On 10/10/2018 at 05:52, Deemania since 56 said:

Apply Max Gawn's training routine over summer, a few sharp drills as a backman, who needs May, after all? He can also swing forward to raise hell. He would easily back up Max. He'd protect the little blokes as a father figure. He is wary of no-one - look at the showreel: Eyes for the ball and capacity to trample those in front of him during a clean mark. He'd be great in a red 'n blue Guernsey.

 

  On 10/10/2018 at 05:53, Deemania since 56 said:

Positioning is taught and at his size, quickly learned. 

 

Mason Cox seemed to lead from scratch. 

  On 10/10/2018 at 02:25, dl4e said:

Didn't mind Mick Nolan as a ruckman.

The Galloping Gasometer re-invented

i agree with a previous poster.. needs to improve his tank. hope he's about to start running training with gawn asap. 

  On 10/10/2018 at 07:01, Rocky said:

i agree with a previous poster.. needs to improve his tank. hope he's about to start running training with gawn asap. 

Let Crossy have him for a month. That will sort him out.

  On 10/10/2018 at 08:41, Frustrated Demon said:

Let Crossy have him for a month. That will sort him out.

Nope, needs to wait until Crossy sorts out Petracca's tank.

  On 10/10/2018 at 04:33, whatwhatsaywhat said:

his raw numbers are not particularly compelling: http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=196455977&client=0-118-0-339767-20320232

A good thing raw numbers tell SFA.

We're about to sign a ready-to-go ruckman with the league's greatest potential on a four year deal for sfa.

With a project in Bradtke, ruck department nominally sorted for the next half a decade. 

Such a difficult juggle nowadays. Big tick. Fantastic MFC. 

He is huge, no wonder the club want him.

Nickname TANK?

  On 10/10/2018 at 04:45, Diamond_Jim said:

great post ?

certainly not dominant around the ground

9 contested marks out of 16 games doesn't say much either.

Hit outs are consistent around 20 per game but he must struggle against the Pies..11 and 8

He didn't play against Casey which is unfortunate for comparison purposes

Heaps of upside being that big and only 23.  His best footy well and truly in front of him. 

  On 10/10/2018 at 06:07, corowa said:

Only a season or two ago, Preuss kept Goldstein out of North's team, so he must have talent.

He is certainly a better back up for Max than any of the options we had this year.

However, having both Max and Preuss in the same team might unbalance it. I can't see him playing too many games with Max next season, so I would question his reason for wanting to join us.

 

Both are quite versatile talls - 'unbalance' is not caused by altitude onfield; both are characteristically mobile and with the MFC training methods of which Max excelled last pre-season, Preuss could be similarly applied. Certainly, in kick-outs from defence, having one in the formation packs at various points gives the team two marking targets at any one time, at different locations on the ground - quite an asset when clearances mean everything. This new big bloke can hone his skills to play either end, giving Max the opportunity to use his nut to select where he will wish to be at any given time. Then there is the back-up role so that Max can get a short rest onfield, forward or back when Preuss is back or forward; notwithstanding in the midfield where either, not both, can nominate for rucking duties. His sheer protective size is another advantage for our talented mids, crumbers and linkage players and so, with Vanders on deck, this represents some pretty tough blokes to man-up against for any opposition. If Max is mobile, which he certainly is, then Preuss is going to be very mobile - provided he undertakes the development pre-season that Max undertook to take his game to the next level. It is a coaching strategy to move forward with our existing talent array to achieve what are monumental obstacles for opposition teams. Our contested marks will also go sky high alongside our contested possessions for which we have an abundance. That's my opinion - it is a little bit like having both Neitz and the Ox on the ground at the same time who just happen to ruck, very well, as well.

  On 10/10/2018 at 10:12, Demons11 said:

Heaps of upside being that big and only 23.  His best footy well and truly in front of him. 

Yes, I wonder what Max's highlight reel looked like age 23 in 2015? Probably not dissimilar 

  On 10/10/2018 at 10:26, Moonshadow said:

Yes, I wonder what Max's highlight reel looked like age 23 in 2015? Probably not dissimilar 

 

 

  On 10/10/2018 at 10:26, Moonshadow said:

Yes, I wonder what Max's highlight reel looked like age 23 in 2015? Probably not dissimilar 

Punching durries while doing rehab?

Anyone who can tower over big Mummy like this is worth a go I reckon.

 

  On 10/10/2018 at 04:08, Demonland said:

I'd be touted as a number 1 Draft pick based on my 17 seconds of highlights. 

Go on then.....
We'd all be on the "Draft Andy" train!

Edited October 10, 20186 yr by Dr. Mubutu
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Am not against this, but why when clubs are all over themselves about ruckmen, is North letting him go, North has more cash to spare and Goldstein is up to his last season or two, haven't seen a answer to this anywhere but somethings sounds NQR, did he fall out with the coach or what? If it's fitness, why is North not backing themselves to fix his tank.

@La Dee-vina Comedia makes a good point but it seems a big gamble to be recruiting based on rule change speculation.

Anyway there is still a piece of the puzzle missing for me, and when something looks too good to be true...

But as always, the FD recruiting, led by Taylor and Viney have proved they are worth the trust, I'm just curious about the back story I guess.

Just quietly I wouldn't mind Stefan Martin coming back either.

