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Marty Hore and Jay Lockhart

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In Hore's case, might be a good reminder not to write players off after one or two games, @dazzledavey36?

Hore's kicking needs work but he reads the play as well as any defender at our club since Jared Rivers. He looks to me to understand defending really well.

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    23 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    In Hore's case, might be a good reminder not to write players off after one or two games, @dazzledavey36?

    Hore's kicking needs work but he reads the play as well as any defender at our club since Jared Rivers. He looks to me to understand defending really well.

    Agree, 

    If selectors think that a player is good enough to get a game in the ones, then the player should be given a number of consecutive games to prove their worth. At least a minimum of 2 games and maybe 3 or 4.  Totally opposed to selecting a player for their first game and dropping them a week later.  It damages the players confidence and almost says'to everyone that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Sure there are players who put in a shocker in their first game, but that normally tells you that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Petty is an example.  

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    3 minutes ago, hemingway said:

    Agree, 

    If selectors think that a player is good enough to get a game in the ones, then the player should be given a number of consecutive games to prove their worth. At least a minimum of 2 games and maybe 3 or 4.  Totally opposed to selecting a player for their first game and dropping them a week later.  It damages the players confidence and almost says'to everyone that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Sure there are players who put in a shocker in their first game, but that normally tells you that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Petty is an example.  

    Agree. Have to give Keilty a game this week.

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    Think both have been fantastic.  Hore is looking more and more reliable down back and is the heir apparent to Hibberd.  When Lever and May return he may be freed up to be even more creative across half-back.

    Lockhart's had a great start.  A lot of x-factor in that things seem to 'happen' when the ball is near him.  Like Hannan, he regularly finds himself in the right place at the right time.

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    2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Couldn't find a spot for Salem?

    Hore could push Salem up to the wing when the cavalry starts to coming back into the team...

     

     

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    2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Couldn't find a spot for Salem?

    It may allow Salem to move to a wing. Would think he is leading the BNF at this point.

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    Both impressed me on Saturday. I’m really puzzled as to why Lockhart slipped under the radar, his attack on the ball was really first rate and his maturity is like someone in at least their 2nd season.

    And I agree about Hore, excellent composure, excellent reader of the play. Thanks Collingwood. And both fitted into the team very nicely indeed. 

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    When lever comes back in a couple of weeks it will be interesting to see what happens to Hore.  they play similar roles.

    Lever, Frost, Hore and Hibbo in the same back 6?  could work

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    16 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    Think both have been fantastic.  Hore is looking more and more reliable down back and is the heir apparent to Hibberd.  When Lever and May return he may be freed up to be even more creative across half-back.

    Lockhart's had a great start.  A lot of x-factor in that things seem to 'happen' when the ball is near him.  Like Hannan, he regularly finds himself in the right place at the right time.

    Couldn't argue with any of that. 

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    11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Was hoping to see him on a wing. 

    Actually, we play seven defenders rotating through the bench, so Salem can remain in the defensive slot. I like the idea of him on the wing, but it frightens me who might be the seventh defender if it's not him.

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    1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    Lockhart's had a great start.  A lot of x-factor in that things seem to 'happen' when the ball is near him

    Agree, one of the successes this season alongside Hore

    I think Spargo also has it but unfortunately does not do enough. 

    Lockhart is an improved version.

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    High praise from Hibberd:

    On Hore:  "...He drops back in space, helps the other defenders in the air and he is a great teammate. I love playing with Marty.”

    On Lockhart:  "You just know what you’re going to get with Jay. He is as hard as nails and probably one of the toughest players I’ve come across in footy,”

    Hore and Lockhart would love hearing that from an experienced and  succesful teammate.

    Only last week some on here were lamenting all the VFL standard players in our side.  Hore and Lockhart may just prove the doubters wrong (along with Fritsch, Hannan, AVB)

     

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    3 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

    Think both have been fantastic.  Hore is looking more and more reliable down back and is the heir apparent to Hibberd.  When Lever and May return he may be freed up to be even more creative across half-back.

    Lockhart's had a great start.  A lot of x-factor in that things seem to 'happen' when the ball is near him.  Like Hannan, he regularly finds himself in the right place at the right time.

    I'm Very happy to have Lockhart Hore in de Demon team...

    very happy.

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    2 hours ago, bazza226 said:

    We might have to try Frost on a wing to fit Salem into the back 6.

    Imagine TMc on one wing and Frosty on the other with Pertracca in the centre...  a strong marking centreline. with Lockhart on a flank Hannan opposite, & Keilty in CHF.  Weide deep with Hunt. And another small speedster in the pocket.

    Salem off the B/Flank.

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    16 minutes ago, DV8 said:

    Imagine TMc on one wing and Frosty on the other with Pertracca in the centre...  a strong marking centreline. with Lockhart on a flank Hannan opposite, & Keilty in CHF.  Weide deep with Hunt. And another small speedster in the pocket.

    Salem off the B/Flank.

    Jesus. why would you want to imagine that?

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    Lockhart has been a professional footballer for no more than a month or two. In each of his previous games, he was fading out quickly after a lively start, but he put together 4 quarters on the weekend and was vital. I think he will continue to improve.

    Hore's disposal on the weekend was concerning, but love his intercept marking, which is as important a trait as you can get in today's game.

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    When May, Lever and Jetta return, it will free up Frost and Hunt for the wings. Open space to run and long kicks to attack.

    Rotate through the wings with TMac & Weideman to offer variety in size and marking ability as well as run.

    Tracca needs a chill pill and to be instructed to hold the ball after a mark to take the time to make good choices and to set up his kicking.

    There is no rush to win.

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    2 hours ago, BAMF said:

    Jesus. why would you want to imagine that?

    We need speed, run and agility, in our forwardline...  so no Tracca or TMc.

    TMc can start there...  but I want him high, up in the midfield, to take marks around the centreline.

    Tracc I want him out of the F50.  I want him to start in the Pivot.  and rotate from the bench. He can run forward in play,  but I don't want him starting in the forward 50.  We need plenty of speed,  inside 50.

    A selection of,  Weide, Preuss, Keilty,  can be the talls inside 50

     

    IMO we need more marking dominance across the centreline...  with today's defensive press...  the '666' rule...  and the extended goal-square.

    Class and speed,  across both half-back,  and half-forward lines

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