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I'll miss him. He's the thinking person's Mark Robinson, even down to the bogan voice. Love him or hate him, he's been working at a newspaper company struggling to move with the times and effectively stuck in no-man's land. As an example, it goes to print too early to include coverage of night football matches and hopes readers will jump online to catch up. Every one of those readers who goes online is potentially one less buyer of the newspaper. I don't blame the current management of Fairfax or The Age. It goes way back to the days of Ron Walker and Fred Hilmer who mistakenly did not believe the online world could ever replace print and didn't prepare accordingly.   

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  On 06/06/2017 at 11:37, Glenn Molloy said:

Rohan is actually a damn good footy writer.  I can recall an article he wrote about Balmey when he joined the Dees which was just about the best footy article I've read......

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that would be in 1993? 24 years ago? If he did write a good article that would have been the last.

His sychophantic ramblings over the Essendon saga were an embarrassment to writing

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  On 06/06/2017 at 11:13, Biffen said:

When that rag is finally wound up there will be a few cockroaches,a couple of rats, an abondoned tin of instant coffee and Caro remaining in the building.

 

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Not keen on Martin Flanagan?

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I've said it before, and will say it again.  As soon as we started making sports journalists "celebrities", the quality of the articles and the TV coverage turned to shite.  While he is far from the worst in it, RoCo is just another of the ambulance chasers that makes me cringe.

A majority of them are headline-chasing scum.  They lack accountability, and are nothing but hypocrites.

It's not just sports related either.  I remember that Charlotte Dawson being on a Brownlow Red Carpet "special" absolutely slating what some of the WAGS were wearing.  All of a sudden, she's being "trolled" on social media, which led to her taking her own life.  The outcry from all the do-gooders and tree-huggers was amazing.  Slobbo made his Twitter comments about Fasolo with zero consequence, yet would be up any player if they made the exact same comment.

If you don't like people doing it to you, perhaps start by not doing it to others, and using your apparent "fame" as a platform to do so.

As Cards said, the only ad thing about RoCo taking a voluntary redundancy is that we will have to put up with more of him on other outlets.

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  On 07/06/2017 at 00:27, The Chazz said:

I've said it before, and will say it again.  As soon as we started making sports journalists "celebrities", the quality of the articles and the TV coverage turned to shite.  While he is far from the worst in it, RoCo is just another of the ambulance chasers that makes me cringe.

A majority of them are headline-chasing scum.  They lack accountability, and are nothing but hypocrites.

It's not just sports related either.  I remember that Charlotte Dawson being on a Brownlow Red Carpet "special" absolutely slating what some of the WAGS were wearing.  All of a sudden, she's being "trolled" on social media, which led to her taking her own life.  The outcry from all the do-gooders and tree-huggers was amazing.  Slobbo made his Twitter comments about Fasolo with zero consequence, yet would be up any player if they made the exact same comment.

If you don't like people doing it to you, perhaps start by not doing it to others, and using your apparent "fame" as a platform to do so.

As Cards said, the only ad thing about RoCo taking a voluntary redundancy is that we will have to put up with more of him on other outlets.

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Chazz, I presume you don't mind being "trolled", shamed or criticised. If not, this has to be the most ironic post on Demonland ever.

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  On 07/06/2017 at 00:35, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Chazz, I presume you don't mind being "trolled", shamed or criticised. If not, this has to be the most ironic post on Demonland ever.

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Doesn't faze me.  If I put it out there for people to read, I expect that some won't agree.

Are you a journalist?

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  On 06/06/2017 at 22:22, Bitter but optimistic said:

I remember the days when Melbourne was blessed by having two decent (albeit in different ways) newspapers in the Sun and The Age. Days sadly passed I'm afraid.

Now The Orztralian leaves them both in its wake. The Weekend Oz clearly standing as the best 'paper going around.

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I have a strange visualisation of an  old codger attired salubriously  , pajamas wrapped in silk morning dressing gown, argyle slippers.  Bifocals adjusted to take in the home delivered news-sheet. English breakfast steeping  whilst a pair of 4 min eggs awaits digestion before kippers.

Never been the same since the Raj fell ...eh what !!

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Everything just about said.....lucky we live in a free society. Eh.

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  On 06/06/2017 at 10:20, ProDee said:

The Age

Who reads that rag ?

He'll no doubt increase his audience wherever he goes.

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Nick McKenzie (and Richard Baker) probably the best investigative journalists going around at the moment (in Australia at least). 

I guess if you're satisfied with the opinionated rantings of madmen you can stick to Newscorp. Others who want actual news do still read The Age even if it's production has declined in recent years.

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  On 06/06/2017 at 10:30, Biffen said:

I'm a big Clementine Ford fan.

I can't get through the day without  being told what an oppressive [censored] I am for being born white and male.

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She is an absolute moron. Same as Bolt, cut from the same cloth.

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  On 07/06/2017 at 01:32, Danelska said:

Why so much vitriol to journalists? 