 

Todd Goldstien thinks it can work.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/10/10/preuss-and-gawn-could-be-a-formidable-duo-goldstein/

  On 10/10/2018 at 11:30, DaisyDeeciple said:

Am not against this, but why when clubs are all over themselves about ruckmen, is North letting him go, North has more cash to spare and Goldstein is up to his last season or two, haven't seen a answer to this anywhere but somethings sounds NQR, did he fall out with the coach or what? If it's fitness, why is North not backing themselves to fix his tank.

@La Dee-vina Comedia makes a good point but it seems a big gamble to be recruiting based on rule change speculation.

Anyway there is still a piece of the puzzle missing for me, and when something looks too good to be true...

But as always, the FD recruiting, led by Taylor and Viney have proved they are worth the trust, I'm just curious about the back story I guess.

Just quietly I wouldn't mind Stefan Martin coming back either.

 

@Supermercado would be over the moon. I wouldn't hate it either.

  On 10/10/2018 at 11:40, Dr. Mubutu said:

@Supermercado would be over the moon. I wouldn't hate it either.

the Stef Martin bit?

  On 10/10/2018 at 11:30, DaisyDeeciple said:

Am not against this, but why when clubs are all over themselves about ruckmen, is North letting him go, North has more cash to spare and Goldstein is up to his last season or two, haven't seen a answer to this anywhere but somethings sounds NQR, did he fall out with the coach or what? If it's fitness, why is North not backing themselves to fix his tank.

@La Dee-vina Comedia makes a good point but it seems a big gamble to be recruiting based on rule change speculation.

Anyway there is still a piece of the puzzle missing for me, and when something looks too good to be true...

But as always, the FD recruiting, led by Taylor and Viney have proved they are worth the trust, I'm just curious about the back story I guess.

Just quietly I wouldn't mind Stefan Martin coming back either.

 

North drafted a youngster - Xerri - who they have high hopes for as the future after Goldstein in 2-3 years. They aren't in the premiership window and are trying to accumulate players who will help them win games whilst still keeping their salary cap open for big name recruits. Tyson makes sense because he'll help them win games and they can front load him in 2019 and have a very cheap depth player in 2020/21.

We are closing in on a premiership window - if all goes to plan - and need a back up ruck. A must have when in the window. We haven't been able to draft one so we'll pay for one. He's not perfect - not really a forward and needs to work on his fitness, but he has enough size, strength and competitiveness to fill in for Max if needed and wouldn't be the worst up forward either.

  On 10/10/2018 at 13:37, DeeSpencer said:

North drafted a youngster - Xerri - who they have high hopes for as the future after Goldstein in 2-3 years. They aren't in the premiership window and are trying to accumulate players who will help them win games whilst still keeping their salary cap open for big name recruits. Tyson makes sense because he'll help them win games and they can front load him in 2019 and have a very cheap depth player in 2020/21.

We are closing in on a premiership window - if all goes to plan - and need a back up ruck. A must have when in the window. We haven't been able to draft one so we'll pay for one. He's not perfect - not really a forward and needs to work on his fitness, but he has enough size, strength and competitiveness to fill in for Max if needed and wouldn't be the worst up forward either.

There's too much sense in this post.

  On 10/10/2018 at 04:45, Diamond_Jim said:

great post ?

certainly not dominant around the ground

9 contested marks out of 16 games doesn't say much either.

Hit outs are consistent around 20 per game but he must struggle against the Pies..11 and 8

He didn't play against Casey which is unfortunate for comparison purposes

No shiit post.  Those stats are not from last year.  Did you miss it when he dominated against us in atrocious conditions at Casey this season in a rare televised match?

Have a look at the 2018 stats in the later post by @Sydee.  Scroll across to his hitout numbers "reasonable number of hit out" 75, 72, 62, 60, 55, 50. FML I'd like to see good numbers then!

Look this trade only makes sense to me if he's back up to Max.  He's not really a ruck forward like Vardy, he's a big 1st tap ruckman.  Contested mark numbers are reasonably good at 20.

We'd have to be consistently playing a more extreme version of the gamestyle with a ruckman behind the play if Max and Preuss both play together.

Edited October 10, 20186 yr by Fifty-5

  On 10/10/2018 at 10:48, EnterTheDragon said:

Anyone who can tower over big Mummy like this is worth a go I reckon.

 

This photo of Preuss rucking against Big Mummy is an example of his balance, poise and phenomenal reach. He is towering over the bloke by weight of his sheer, vertical leap and agility - not that agility is one of Mummy's strengths. The look of surprise on that face says it all: '...where the friggin beJesus did that come from?' Just imagine the effect of that tap - with Viney, ANB, Clarrie. ANB. KK, Jones, Spargo, Stretch, Harmes, Salem and Hannan - and others, in any combination at full flight to receive and clear! The landing from that leap will be on two feet, moving forward AND saving Max's shins from yet another 100+ kg of static impact. Get him and get him training with careful and close attention. Who needs May?

  On 10/10/2018 at 11:30, DaisyDeeciple said:

Am not against this, but why when clubs are all over themselves about ruckmen, is North letting him go, .....

Maybe North see Daw as being Goldy's successor (the next NicNat)?

  On 09/10/2018 at 09:23, Redleg said:

I wouldn't. Only reason is to remove $500k from our cap and make room for May if Jesse stays.

Theres a thought.

  On 09/10/2018 at 09:35, Redleg said:

We don't have the cap room, but getting rid of Kent, Tyson and maybe VDB should leave room even if Jesse stays.

I think THEY said at start of season that we had rooom in the books, for an A grader  Pre Hogan trade scenario.  and also Pre Angus contract.

I want us to have deWiede signed on, for longer than next year.