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BigMacjnr

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  1. What hasn't had a lot of mention to date is that Shane McAdam averaged 5.3 score involvements, which would rank only behind Kozi and Fritsch from our forwards who each averaged 5.9 score involvements. Having forwards who can not only kick goals but create scoring opportunities seems to be the key here to help with that forward-half connection issue. This would be a similar reason it would be good to pick up Jack Billings on the cheap this year as depth (st kilda paying most of his salary). He is a high score involvement player. Could do much worse and would help
  2. Basically values Petty as Future 2nd and McAdam to us. Every other club says yes because Melbourne loses out so badly in this deal. Thilthorpe, pick 10 and McAdams to be in the conversation for Petty.
  3. The draft talk buzz from Cal Twoomey was that Curtain was slipping down the order and now expected to be available at Melbourne's pick. The draft is also meant to become much weaker from pick 15 onwards (including academy players) so pick 11 is one of the last truely valuable picks for a higher likelihood of a good player in this draft. Given this, it would seem unlikely that North could beat our offer unless they can trade their later picks to move up to pick 7. If WCE can get the same player at 2 as they could get at 6, then this is perceptually not a huge difference in value. The secondary element is that North's later 1sts are all in the speculative picks range of the draft so I don't see them moving the needle if you were WCE. So North would either need to go for picks 2 and 3 or 2/3 with their first next year to be in the conversation. I would say the Dees are in the box seat and that is the reason why we paid so much for pick 11, because we called North's bluff and now they are stuck with a tonne of 1st round picks which are more like second round picks in other drafts due to how far the slide is in this 'weaker' draft.
  4. Which considering what B - grade kpp are being paid in the AFL is a value contract for depth. Dees could just as easily pay out either or both of BBB and/or TMac, so I am sure this is a fluid situation depending on draft-trade period
  5. I know there is significant baggage and NQR about Tarryn Thomas, but North were open a month ago to the possibility of trading him...would pick 13 be enough to get him across? He is the forward/mid that could switch with Tracc. He is a beautiful kick, fast, can apply pressure, good forward craft. He is also a player who with a full pre-season and the right influences around him could be in the true elite in the competition. Hoyne had him as one of the best 6 rated players over the last month of the season. If there are no key forwards on the market and the key backs are overpriced, would be good to buy low on this bloke before he explodes. Would give us a midfield boost and a different type we have been missing, still get another good player with pick 5 to further boost our stocks. Especially is we can't get our hands on the GCS pick, then we should be trying to maximise our premiership window by bringing in skilled players who are upgrades on their incumbents to our 22.
  6. Thanks for the breakdown. Wow, even more reason to go after the GCS pick 4. People say the Swans pick 11 shouldn't be in the conversation for Grundy but the first round might go up until pick 25 this year. Swans pick 11 I have as pick 18 based on bids and this additional North pick...wow, give them Grundy pick 24 and 32 and call it a day. Picks 11 and 13 and a future 2nd to GCS for pick 5 that will become pick 6 or 7 after bids on Walter and possibly Read.
  7. Found this from Rookie Me Central: “Q: Surely Ashton Moir makes this list (top 25 I believe at the time) A: As any keen draft watcher would know, Moir came into the year touted as a top five prospect but hasn’t quite gotten going as a top-ager. He battled through injury early in the year and struggled to regain his confidence, underperforming throughout the National Championships. However, Moir is beginning to show positive signs with Glenelg and has returned to the Reserves grade, so hopefully a League debut is just around the corner. There are so many top traits to work with and great potential to enhance, but also glaring areas of improvement that have seen Moir fall down the order. He could end up being a second or third round bargain given his upside. Happy to be proven wrong.“
  8. What I feel for Tommo is the same of how I feel about Grundy. I would prefer both to be playing but if Goody and the coaching staff refuse to play them unless there are several key injuries...they are far too good and are paid too well be be backups. We may as well be either trading in or developing players who will be getting more of a shot. This is a pretty good draft as any for key position players and rucks. We would only trade for a pick in the 30s if we had a deal that could bundle our picks up to get Gold Coast's or one of the WB's picks etc. If what some have suggested is accurate, with the salary opening we might have this year we could possibly bring in Nick Haynes from GWS for a pick like 39 or later due to him being on a backended contract, smooth this out ala Geelong with Bowes and have a 3rd tall that Goody might actually play for once now he likes Petty as a forward. Maybe we can weasel Moyle from Gold Coast as part of the picks package to get pick 4?
  9. Just want to set the record straight they we paid the equivalent of pick 14 in draft pick points to trade up to pick 27 from Port Adelaide, to give this to the Pies. If Grundy does go to Port Adelaide, they of all teams know how much we gave up to get Grundy, and that was with unknown recovery from injury. I think the trade should be a future first with maybe a future third going back but definitely play hard ball.
  10. Any way we can get pick 39 for Tomlinson if they are so desperate for a tall defender? He would be a fantastic defender for them and fit their defenders much better than his fit with Lever and May. Surely that would be better for all involved then spending 800k+ for Mckay.
  11. Sydney are really desparate for a tall defender. Thank goodness North look set for pick 1 as I doubt AFL will allow WCE to lose access to pick 2 and Curtin, which will most likely be North's preference. Ideally they get mid-first round compensation and have to match a bid on Sanders...that would be the ideal result at this stage I think. Players that gold coast pre-listed weren't ranked in the top 10 in their draft year so really an apples to oranges situation.
  12. Latest article on it says AFL are talking about salary dump meaning you can only smooth out 20% of the salary. I like the trade as Haynes would be an upgrade on 3rd tall defender with Petty forward and give our younger developing defenders time to develop while we compete for premierships
  13. Need to pick players who can work their way into our starting 22 in the next 2 years and push us to more premierships in the next 6 years to maximise Petracca and Oliver as well as Max, May, Viney, Lever, Brayshaw, Salem etc. If that is a Tassie player...give me 1+ more premierships and I will help drive you to the airport (with decent compensation of course).
