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13 hours ago, monoccular said:

What would enhance Melbourne's finals chances would be to play four quarters every week.

Getti g tired of depending in others: fate helps those who help themselves. 

 

57 minutes ago, Melb16 said:

I do understand this 'cliche' and why it's used. However it's impossible. If we played '4 quarters every week' we'd finish top of the ladder, likely undefeated.

Name 1 team that plays their best every quarter every week.

It's about finding ways through the patches in games that you aren't. Hogan is important to being able to achieve this because he's a big body and a target that helps us hold our structure. That he kicks goals helps too.

And I understand your reservations about my 'cliche', so I will rephrase.

Until we play at our best for far longer periods within games (and between games) we will struggle.

One has to wonder just how much is physical / conditioning, and how much is mental / psychological.

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    Been told if he gets through training he plays this wwek

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    I have been told Hogan is playing QB.

    Also Gawn desperate to play. Has put his hand up, but club want to hold him back until R13.

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    10 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

    I have been told Hogan is playing QB.

    Also Gawn desperate to play. Has put his hand up, but club want to hold him back until R13.

    Interesting.

    I read an article just this morning that said he won't get up.

    Will be a huge boost if he does!

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    Really get the feeling when i read on here that these two blokes are really desperate to help, as it should be, so warm and fuzzy......

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    If hogan plays you get the feeling the boys will want to do well for him similar to how they responded against the crows, if that happens good luck pies 

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    The game as its played nowadays requires the players to go full steam.

    I wouldn't risk Max. Imagine him trying to give it all and run down a player and do damage to his healing hamstring.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, Grand New Flag said:

    I have been told Hogan is playing QB.

    Also Gawn desperate to play. Has put his hand up, but club want to hold him back until R13.

    Another 'GNF' punt???

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    29 minutes ago, brendan said:

    If hogan plays you get the feeling the boys will want to do well for him similar to how they responded against the crows, if that happens good luck pies 

    Golly gosh, if we're still a team that can only find motivation in these moments, or milestone games...

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    38 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Another 'GNF' punt???

    You have a better memory than me.  I don't know the nuances of most posters.

    You're suggesting this poster may be economical with the truth and making a calculated guess as they smell the breeze; and you're doing so on the back of previous "form".

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    Would it not be prudent to give Hogan a run at Casey next week to get his touch back?

    While it would be awesome to have him back for Q'bday, he's had a very stop start season and I can't help but think he'll be very under done for such a crucial game.

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    23 minutes ago, Danelska said:

    Golly gosh, if we're still a team that can only find motivation in these moments, or milestone games...

    Actually that's a great point.

    4 losses in a row at the G plus a  guaranteed spot in the 8 should be a motivation enough.

    Its annoying how we can't back up wins.

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    4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Would it not be prudent to give Hogan a run at Casey next week to get his touch back?

    While it would be awesome to have him back for Q'bday, he's had a very stop start season and I can't help but think he'll be very under done for such a crucial game.

    You'd only run a player of Hogan's calibre at Casey if he'd been out a long time and was badly out of condition, so you had doubts over his ability to run out a game. Hogan had a huge preseason, was in prime condition at the beginning of the season and has only been out a few weeks.

    He can find his touch in the ones. If he's feeling as fresh as I'm hoping, it won't take long.

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    9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Would it not be prudent to give Hogan a run at Casey next week to get his touch back?

    While it would be awesome to have him back for Q'bday, he's had a very stop start season and I can't help but think he'll be very under done for such a crucial game.

    Hogan might bit a bit stiff ( so to speak :unsure: ) and might not move quite as freely as he might like...but lose touch ?

    Touch is ( for mine ) right there with footy nouse.   You either have it..or you dont.

    The thing about  the when of Hogan back on the park is that when he does he's not a player you'd dare ignore as a coach. ...or suffer rectum duplicus  ?

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    1 hour ago, Danelska said:

    Golly gosh, if we're still a team that can only find motivation in these moments, or milestone games...

    ..we don't actually have a great record in milestone games, as I recall.

    We need to get Nike as a sponsor - JUST DO IT !

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    7 hours ago, monoccular said:

     

    And I understand your reservations about my 'cliche', so I will rephrase.

    Until we play at our best for far longer periods within games (and between games) we will struggle.

    One has to wonder just how much is physical / conditioning, and how much is mental / psychological.

    Yeh that's a fairer comment.

    I feel our lapses are more game plan based rather than effort. We can't expect our whole game to be based around being on top of contested possession. Because if we start losing it then we fall apart.

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    3 hours ago, doc roet said:

    The game as its played nowadays requires the players to go full steam.

    I wouldn't risk Max. Imagine him trying to give it all and run down a player and do damage to his healing hamstring.

     

     

    I agree, Gawn had a serious injury but I dare say the club would not risk him if there was a chance of re-injuring himself 

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    2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Would it not be prudent to give Hogan a run at Casey next week to get his touch back?

    While it would be awesome to have him back for Q'bday, he's had a very stop start season and I can't help but think he'll be very under done for such a crucial game.

    Absolutely not, to good to play 2's

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    He'll play if he gets through training... well no [censored]? As if that wasn't always going to be the case. 

     

     

    And if he doesn't play: GNF "late mail was he didn't make it through training"

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    3 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

    He'll play if he gets through training... well no [censored]? As if that wasn't always going to be the case. 

     

     

    And if he doesn't play: GNF "late mail was he didn't make it through training"

    Give us a spell

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    6 hours ago, Nasher said:

    You'd only run a player of Hogan's calibre at Casey if he'd been out a long time and was badly out of condition, so you had doubts over his ability to run out a game. Hogan had a huge preseason, was in prime condition at the beginning of the season and has only been out a few weeks.

    He can find his touch in the ones. If he's feeling as fresh as I'm hoping, it won't take long.

    If he plays, he will play most of the game close to goal, meaning he won't have to run as much and will straighten us up.

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    6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I've heard he'll play vs Collingwood but if he doesn't get selected then he won't play. 

    Based on your track record, I call bs.

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