Supermercado 2,806 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 The season is rooted anyway, there is nothing to be gained from making the club look like a 2012/13 style circus. Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted April 21, 2019 Author Posted April 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: Just out of curiosity... who are the 'multiple players careers' he has wrecked? Is there a club in the AFL that has not had players retire due to injury? What should the players do when they turn up to training on Monday..? Should everyone who is planning on leaving the end of a year (Roos, Jackson, etc.) resign immediately? (people are really struggling with who to blame now that Oscar has been dropped) Mitch Clark and Trengove for starters. Quote
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, olisik said: Mitch Clark and Trengove for starters. How did he break Mitch Clark’s navicular and give him depression? If anything, Clark returned to football after his foot injury, it was his mental health that led to his retirement. 1 Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: How did he break Mitch Clark’s navicular and give him depression? If anything, Clark returned to football after his foot injury, it was his mental health that led to his retirement. Didn’t Clark re-injure his foot and then have some soft tissue injuries (calf) on the same leg multiple times? From what I remember, he continually tried to come back to early as he wanted to repay the faith but should have been told to cool his jets. Not sure if this is Missons job or not. Trengove story is similar in continually playing injured. This has more to do with us picking a 21 year old kid as captain (similar to what we may have done with Viney!!!) 1 Quote
samcantstandya 1,081 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 21 hours ago, Zoiikgarden said: Perhaps he is a mole!! It's a bad look for an assistant coach 2 openly barrack 4 an opposition team regardless of whether we were in the final series. Especially if he was wearing their colors. Chaplin should've known that in AFL u can't openly barrack 4 another team when u r employed by someone else. Privately yes publicly no. 1 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted April 21, 2019 Author Posted April 21, 2019 Wonder what sort of long term damage TMac, Viney or Jetta are doing running around with obvious injuries at the moment. Quote
one_demon 826 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 9 hours ago, rjay said: Looks like it might be time for a review and clean out of the FD. I agree. We need a club-wide review. Need to look at what the assistant coaches are bringing to the table because we have problems on every line. 1 Quote
darkhorse72 1,943 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 2 hours ago, one_demon said: I agree. We need a club-wide review. Need to look at what the assistant coaches are bringing to the table because we have problems on every line. One example is looking at the total change of assistants and a review of hardwicks coaching style. They made changes and grabbed a flag. But had also replaced every single coaching assistant at the club for immediate impact. I dont know how that changed the approach but obviously it made a difference. Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,830 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 I have been banging on about Dave Misson for 2 years now, should have been saked at the end of 2017. As for Charlie, should have been sacked instantly after he was plastered all over national TV with a tigers scarf on. 2 Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Deeko2 said: Didn’t Clark re-injure his foot and then have some soft tissue injuries (calf) on the same leg multiple times? From what I remember, he continually tried to come back to early as he wanted to repay the faith but should have been told to cool his jets. Not sure if this is Missons job or not. Trengove story is similar in continually playing injured. This has more to do with us picking a 21 year old kid as captain (similar to what we may have done with Viney!!!) So, Mitch Clarke - Foot Trengove - Foot TMc - Foot Viney - Foot AVB - Foot Seems a trend dee-veloping to me. Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, samcantstandya said: It's a bad look for an assistant coach 2 openly barrack 4 an opposition team regardless of whether we were in the final series. Especially if he was wearing their colors. Chaplin should've known that in AFL u can't openly barrack 4 another team when u r employed by someone else. Privately yes publicly no. He’s gonna love the game this week Quote
Brownie 6,086 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sydee said: He’s gonna love the game this week Win win for Troy. Dump him Quote
What 18,810 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Win4theAges said: I have been banging on about Dave Misson for 2 years now, should have been saked at the end of 2017. Same. Could not agree more. 1 Quote
scarlett 247 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 10 hours ago, samcantstandya said: It's a bad look for an assistant coach 2 openly barrack 4 an opposition team regardless of whether we were in the final series. Especially if he was wearing their colors. Chaplin should've known that in AFL u can't openly barrack 4 another team when u r employed by someone else. Privately yes publicly no. How did you feel about Adam Yze and brad green cheering for us against geelong last years final, or david neitz singing the song when we beat sydney last week? Ive been asking about chaplins influence and coaching since he arrived, what ever hes been involved with has gone backwards under him If brad scott gets sacked and we pick him up, and he improves us, i couldnt care less if he's seen cheering on brissy in a finals match or cheering on his former players at nth. Quote
