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Oliver to have surgery on BOTH shoulders!

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10 hours ago, Neitz the Great said:

I’m a physio and this worries me immensely. The latarjet procedure is not one to take lightly and can involve multiple setbacks during recovery...and he’s having them on both shoulders. The procedure will have to be a couple of weeks apart so that he can start to regain some minimal function in one shoulder before operating on the next. Hate to say it but it won’t surprise me if clarry doesn’t get much of a preseason. Estimates of early jan are touch and go for me. 

Neitz, Oliver is a young footballer at the start of his career. He plays a crash and bash style of game. 

What does this mean for his longevity in the game? 

How many shoulder operations of this kind can you do? 

Is the decision to undertake this procedure precautionary or an indication of the seriousness of the damage already done? For most of us, surgery is the last resort only undertaken if all other forms of treatment have failed or not going to fix the problem. Professional sport is another thing, but do you think this type of surgery is sensible or the answer at such a young age?  

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    Sorry to hear it.  Guess it helps explain why Clarrie seemed to be missing a lot of handball targets in the past few weeks.  He certainly didn't seem to be the "same ole Clarrie".  Here's hoping for no complications, and a speedy, full recovery!!

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    49 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Its alright Juddy had [censored] shoulders

     

    Chris+Judd+Cameron+Guthrie+AFL+Rd+8+Geel

    So did Carey

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    11 hours ago, Neitz the Great said:

    I’m a physio and this worries me immensely. The latarjet procedure is not one to take lightly and can involve multiple setbacks during recovery...and he’s having them on both shoulders. The procedure will have to be a couple of weeks apart so that he can start to regain some minimal function in one shoulder before operating on the next. Hate to say it but it won’t surprise me if clarry doesn’t get much of a preseason. Estimates of early jan are touch and go for me. 

    I'm going to pretend this post doesn't exist... 

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    12 hours ago, picket fence said:

    WOW JUST VIRTUALY INDESTRUCTIBLE! LIKE CRYTONITE IN REVERSE! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE STAR!

    Is that anything like Kryptonite? ?  But I do get what you are saying and must agree.

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    If these are his numbers with two bad shoulders, he should be in for a decent year next year!

    • Disposals - 734 *
    • Contested - 404 *
    • Clearances - 161 *
    • Tackles - 168 *
    • Goals - 12
    • Assists - 18
    • Inside 50s - 111

    * club leader.  he was second for the club in inside 50s

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    I'd image tackling is the hardest action with crook shoulders, or perhaps overhead marking. Wayne Carey had crook shoulders & it didn't stop him being a gun.

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    58 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

    I'd image tackling is the hardest action with crook shoulders, or perhaps overhead marking. Wayne Carey had crook shoulders & it didn't stop him being a gun.

    Not in the early days, but he was very restricted toward the backend of his career. Had trouble taking contested marks above his head.  Despite his injuries he refused to rest his body insisting that he was OK to play each week probably to his detriment. 

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    Clarry....you shouldn't try to carry the expectations of so many upon your shoulders!!

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    17 hours ago, Neitz the Great said:

    I’m a physio and this worries me immensely. The latarjet procedure is not one to take lightly and can involve multiple setbacks during recovery...and he’s having them on both shoulders. The procedure will have to be a couple of weeks apart so that he can start to regain some minimal function in one shoulder before operating on the next. Hate to say it but it won’t surprise me if clarry doesn’t get much of a preseason. Estimates of early jan are touch and go for me. 

    Nevertheless, looking longer term, it is important to get him right.

    But as I understand the Latarjet is a lesser procedure than a full shoulder record ... is that correct?

    16 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

    I used to date a circus trapeze artist who needed both her shoulders done, this is not a simple surgery, stacks of recovery involved, NTG is being kind. Makes the Geelong game a standout and explains Saturday. I wonder if he's been having needles.

    I guess in fairness trapeze artists shoulder stability is quite literally a matter of life and death.

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    4 hours ago, DubDee said:

    If these are his numbers with two bad shoulders, he should be in for a decent year next year!

    • Disposals - 734 *
    • Contested - 404 *
    • Clearances - 161 *
    • Tackles - 168 *
    • Goals - 12
    • Assists - 18
    • Inside 50s - 111

    * club leader.  he was second for the club in inside 50s

    Extraordinary effort and The Age article today stated that he was

    first in the competition for contested possessions

    second for tackles

    third for clearances

    You can’t do much better than that as a midfielder; they would be the top 3 KPI’s for most midfield coaches. Mitchell gets 28 votes, Clarrie gets 13 votes? 

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    Clarry Choo Choo is the antithesis of KRYPTONITE

    Totally indestuctable !image.png.148cf068b6bcb7214af75b7e92e82288.png

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    4 hours ago, monoccular said:

    Nevertheless, looking longer term, it is important to get him right.

    But as I understand the Latarjet is a lesser procedure than a full shoulder record ... is that correct?

    I guess in fairness trapeze artists shoulder stability is quite literally a matter of life and death.

    Yes it was, and for all of those with minds on off topic subjects, yes it was every bit as exciting as one might hope for.

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    11 hours ago, picket fence said:

    Clarry Choo Choo is the antithesis of KRYPTONITE

    Totally indestuctable !image.png.148cf068b6bcb7214af75b7e92e82288.png

    I don’t get why you keep referring to kryptonite and referring to it in the manner you are. The material itself is impervious to damage, particularly from heat vision. 

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    On 9/25/2018 at 7:36 AM, rjay said:

    Any info on this procedure @Webber

    All my experience with latarjet has been excellent. It is the definitive solution to instability, and whilst there is bone healing required that lengthens rehab, particularly in respect to contact and heavy resistance work, outcomes are unquestioned. Clarry’s running fitness will not be compromised (he’s advantaged there anyway), just his contact involvement delayed. Good news, and a smart long term approach, IMO. 

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    1 hour ago, Webber said:

    All my experience with latarjet has been excellent. It is the definitive solution to instability, and whilst there is bone healing required that lengthens rehab, particularly in respect to contact and heavy resistance work, outcomes are unquestioned. Clarry’s running fitness will not be compromised (he’s advantaged there anyway), just his contact involvement delayed. Good news, and a smart long term approach, IMO. 

    what's his chances of making round 1, @Webber?

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    25 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    what's his chances of making round 1, @Webber?

    No problem. 

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    1 hour ago, hells bells said:

    Looks like Nev and Mitch Hannan also went in for ops today based on Instagram posts.

    And Trac

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