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  On 17/08/2018 at 07:13, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I hope Spargo just had an off day last week as his set shots from 30 metres out were not AFL standard. 

I reckon Spargo's been pretty poor for weeks, although not to the horror show-level that we saw vs Sydney.

Obviously Garlett's been off the pace, but I thought he'd been improving since getting back in and agree with you re: Garlett being far more dangerous.

 
  On 17/08/2018 at 07:05, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I’m a big Garlett fan, but I like these changes.  The team’s looking a lot quicker and damaging this week.  Melksham, Kent and Hibberd all have long, line-breaking kicks.

On the rare occasions that Kent has been able to play these past two seasons he has looked very good. He and Melksham should help in linking up from half back to half forward and delivering ball deep in our F50. 

 
  On 17/08/2018 at 05:46, Deemania since 56 said:

This is achievable for the MFC - having bled against the Swans so badly down the southern flanks. Again, this is ground that we must use and exploit - not doing all our work down the northern flanks only to see turnovers after turnovers against our progress. JKH actually began, singularly, to flee quickly to the southern flanks in the fwd line and was successful, several times, intercepting against the Swannies and taking some possessions himself to a somewhat better effect than what was being achieved on the northern flanks. But we are not at the 'G this week; hence, we must become a 2-sided team in all regards. From the flanks, we should not send 90% of our possessions, runs and carries, kicks and handball back to the midline whilst making improved space(s) at both flanks. 

The dimensions of MCG (160 × 129 m) and the new optus stadium (165 × 130 m) are similar.
The corridors we use should be the ones less defended. Or if we are closing the game down then we kick down the line to packs. So north, south or middle is irrelevant. They are probably moving to a game plan anyway.
I see our main problem being the opposition getting a run on and kicking numerous unanswered goals. I think it is a mental problem and lack of hardness. They look like roos in the headlights, unable to get the ball as they become spectators. We really need to make a determined effort to answer every goal the opposition get and make our own run of unanswered goals. 
Kicking to targets especially if the player has space is better than bombs to packs. Errors will occur but repetition at training can help as well as knowing other players limitations (I think that is one of Hogans problems, he expects the carrier to deliver to him instead working hard to make it easy for the player to feed him).
Freeing the ball movement takes creativity and lowering the eyes.


Dare I say it again....line on the sand moment for this coach and his players.  Everybody except WCE supporters want us to stand up as a club.  The players either want it or don’t!  Sadly the same applied last week and they didn’t want it bad enough.  Can’t see that changing this week, but maybe inclusion of new blood might surprise us.  I wouldn’t spend a cent tipping us.

Here we go the Friday very happy with the changes on Demoland

To be followed by the Sunday post game.....the selection cost us again

On this board in the last few weeks

Kent was supposedly just trade bait for Gaff

The dropping of Hannan last time was roundly applauded

Weidemann wiil never make it

Spargo can't kick goals, well at least Brian Taylor thinks so

The hypocrisy amuses me

 

 
  On 17/08/2018 at 07:04, dazzledavey36 said:

Official

Kent, Hibbo, Melksham, Weed, Hannan are in!

JKH, Hogan, Hunt, Pedersen, Garlett out!

Great ins in my opinion! 

Some much speed and strength into the lineups.

 

Absolutely!! Out with the passengers, in with some speed and grunt!

I'm really interested to see how the Weid will go, and the input of Kent.

Hibbo and Melksham are HUGE ins.

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:14, Diamond_Jim said:

5 changes...signs of almost desperation ...two for improvement and one forced but it does not augur well.

What a disappointment this season has been

Doesn't matter what the footy department do, some people are always going to complain.

Edited by drysdale demon
correction


  On 17/08/2018 at 07:31, drysdale demon said:

Doesn't what the footy department do, some people are always going to complain.

do you disagree that changing out one quarter of the team with two games to go shows that we are not travelling well.

Fact is this season ended last week if not a few weeks before.

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:14, Lord Travis said:

Would’ve preferred Garlett than Hannan. Despite having a poor game against the Swans, he was amongst our most dangerous players the week before and was IMO a key reason we beat Adelaide over there. His 2nd/3rd quarter burst set up our win. 

Hannan has not had any impact on an AFL match in 12 months. Poor selection.

The Ins otherwise are all solid choices. Melksham and Hibberd will make a big difference!

Me too. Garlett only needs a few chances and can make something out of nothing. Not to mention would probably relish the conditions. 

