt & Salem are trading away 2 things we dont have, pace and skill, but i like the spit balling. 

    Interesting times. I wonder if we might get involved wit the Eagles if we split the pick. Could our pick 18/19 go to the Eagles for a player back, which gets the Eagles another first rounder for the Kelly trade.... probably not!!

     

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    17 hours ago, Redleg said:

    I pushed Jeremy Finlayson heavily throughout the trade period last year, when rumours surfaced that he was unhappy at the Giants.

    I was very disappointed at the time that we didn't get him and more so this season as he blossomed.

    This year I like McIntosh of the Tigers, who may leave, especially if not selected for the GF, which is looking likely.

    He has height, pace, experience and especially finals experience, good disposal, can mark and kick a goal.

    He could be handy off a HBF, HFF or wing and wouldn't be expensive.

    I think Jetta and Hibberd are nearing the end of their careers and he could be a handy player for us.

    That's all well and good. But his name is Kamdyn.

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    6 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

    Won't happen.

    I don't know. They got rid our best kick and left the cupboard bare. 

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    5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    https://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-09-25/young-demons-deals-announced

    New deals for a few dees

    Strange timelines in that article. Really unclear when each player actually signed.

    I shouldn't be surprised as it seem like our comms department is run by an x cold war spy intent on subterfuge, dissembling and misinformation. 

    They also buried the lead - ANB has signed on for another two years!

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    I am a amazed we have signed Josh Wagner to another year... talk about ypur genuine list clogger.

    How many available spots do we have left on our list?

    Edited by dazzledavey36

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    why oh why are we keeping the likes of wagner on the list?

    tigers add the likes of sydney stack post-draft...i'd much rather take a chance on someone like that than back in the likes of these guys to 'contribute'

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    16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    New deals for a few dees

    Without doubt, all these re-signings will be met with enthusiastic cheers from everyone on here.

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    27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I am a amazed we have signed Josh Wagner to another year...

    How many available spots do we have left on our list?

    Four:  Lewis, Garlett, Maynard plus 1(only 39 senior listed players in 2019 so one 'extra' to fill this year).  Plus Threel Rookie spots.

    Players OOC still uncontracted:  Frost, JKH, Stretch and Bradtke (B rookie). 

    Really disappointed for Stretch to see both Wagners and ANB contracted and he has to wait/misses out.

    Very pleased we have kept Baker, Dunkley, Lockhart and Chandler.

     

    Edit:  Contract negotiations will be interesting next year as we will have half our list OOC in 2020.  18 Senior Listed players and 4 Rookies.  Importantly, a very uncertain time for a lot of players.

    Edited by Lucifer's Hero

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    1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Four:  Lewis, Garlett, Maynard and had only 39 senior listed players in 2019 so one 'extra' to fill this year.

    Players OOC still uncontracted:  Frost, JKH, Stretch.

    Really disappointed for Stretch to see both Wagners and ANB contracted and he has to wait/misses out.

    Very pleased we have kept Sparrow, Dunkley, Lockhart and Chandler.

    Agree.

    Signing Josh Wagner to a new deal but telling Stretch he has to wait.. Stretch is far better player then Wagner. Wagner should have sat right next to Keilty and Garlett as delisted players.

    On ya Mahoney..

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    I have a similar feeling to when the Marsh brothers get picked for Australia upon Hearing the Wagners have been re-signed

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    11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Agree.

    Signing Josh Wagner to a new deal but telling Stretch he has to wait.. Stretch is far better player then Wagner. Wagner should have sat right next to Keilty and Garlett as delisted players.

    On ya Mahoney..

    I’d take Wagner over Stretch.  

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    Thought we had 38 +6 rookies = 44, we can have 40 + 4 =44

    Lewis and Garlett gone = 36 (4 rookies are Wagner, Huntley, Lochardt, Chandler) if Frost JKH and Stretch go = possible 7 senior vacancies..

    Langdon, Elliott, Thomlinson and ???? (GWS Caldwell) and three draft picks 12, 26, 38,!!!

     

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    State of the list:

    • We have 4 senior list spots atm.  Frost, Stretch and JKH still uncontracted. 

               That is a potential max of 7 spots available.

    • We are obliged to take at least 3 from the draft.  It looks like Langdon and Tomlinson are over the line. 

                That leaves a max of 2 spots. 

    • Elliot might be one. 

                Leaving 1 spot. 

    • Someone from GWS pick 2 split, perhaps?

    I still wouldn't be surprised if we trade out a contracted player...

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    51 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I am a amazed we have signed Josh Wagner to another year... talk about ypur genuine list clogger.

    How many available spots do we have left on our list?

    That has to go down as one of the worst extensions ever imv given what we need right now.

    Keep JWags & O-Mac but lets not try too hard to keep Frosty ?

    Edited by Rusty Nails

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    5 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    That has to go down as one of the worst extensions ever imv given what we need right now.

    Keep JWags & O-Mac but lets not try too hard to keep Frosty ?

    Looks like our poor form has extended into the trade & drafting season.

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    Cant believe wagner gets another contract, at least it looks like JKH finally gets the chop. Dissapointing that frost hasnt been re-signed.

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