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Carlton Sack Brendon Bolton

dazzledavey36
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The jungle drums are beating of the prospect that Bolton might get the chop.

While i have always felt that Bolton was the right man for the job coming from the Hawthorn environment, i am bewildered that the blow torch is not on their list manager SOS.

Right now they would be laughing with pick 1 in their pockets sewn up, but traded it during the draft period to adelaide who currently have pick 1 now.

Over the years SOS hes brought in VFL standard players to fill in list position. The names of Jarrod Pickett, Rhys Palmer, Alex Fasolo, Cam O' Shea, liam Sumner, Aaron Mullett, Andrew Phillips, Tom Bugg, Matt Shaw, Daniel Gorringe, Sam Kerridge, Billy Smedts, Kristian Jacksh, Hugh Goddard and Matt Kennedy are just some of the names that he has stockpiled with and that have been unsuccessful. 

With those names that he has bought in surely he has to come under the microscope?

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    Carlton spooked by North pulling the trigger on Scott. Don't want to be out of the race by holding on.

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    Oh goody. 

    A thread to shitcan Carlton to detract from our own abysmal situation. 

    Carry on. 

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    25 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Over the years SOS hes brought in VFL standard players to fill in list position. The names of Jarrod Pickett, Rhys Palmer, Alex Fasolo, Cam O' Shea, liam Sumner, Aaron Mullett, Andrew Phillips, Tom Bugg, Matt Shaw, Daniel Gorringe, Sam Kerridge, Billy Smedts, Kristian Jacksh, Hugh Goddard and Matt Kennedy are just some of the names that he has stockpiled with and that have been unsuccessful. 

    Not sure that those players are the issue and, other than Kerridge and Kennedy, I'm not sure they have given up much to get them. It would be like judging Jason Taylor based on the performances of C.Wagner, Bugg, Michie and Kolodjashnij.

    The bigger issue is the number of failed first round picks through 2008-2014, excluding Cripps of course. As with Melbourne's poor drafting throughout the 2000s (N.Jones aside), it takes 5 or 6 years for this to become noticeable as you have a shortfall of top talent in the mid 24-28 age bracket. Carlton have a proud history of picking the wrong types of players. Even guys like Murphy and Kreuzer are just average players who rarely influence games (when not injured).

    Bolton is an easy scapegoat, and removing him is cheaper than having a full clean out of the football department, but I'm not convinced he is the problem at Carlton.

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    We should take them over. They have some good kids, a good trading ground and club facilities.

    Just  pander to the Carltonites for five years by using the jumper every now and then.

    we will pick up 10% of their supporters and have a great facility in inner Melbourne.

    It would be way cheaper than all the hair brain schemes suggested to give us a home.

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    FWIW I can see Carlton getting a PP this year to compensate for their stupid trade. 

    Probably a end of first round so not too many teams kick up a fuss... 

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    I agree with you Dazzle. SOS has done some terrible work in his time at Carlton.

    He originally drafted a heap of these kids at GWS and when they identified that they were no good he doubled down and traded for them at Carlton. 

    The Stocker trade is looking to be the cherry on top of a long list of bad decisions.

    If Bolton goes then surely Silvangni goes too.

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    2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    It's a toss off up between Carlton and Essendon for my most hated team

    The AFL can send them both to Tassie ( or further south) for all I GAF. 

    Good idea Bbo we could then takeover their facalities at Princes Park

    Edited by old dee

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    2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    It's a toss off up between Carlton and Essendon for my most hated team

    The AFL can send them both to Tassie ( or further south) for all I GAF. 

    Not a contest for me Essendrug win by the length of the straight.

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    1 minute ago, old dee said:

    Good idea Bbo we could then takeover their facalities at Princess Park

    Getting rid of the empty paper bags and cigar butts would cost a bit though od. 

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    Who cares?

    Edited by Lucifer's Hero

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    The gap between us and finals is only slightly wider than the gap, for Carlton, between last and not-last.

    I was still speaking optimisitcally about Carlton's medium and longer term prospects early this season, on the understanding that their cluster of young agile midfielders could develop in a wave, with Cripps and now Walsh providing the star-level core.

    But that optimism has faded for me, and more importantly it looks like it has evaporated within the Blue's themselves.

    Carlton supporters will be shaking with anxiety about the prospect of losing any of that handful of stars that keep the flame flickering. For example, Charlie Curnow might decide that the reason for his stalling progress is the team he's playing in (and when you're out of form but have still kicked a third of your team's goals in the last two rounds, you could start to think that way). To have him leave in a meagre trade when he is at such a low point himself would be just devastating for Blues fans, especially when they can already spend each round counting how many more goals ex-Carlton players have kicked compared to the entire Cartlon team.

    Garlett 3, Betts 2, Robinson 1, Kennedy 3,   vs Carlton  4

    Charlie Curnow might be a handy acquisition on the cheap, come to think of it.

     

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    8 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    The gap between us and finals is only slightly wider than the gap, for Carlton, between last and not-last.

    I was still speaking optimisitcally about Carlton's medium and longer term prospects early this season, on the understanding that their cluster of young agile midfielders could develop in a wave, with Cripps and now Walsh providing the star-level core.

    But that optimism has faded for me, and more importantly it looks like it has evaporated within the Blue's themselves.

    Carlton supporters will be shaking with anxiety about the prospect of losing any of that handful of stars that keep the flame flickering. For example, Charlie Curnow might decide that the reason for his stalling progress is the team he's playing in (and when you're out of form but have still kicked a third of your team's goals in the last two rounds, you could start to think that way). To have him leave in a meagre trade when he is at such a low point himself would be just devastating for Blues fans, especially when they can already spend each round counting how many more goals ex-Carlton players have kicked compared to the entire Cartlon team.

    Garlett 3, Betts 2, Robinson 1, Kennedy 3,   vs Carlton  4

    Charlie Curnow might be a handy acquisition on the cheap, come to think of it.

     

    Not sure he would leave to go to a club 2 spots higher on the ladder ?

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    9 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    Charlie Curnow might be a handy acquisition on the cheap, come to think of it.

    They wouldn't give him up cheap even if he wanted to leave. Too many clubs would want him (not saying i wouldn't like him though).

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    26 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    Getting rid of the empty paper bags and cigar butts would cost a bit though od. 

    Way cheaper than building a ground over the railway yards that some on here want to do Bbo.

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    I have no idea what the level of his ability is but it appears to be the old easy out. Much easier to replace one coach than 20 players who are not up to it. Took us the best part of six years to make a significant improvement to the list.

    Why is SOS not on the way out at the same time, he is after all the archithect of their list and he has been there some time. 

    Edited by old dee

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    1 hour ago, McQueen said:

    Oh goody. 

    A thread to shitcan Carlton to detract from our own abysmal situation. 

    Carry on. 

    Welcome to a footy forum! 

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