43 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

North Melbourne are spewing they kept Goldy, could have gotten a first around pick for Goldy, and still have a good ruckman in Preuss, I wonder if we could trade back to them, for late first round to early second round pick ?

Or Jared Polec

Everyone knows the second we trade him Max will get injured so...don’t do it

Courtesy of the Dees Podcast

14 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

People are just being realistic, as he will likely request  a trade.

Why would he hang around to play at Casey all of 2021?

 

13 hours ago, Skuit said:

For the same reason he joined us in the first place? 

 

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Well then why did he sign with us in the first place?

We don't know.   But if he wants to stay we'd be mad to trade him for anything other than an ace player  - which is very unlikely to be offered.   So I reckon the real question is:  if he wants to go, how hard do we go to make him want to stay?

2 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Or Jared Polec

God, no. Number 1 downhill skier

9 minutes ago, sue said:

 So I reckon the real question is:  if he wants to go, how hard do we go to make him want to stay?

Hard. By appealing to the points that Moonshadow raised. Points that surely formed part of our initial pitch. People seem to have forgotten the knee-scare Max had during the pre-season. That fright was tempered somewhat by having Preuss around, who subsequently went down. Weid back on ruck duties now and our season would be finished. 

19 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

I like the idea ... but I have a feeling that having one of Preuss or Gawn forward the whole game will have a detrimental impact on our forward pressure.  Obviously TMac does not have great speed or agility but I feel he would do better than either of the ruckman at finding his man / running to the right spot in the zone etc.

Potentially also messes with Weid's role because he's currently playing out of the goal square most of the match -  can't imagine max or preuss playing CHF

I'd reckon that these negatives are real but could be overcome with some strategic, rotated bursts onfield. Weed could stay where Weed plays best - and that is in the goalsquare - and a possy/come utility role for both Max and Preuss in-between rucking duties and second efforts would be rather unique to the League and certainly, extremely difficult for clubs without to man-up against, let alone nullify. Even, dare I suggest it, both could become specialist targets (ie: one for the shallow backline spots (kick-ins, clearance passes) and the other for the forwardline (Preuss - he can kick 'em at range, in close and is not terribly likely to be out-marked, out-bodied, and provides great screens and second efforts for the little fellas hungry for the ground ball). It would be a gutsy play but may very well work to enormous advantage such as the young height and mobility of the Whoreforms and the Catty Puts in recent years.

2 hours ago, sisso said:

Everyone knows the second we trade him Max will get injured so...don’t do it

Braydon is nearly 4 years younger than Max .  Huge long term insurance policy and he will get his chances.

As you say - DON'T DO IT

Preuss has thinned down to increase his mobility. Unfortunate that there is no VFL to test whether it has worked.

The 2018/2019 version of Preuss is old school and is very difficult to reconcile with the modern game.

Many commentators are pushing for 3 man up rule to come back to remove congestion. If this happens the days of the static ruckman are over.

On 8/16/2020 at 9:46 AM, Demons3031 said:

Might take some pressure off Gawn. He gets targeted and sometimes his great ruck work nullified by strong Opposition onballers.

 At times I feel he  is overworked and depended on too much. Now that Brayshaw Oliver and Petracca are lifting maybe he could be  more flexible?

Some of his best work is when he drifts down back and  intercepts or up forward to take a strong mark that opposition find hard to stop.(Just needs to nail some of those close in shots!) A bit more time down back and up forward wouldn't hurt methinks-though depends a lot on team balance and how the game is being played.)

I'm open to others thoughts on this. Is having two big men on at the same too much? Could they be used through interchange as well?

I think Max playing ruck/forward would really assist us, and Preuss playing second ruck would assist that. I think it could work to our advantage...

3 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Courtesy of the Dees Podcast

Without Preuss we are 5-5 , and you don't need a calculator to know that's not 44%

5 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Or Jared Polec

No way he is sh@t turnover king, lazy, overpaid by 350000

One item Preuss does have in the party bag that Gawn doesn't is an enormous kick. We saw it in action a couple of times on the weekend, one of which was when he effortlessly kicked it to the advantage of TMac in the goal square from 60+ metres away, in the play that resulted in the Melksham soccer goal. It was a ripper.  

19 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Without Preuss we are 5-5 , and you don't need a calculator to know that's not 44%

it's from the dees podcast FB site PJ.  Just a bit of fun, i'm not sure how they arrived at it.  Might have included last year or whatever

4 hours ago, Nasher said:

One item Preuss does have in the party bag that Gawn doesn't is an enormous kick. We saw it in action a couple of times on the weekend, one of which was when he effortlessly kicked it to the advantage of TMac in the goal square from 60+ metres away, in the play that resulted in the Melksham soccer goal. It was a ripper.  

i remember the first goal he kicked for us - it was a monster.

22 hours ago, Elegt said:

I'd compare him to Marc Pittonet;  a solid ruckman who is decent depth. He was traded for pick 61 in the 2019 draft for picks 54 and 63. I'd expect something similar for Pruess. Clubs won't pay high for a ruckman who is currently 3rd in the pecking order.

Technically he is our no 2 ruckman and played like he belonged and l was not surprised . I remember him playing against us as he had played only a hand full of games and he certainly took it up to Max.

Yes with us he has been sidelined  with injuries  however he came in to the side with a ripping body and fit as and ready to play. Somehow l cannot see Max playing this week against the Dogs. I think Preuss will back himself to do the job again with the help of TMac.

Jackson is our future an 18 yo an athlete that is a natural ruckman come forward  and can play as a midfielder ALA Nic Nat however he is 18 and has to do an apprenticeship, certainly don't want to burn him out. 

The thing is if Pruess does well for the rest of 2020 season  while Jackson or Gawn is out or both do you look at trading him at the end of the year?  Would they be that silly   (Melbourne) ?   I rate him. 

 

10 hours ago, Nasher said:

One item Preuss does have in the party bag that Gawn doesn't is an enormous kick. We saw it in action a couple of times on the weekend, one of which was when he effortlessly kicked it to the advantage of TMac in the goal square from 60+ metres away, in the play that resulted in the Melksham soccer goal. It was a ripper.  

Magnanimous of you Nash, as I think you've been all over the (admittedly from his perspective) odd Preuss trade from day one, as much as you're keen on minutes played. It was a mighty kick. And he took a few contested marks which is my equivalent thing. 

3 hours ago, Skuit said:

Magnanimous of you Nash, as I think you've been all over the (admittedly from his perspective) odd Preuss trade from day one, as much as you're keen on minutes played. It was a mighty kick. And he took a few contested marks which is my equivalent thing. 

Thanks. It might not come across this way but I am actually a fan of Preuss, I just think we need to be realistic about what he is and where he is in the pecking order. As you allude to I was surprised he wanted to come here to play second fiddle to Gawn when he is capable of being a first ruck, but I’m certainly not complaining about it and I’m in favour of keeping him if he wants to stay.

Quad

That'll be him done for 2020 you'd think

There goes that first round draft pick. 

16 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Quad

That'll be him done for 2020 you'd think

Wait, what? Who?

20 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Wait, what? Who?

Preuss. 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-13-2020-news-team-whispers-full-squads-fixtures-ins-and-outs-benches-when-are-teams-released/news-story/19b15952bb485332a9a3415d90982823

47 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Quad

That'll be him done for 2020 you'd think

Where'd you hear that mate?

Message from a mate with good thources