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Not so much to Journalists ( real ones ) ...just the hack pretenders !!

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  On 07/06/2017 at 01:32, Danelska said:

Why so much vitriol to journalists? 

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For me it is their need to find/create/develop a story, and the lengths that they will often go to to do so.  It is also their inconsistencies in the reporting of a range of issues, depending on who can or will be impacted from doing so.  They thrive on the smell of blood, then lobby together when it's their own bleeding.

 

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  On 07/06/2017 at 01:56, The Chazz said:

For me it is their need to find/create/develop a story, and the lengths that they will often go to to do so.  It is also their inconsistencies in the reporting of a range of issues, depending on who can or will be impacted from doing so.  They thrive on the smell of blood, then lobby together when it's their own bleeding.

 

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i also don't like how they play favourites with players (and some club officials). Any players who doesn't play ball with them get crucified whilst those players who feed the media with lots of info and always give them time can get away with murder. Very little objectivity and cultivate a scratch-my-back mates club. then there is their totally compromised relationship with the afl. 

of course there are some exceptions but few and becoming fewer

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  On 07/06/2017 at 00:47, beelzebub said:

I have a strange visualisation of an  old codger attired salubriously  , pajamas wrapped in silk morning dressing gown, argyle slippers.  Bifocals adjusted to take in the home delivered news-sheet. English breakfast steeping  whilst a pair of 4 min eggs awaits digestion before kippers.

Never been the same since the Raj fell ...eh what !!

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never been the same since my butler stopped ironing the paper for me

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  On 07/06/2017 at 01:28, Dr. Gonzo said:

Nick McKenzie (and Richard Baker) probably the best investigative journalists going around at the moment (in Australia at least). 

I guess if you're satisfied with the opinionated rantings of madmen you can stick to Newscorp. Others who want actual news do still read The Age even if it's production has declined in recent years.

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What are they investigating ?

What were some of their recent stories you liked ?

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  On 07/06/2017 at 00:27, The Chazz said:

It's not just sports related either.  I remember that Charlotte Dawson being on a Brownlow Red Carpet "special" absolutely slating what some of the WAGS were wearing.  All of a sudden, she's being "trolled" on social media, which led to her taking her own life.  The outcry from all the do-gooders and tree-huggers was amazing.  

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I've read this paragraph half a dozen times now, and I can't see past an insinuation that because she did a piece on WAG fashion, she invited the twitter trolling to the point of suicide upon herself. Please tell me I have misunderstood.

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Journalists - trash or otherwise are humans too - he's got a redundancy and that may or may not be great for him...it certainly can suck for to get a redundancy if you're in Hazelwood, or Ford or, Alcoa etc etc - just think some of these posts are in poor taste - but perhaps I am just a snowflake... I guess it is a forum though, ...entitled to their opinions and all the jazz.

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The moment we have celebrity journalists, true journalism dies. Their reporting becomes influenced by their public persona. The only current sport journos I can think of who ask well-written, pre-prepared questions, and then write with clarity and intelligence are Gerard Whately and Mike Sheehan (who is no longer current).

Connolly was inarticulate, asked obvious questions, and was full of his own biases. 

Newspapers were once a strong, central part of information flow. Somewhere amid the IT era they have been decimated by online media and people with mobile phones. Who wants another person's view when we can have immediate footage? Perhaps those days when we had the Age for the left, Sun for populist, and Australian for the right,  we were able to strike a good balance from the journos. No longer. 

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  On 07/06/2017 at 03:25, Danelska said:

Journalists - trash or otherwise are humans too - he's got a redundancy and that may or may not be great for him...it certainly can suck for to get a redundancy if you're in Hazelwood, or Ford or, Alcoa etc etc - just think some of these posts are in poor taste - but perhaps I am just a snowflake... I guess it is a forum though, ...entitled to their opinions and all the jazz.

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The problem with those workers at Ford, Alcoa, etc, is that a lot of them have been doing the same job for 30-odd years, and they are often low skill jobs.  In recent times, a lot of these jobs have since been taken over by automation or from being shipped offshore.  These workers are in a terrible situation when job cuts are being made.

In a "profession" such as journalism, if you are made redundant from one place, you won't stay unemployed for long, especially if you are a decent one.  And given RoCo has other income-generating gigs, I'm sure that would ease the pain somewhat (especially compared to those industries you mentioned).

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  On 07/06/2017 at 03:20, Nasher said:

I've read this paragraph half a dozen times now, and I can't see past an insinuation that because she did a piece on WAG fashion, she invited the twitter trolling to the point of suicide upon herself. Please tell me I have misunderstood.

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She's inviting it because a. some of her comments were absolutely disgraceful, b. she chose to have a social media account that was accessible by the general public, and c. she chose not to block any "trolls".

Do I think that it's right?  Hell no.  But it's how society is, and if you are a public figure that has mental health concerns, platforms like Twitter aren't a great place for you to be.

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