  14. Lord Travis, what is the farm? Would you do picks 4, 18, 23, F1st? Would you do 4, 18 and JvR as that past WCE player put up. Maybe 4 and trade for the GCS pick and offer up both? I personally would do the first although possibly overpaying, and the second I would do whatever I could to not give up JvR but maybe 4 and JvR if they put their foot down? You see a lot of the youngsters and this draft is heavily compromised, with few good mids.
  15. Yep got my years wrong. Good call. So correction on initial post: Taking learnings from 2022, Goody is looking to kickstart the offence like we did same time last year. Have to hope we put it all together and don't fall off a cliff like we did last year. Maybe they are thinking the formula worked last year they just didn't have a fit list? I need to look at avoiding certain media pendants after the weekend. Pies were outplayed for a vast majority of the match but someone else should get Cox's premiership medal this year...meanwhile the Dees didn't win, the Crows lost...
  16. Anyone else get shades of 2021 round 19 vs the Bulldogs with this game? Feels like Goody wanted to create a shootout to kick the offence into gear pre-finals. When it happened last week you take that as possibly a once off, when it happens again and happened in 2021 you take it as something planned, at least that is how I saw it. Can you talk a bit about Kozy's performance. Nice to hear Goody mention his forward half pressure hasn't wavered one bit but my goodness that was a special performance today!
  17. Possible we trade freo pick 4 back to WCE for sydney pick (barrass) which will probably be pick 7 and pick 19? Then trade 18, 22 and 36 for gold coast’s pick 5. Finish with 5, 7 and 19 (valuable first pick of second round). We obviously wouldn’t do this if Taylor and co were in love with the WA prospect Daniel Curtin.
  18. Is it possible to trade for Sebit Kuek from Freo as our bigger forward target? He was from the 2022 mid-season draft, 199cm, super athletic and kicking multiple goals in the WAFL. Freo forwardline are incredibly young - Jackson, Treacy and Amiss. Kuek is 22, and older than the three in the team...not sure how he breaks in as is.
  19. I think there is an in-between. Right now when a player is in contract they demand a trade and specify a club. Why can't they tweak the rules to say that when is a player is in contract and either agree to be traded or ask out, they can specify a state, they can even nominate a preferred club but the club can trade them to any team in that same state that gives them the best package. It is then up to the receiving club, if the player says they don't want to go there, to choose to go for it or pull out. The traded player can decide to not play for that new club, receive no salary and forgo the following year for 'tampering'. Clubs are looking for equalisation rules as players have too much power in the movement landscape. If they are breaking contract then clubs should have another option other than retention of a player who wants to leave or taking a lesser deal. In an example, GWS should have been able to trade Hopper and Taranto to any team in Victoria last year instead of the Tigers if they so chose. Mind you, the future first has turned out to be a massive win for GWS, they could have theoretically received a much better deal. The issues with the above is it would be unfair to Victorian clubs who have 9 other teams to compete with in packages as opposed to interstate teams...
  20. I don't think WCE are best placed asking for pure picks in return. They are in the dire list space that Melbourne was back in 2013 when we traded: Out: 2, 20, 72; in: Tyson, 9, 53 I wonder if we trade out: Fremantle pick ~ pick 9, Fremantle 2nd ~27, James Harmes, Adam Tomlinson and Bailey Laurie. Trade in: pick 1. If I were WCE I would need veterans who can play now and shield some of their youngsters coming through, high upside youngster and picks...they have a lot of dead wood on their roster. Then you bring in James Jordon. It may look like we are giving up fringe players, trash for treasure but Our 24-31 players are very strong and would be getting games at most other teams in the comp. AFL need to also step in and give them Gold Coast compensation with an extended rookie list and picks as they are where we were 10 years ago.
  21. I think a bit of an anomaly that the 7th worst last qtr team handedly outrun and outplayed the best 4th qtr team in the AFL this season. Lot of tired bodies out there and lines up well with Selwyn's designated loading period. Sometimes you need to put yourself at a disadvantaged situation for games for the chance to win it all and this seems to be one of those occasions. Main concern is Viney, was it the same shoulder? Hoping Oliver can come back in next week and possible look to manage Viney so he can heal. He is incredibly important to our finals chances but won't be very effective if he has a serious injury he is carrying each week from now on. I think even more than the missed shots at goal, I was disappointed at the lack of focus and concentration 80-50m from goal. There were a number of Geelong smoothers that where the Dees player telegraphed the handball/kick, and didn't have the same running zip and polish they had back earlier in the season. You could see the disappointment on the key forwards allowing easy marks to Geelong, some were from giving up front position but a lot were because of illegal holding and blocking from Geelong's defensive unit. Don't get me started on the holding of Petracca...
  22. I am not a draft expert, that said, It appears to me that this draft is excellent pool. I remember hearing in the past that if there are a mix of types, talls and mids throughout the draft that was a good sign. The other was that if VIC Metro and Country made up the bulk of the top selections then it was a weak draft. Early days with lots of junior footy to go, but with a strong Allies Team, strong SA team and a few high-end and other great prospects in WA, we have a really strong draft in terms of number of prospects that should go through. Gold Coast can't pre-list talent which is a plus, but there seems to be 3-6 potential father sons/academy prospects in the first round, three of which are for the Gold Coast Academy. The benefit being the Gold Coast have to actual bid on their academy players so they can't double dip like previous years.
  23. Yep, and adding the 'expected score' of 20 point difference, which when added to scoring shots gives a good indication of what the scoring should have been like. Actually surprised it was only 20 points.
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