At the break of Gawn 4,515 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Who are the other good assistant coaches that may be available out there? Quote
Wells 11 5,503 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said: Who are the other good assistant coaches that may be available out there? Well, We had one of the best in jade Rawlings and imo his influence may have been bigger than we know. Certainly the backs are a shambles since he went. He’s coaching Casey now... I say bring him back at years end as a matter of urgency. 2 Quote
chook fowler 19,778 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Goodwin keeps saying we are too easy to play against. Whose fault is that? I bet it starts with the game plan and coaching. 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,733 Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, chook fowler said: Goodwin keeps saying we are too easy to play against. Whose fault is that? I bet it starts with the game plan and coaching. Agreed. From his press conf he thinks its the players: aren't working hard enough, can't get the ball i50 accurately enough (ie can't connect) and our forwards can't mark (ie can't connect). His points have validity but are only part of the story. I didn't get the impression he thought it was game plan related issues. I would be more confident of improvement if he said something like: we will look at all aspects of our game, player skills, workrate, structures, forward leading and positioning, ball movement etc. It wouldn't hurt to take and share the responsibility. Edited April 21, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero 4 Quote
chook fowler 19,778 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said: Who are the other good assistant coaches that may be available out there? Duterte - takes no prisoners 1 Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, chook fowler said: Duterte - takes no prisoners Extreme measure; would solve complacency issues though. Quote
Deemented Are Go! 3,704 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Agreed. From his press conf he thinks its the players: aren't working hard enough, can't get the ball i50 accurately enough (ie can't connect) and our forwards can't mark (ie can't connect). His points have validity but are only part of the story. I didn't get the impression he thought it was game plan related issues. I would be more confident of improvement if he said something like: we will look at all aspects of our game, player skills, workrate, structures, forward leading and positioning, ball movement etc. It wouldn't hurt to take and share the responsibility. Agree on this. I've noticed Roos, when discussing MFC and other present dysfunctioning clubs this year, takes the view of putting it back on the players not executing plans properly. Coincidence? Quote
Neil Crompton 5,852 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Agreed. From his press conf he thinks its the players: aren't working hard enough, can't get the ball i50 accurately enough (ie can't connect) and our forwards can't mark (ie can't connect). His points have validity but are only part of the story. I didn't get the impression he thought it was game plan related issues. I would be more confident of improvement if he said something like: we will look at all aspects of our game, player skills, workrate, structures, forward leading and positioning, ball movement etc. It wouldn't hurt to take and share the responsibility. Agee LH But I’d also say that no game plan will work if the players cannot employ the basic skills of modern football. I’m not saying our game plan doesn’t need altering but when we cannot hit a target, drop marks, refuse to two way run, cannot pick up loose men, continue to have 3 up and no one down, continue to show no on field intelligence or leadership, etc then, as I said, no game will work. The players are making our coaching look bad. Therefore the suggestions on here by some of bringing in players of even lessor skills - such as Stretch and ANB, just because they can run - frightens me. But playing Lewis and Jones on the wing is a joke. Having a dysfunctional forward line is a joke. And having a backline that refuses to have one player goal side of any attacking move is a joke - and a poor reflection on our coaching staff. So yes LH the blame needs to be shared. Edited April 22, 2019 by Neil Crompton 4 Quote
chook fowler 19,778 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, chook fowler said: Duterte - takes no prisoners 3 hours ago, TRIGON said: Extreme measure; would solve complacency issues though. After 60+ years of following this rabble I’m ok with extreme measures 1 1 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Posted April 22, 2019 A little convenient Jetta sat out round 4 with a knee complaint only to come out of round 5 needing surgery and to miss an extended stint on the side lines. Seems another Misson speciality, guy needs to go ASAP. 3 Quote
SPC 3,596 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Don’t forget Jennings!!! He is the guy who is looking at Trends in the game.. hi Craig, heard of a 6-6-6? Quote
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