Yeats, Grinter, Green, Yze, Bruce, and others et al

[picket fence 17,163]

...What have they all got in common??

All have had significant experience as either TAC Cup, Assistant coach, Head coach APS coach or other football roles.

However most ARE WITH OTHER CLUBS ! WHY?

My point is all have been coached by either Barassi, Northey, Balme, or The reverend! all have had significant playing careers and so...

WHY AREN'T THEY WITH THE DEES in some capacity.?? I reckon they would be sensational as assistant coaches with us and lend a significant Brains trust of intrinsic footy knowledge and old fashion Dees values to our current players. Thoughts?

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[jane02 3,748]

It breaks my heart to see them in a coaching capacity with other clubs.

[Willmoy1947 4,086]

My kids come home when they want something..........

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4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

...What have they all got in common??

All have had significant experience as either TAC Cup, Assistant coach, Head coach APS coach or other football roles.

However most ARE WITH OTHER CLUBS ! WHY?

My point is all have been coached by either Barassi, Northey, Balme, or The reverend! all have had significant playing careers and so...

WHY AREN'T THEY WITH THE DEES in some capacity.?? I reckon they would be sensational as assistant coaches with us and lend a significant Brains trust of intrinsic footy knowledge and old fashion Dees values to our current players. Thoughts?

Who's Grinter with? Yeats?

Yze is at the Hawks eh?

Greenie? And Cam the Bruce?

[The Chazz 4,077]

Does it break the hearts of Sydney supporters to see Ben Mathews at our club?

Geelong supporters to see Max Rooke with us?

North supporters to see Longmire coaching Sydney?

Was Green not captain of our club for 186?  I prefer to not have anyone that was associated with our club back then anywhere near our club nowadays.

I'm amazed at how many of our supporters love a good fairytale.

[dazzledavey36 54,907]

Haha Green got the chop from both Carlton and North. Obviously cant coach to save himself. Not sure what hes doing these days?

[DeeZone 9,835]

I remember when I was working at Etihad Service Entry when Neita, Bruce & Yze came through in hawks colours, I instinctively yelled out to OOze "your in the wrong colours" and he gave me a smile................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[deebug 1,754]

?No one looks good in brown & yellow.

[demoniac 1,333]

I believe Rod Grinter holds the prestigious position of Director Of Football at CBC Toorak.

 

I am one for the best candidate not the best ex Dees candidate.

[Gator 17,332]

Who cares ?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

So every former player that gets into coaching has to stay at the club?  Look what happened last time we gave gigs to former players within the club.  We had pretty much the worst season in AFL history.  You hire the people right for the job, regardless of where they played.  It shouldn't factor into the decision.

[layzie 33,796]

It's always nice to get our own back especially if they are the right guys for the job. I was stoked when Viney came back for instance. But its definitely gotta be best man for the job, can't get them all.

[Roger Mellie 4,023]

I think Bruce went to Carlton with the midget

[ding 5,126]

1 hour ago, demoniac said:

I believe Rod Grinter holds the prestigious position of Director Of Football at CBC Toorak.

 

I am one for the best candidate not the best ex Dees candidate.

Word.

If we want to be the best club possible, it means getting the best people in to call the shots.

The last boys club nearly killed us permanently.

[dieter 3,325]

2 hours ago, willmoy said:

My kids come home when they want something..........

Do a runner: NFA...

 

[Earl Hood 6,086]

I too support the concept that we need the best people not the best ex demons.

But I recently listened to an interview with Stan Alves on 774 with Matt Clench on Stan’s retirement from broadcasting the game. Stan said he no longer liked the modern game and called time on himself because he was not adding value. It was best for younger people to take over. Very honest appraisal. 

A a large part of the interview was about Stan losing his son early and the devastating affect that it had on him, very moving and instructional. But also how it motivated him later on. 

But another interest in the discussion was on his time as coach at St Kilda. He was a real innovator and took the Saints from nowhere to a Grand Final but was constantly being challenged by the Board about his unorthodox (at the time) tactics. Think leadership groups, meditation before games, letting players take responsibility for their own training, every player must set personal goals, it goes on and on reflecting modern football methods but maybe a decade or more ahead of his time. I thought Grant Thomas was a real innovator but I think he took a lot of ideas from Stan. 

They lost the final and the next year struggled somewhat and his enemies in the Board moved on him in 1998 and he was gone.And the Saints went downhill until 2009.

 What an opportunity for MFC to have bought him on board as an advisor for the Reverend? 

Stan came across as an exceptional person who would have added immense value to the MFC as assistant coach, mentor or Board Member. 

Another missed opportunity I believe but he could still fill a role on the board. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

5 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I too support the concept that we need the best people not the best ex demons.

But I recently listened to an interview with Stan Alves on 774 with Matt Clench on Stan’s retirement from broadcasting the game. Stan said he no longer liked the modern game and called time on himself because he was not adding value. It was best for younger people to take over. Very honest appraisal. 

A a large part of the interview was about Stan losing his son early and the devastating affect that it had on him, very moving and instructional. But also how it motivated him later on. 

But another interest in the discussion was on his time as coach at St Kilda. He was a real innovator and took the Saints from nowhere to a Grand Final but was constantly being challenged by the Board about his unorthodox (at the time) tactics. Think leadership groups, meditation before games, letting players take responsibility for their own training, every player must set personal goals, it goes on and on reflecting modern football methods but maybe a decade or more ahead of his time. I thought Grant Thomas was a real innovator but I think he took a lot of ideas from Stan. 