Hannan will need to kick a couple AMD bring some serious pressure. 

Edited by layzie

  On 17/08/2018 at 00:20, Deemania since 56 said:

So would I. Read the last line of my post on this team selection. Possibly - on paper - this team selection was a decoy tactic before Sunday arrives. Spargo may well be benched due to unforseen circumstances enabling Fritsch to come into the game, earlier. Certainly hope that this is the case. We will need, in defence, Wagner's run and carry, and his deceptive height, in the backline, as well. 

Sorry, from your original post it sounded like you wanted Fritsch dropped, as you'd left him out of your starting bench. Hence my comment.

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:34, Diamond_Jim said:

do you disagree that changing out one quarter of the team with two games to go shows that we are not travelling well.

Fact is this season ended last week if not a few weeks before.

Yes I do if it improves the team, which it has, not all people are pessimists either

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:16, chook fowler said:

Very, very happy with the changes. Gives a fighting chance. 

I agree. Only one I'm not 100% on is Hannan. Has seemed to either kick 2 or go completely missing. Hopefully this is the former


It’s interesting that after a close loss they’ve gone for so many changes, 2 were forced but the rest you can only say the players dropped either didn’t fit the plan they wanted to go for or didn’t meet the standards they wanted to set. 

I still personally feel that Spargo’s selection goes against the standards being set but he gets another shot and he’s had a good first year. 

I’m not confident, maybe it’s the doom and gloom already taking hold, but Melksham and Hibbo make us a better team so there’s that. Kent, Hannan, and Weeds are all players that have had good VFL form and must be hungry for their chance. Time for them to step up that next level. 

Edited by Pates

5 changes and only 2 forced due to injury. Been a while since the club made such a big statement. I hope it results in success......

Were now  $2.15. Am I missing something?

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:25, Satyriconhome said:

Here we go the Friday very happy with the changes on Demoland

To be followed by the Sunday post game.....the selection cost us again

On this board in the last few weeks

Kent was supposedly just trade bait for Gaff

The dropping of Hannan last time was roundly applauded

Weidemann wiil never make it

Spargo can't kick goals, well at least Brian Taylor thinks so

The hypocrisy amuses me

 

I suspect it's the difference between a pessimistic view on Monday and an optimistic view on Friday.

  On 17/08/2018 at 04:58, RedButMostlyBlue said:

I'm always bemused by the number of times people say we'll respond 'this week' because last week was a 'wake up call' (i.e. one of the many moments where there was some hope/expectation and we've fallen flat)...

How many times does that phone have to ring? Will we answer the wake up call this week (and stay awake)?

NB: I'm not one of the negative sorts, I always think we're one win away from everything falling into place. Go Dees!

...And for what it's worth, I think we'll win this weekend!

Last week, we just were not,  'good - enough' !

 

Let's start to call it, as it is...  warts and all.   So the players here it as well.

Sometimes this club is just  'way-to casual',  about playing footy. 

 

It never seems to hurt our players enough,,,,  until the Fat-Lady has Sung,  Showered,  and Sailed home...   By the time they wake up, the seasons finished.

.


Like the changes one of the strongest teams we have had all year, no list cloggers in the side. I'm confident in a dees win?

Definitely a bold line-up, but that's what it's about right now. We can't keep doing the same things and expecting different results.

We won't finish the season wondering, and at the very least we'll know a lot more about who should be part of our 2019 premiership side!

  On 17/08/2018 at 07:25, Satyriconhome said:

Here we go the Friday very happy with the changes on Demoland

To be followed by the Sunday post game.....the selection cost us again

On this board in the last few weeks

Kent was supposedly just trade bait for Gaff

The dropping of Hannan last time was roundly applauded

Weidemann wiil never make it

Spargo can't kick goals, well at least Brian Taylor thinks so

The hypocrisy amuses me

 

Saty, if that were true then it would be hypocrisy. Please show us an example of where a particular poster has been hypocritical to back your "amusing" claim. Your opinion is as important as anyone else on here - just hope its factual. 

 
  On 17/08/2018 at 07:35, layzie said:

Me too. Garlett only needs a few chances and can make something out of nothing. Not to mention would probably relish the conditions. 

Hannan will need to kick a couple AMD bring some serious pressure. 

It’s unfortunate but when the heat went up Garlett defensive pressure was pathetic at times 


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