They lost the final and the next year struggled somewhat and his enemies in the Board moved on him in 1998 and he was gone.And the Saints went downhill until 2009.

 What an opportunity for MFC to have bought him on board as an advisor for the Reverend? 

Stan came across as an exceptional person who would have added immense value to the MFC as assistant coach, mentor or Board Member. 

Another missed opportunity I believe but he could still fill a role on the board. 

Mate had a dog called Stanley back in the early 70’s with a little Number 15 jumper. 

Met him a couple of times when he was Captain. Great guy. 

Was devastated when he and Crackers won a flag at Nought. 

Should have been us. Then Greg Wells left. 

 

Bitter ever since....

[Moonshadow 17,676]

4 hours ago, The Chazz said:

Does it break the hearts of Sydney supporters to see Ben Mathews at our club?

Geelong supporters to see Max Rooke with us?

North supporters to see Longmire coaching Sydney?

Was Green not captain of our club for 186?  I prefer to not have anyone that was associated with our club back then anywhere near our club nowadays.

I'm amazed at how many of our supporters love a good fairytale.

Bang on Chazz. Get the best available. Loyalty in AFL is an illusion

[DV8 2,271]

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

...What have they all got in common??

All have had significant experience as either TAC Cup, Assistant coach, Head coach APS coach or other football roles.

However most ARE WITH OTHER CLUBS ! WHY?

My point is all have been coached by either Barassi, Northey, Balme, or The reverend! all have had significant playing careers and so...

WHY AREN'T THEY WITH THE DEES in some capacity.?? I reckon they would be sensational as assistant coaches with us and lend a significant Brains trust of intrinsic footy knowledge and old fashion Dees values to our current players. Thoughts?

Simple, so we don't continue to be inbred, Re our development.

Outside footy people coming into our system, will notice the differences, and hopefully be able to pick the failings, compared to winning ways they have experienced at their former clubs.

 

They will hopeful recognise these idiosyncrasies that don't work well for us and then change them to improve us. 

 

Same for Off-Field, Re Admin and Boards.

So no, we don't want our old boys, coaching the new boys.    We are NOT a power club, and have not been for 5 decades.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Looks like you're on your own with this one, Picket

[Adzman 2,154]

I f we want to cultivate a premiership culture then we need to recruit coaches with premiership experience.

No point bringing our old crew back, they haven't tasted premiership success so how are they going to help build a premiership culture here?

[Pennant St Dee 13,173]

We had an old boys club in the mid noughties.

How did that go for us?

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12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Mate had a dog called Stanley back in the early 70’s with a little Number 15 jumper. 

Met him a couple of times when he was Captain. Great guy. 

Was devastated when he and Crackers won a flag at Nought. 

Should have been us. Then Greg Wells left. 

 

Bitter ever since....

I will never forget Crackers Fn Keenan hitting up on me at the 1st at Gisborne GC, almost hitting me. I don't think he took to well to a small overweight 16 yo calling him out on it.

Crackers bloody Keenan

[SFebes 4,884]

I said this in the Goodwin thread:

"He needs to be surrounded with more experience for a start, Rawlings should come back, Chaplin can go. I wouldn't mind seeing Adem Yze coming across from the Hawks and back to his old club, as well as Ratten and Scott Burns. Or perhaps raid Geelong for Knights or Scarlett to come meet up with Rooke and Egan.

He had Roos' team with Stone, Bird and co but they left, we need to give him the best opportunity to succeed, even if he isn't the right guy or continues his ways, before his contract runs out at end of next year. "

Yze would be the only Demon I'd look into and only because he's been in a successful Hawks system for a long time (2011). If I were the club I'd be trying everything to raid the successful clubs to surround Goodwin with.

[Deemania since 56 6,636]

13 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

I too support the concept that we need the best people not the best ex demons.

But I recently listened to an interview with Stan Alves on 774 with Matt Clench on Stan’s retirement from broadcasting the game. Stan said he no longer liked the modern game and called time on himself because he was not adding value. It was best for younger people to take over. Very honest appraisal. 

A a large part of the interview was about Stan losing his son early and the devastating affect that it had on him, very moving and instructional. But also how it motivated him later on. 

But another interest in the discussion was on his time as coach at St Kilda. He was a real innovator and took the Saints from nowhere to a Grand Final but was constantly being challenged by the Board about his unorthodox (at the time) tactics. Think leadership groups, meditation before games, letting players take responsibility for their own training, every player must set personal goals, it goes on and on reflecting modern football methods but maybe a decade or more ahead of his time. I thought Grant Thomas was a real innovator but I think he took a lot of ideas from Stan. 

They lost the final and the next year struggled somewhat and his enemies in the Board moved on him in 1998 and he was gone.And the Saints went downhill until 2009.

 What an opportunity for MFC to have bought him on board as an advisor for the Reverend? 

Stan came across as an exceptional person who would have added immense value to the MFC as assistant coach, mentor or Board Member. 

Another missed opportunity I believe but he could still fill a role on the board. 

Absolute respect for the man, the player, the Captain of MFC and the inspiration that he brought to the Club and the game. Stan was the full package and for years (just because he was younger then), I dreamed on him becoming the MFC Coach after Northey as the two, as coaches, players and leaders of men had so much in common. Alves in so many regards was always one of the historical past who generated immense pride (in a continuously losing team) and respect.