Where there's smoke there's...

[Moonshadow 17,676]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There's a decent few in every club that does it mate.

Hogan is not the only one in our team that doesn't mind the occasional dart, and im not talking about Maxy.

Reckon your mate Clary would have one occasionally Dazzle

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

On 10/04/2017 at 3:54 PM, picket fence said:

Care to name names? I cannot believe in this day and age of accurate knowledge on the effects of smoking on the body that professional footballers much less any sportsman would smoke. Putting on my old Phys Ed Teachers hat,

Smoking is well-documented as a serious hazard to your health. It is also a serious hindrance to athletic performance, as it inhibits oxygen supply to your brain, heart and muscles. In addition, smoking decreases your body's capacity to heal, weakens your skeleton and raises your blood pressure. Athletes who smoke have less endurance, are weaker and suffer more injuries than their nonsmoking competitors.

Pulmonary Effects

Smoking has a pronounced effect on available oxygen in the body. The nicotine in cigarette smoke causes constriction of the bronchioles, which decreases the amount of oxygen that can enter the lungs. At the same time, nicotine constricts the blood vessels, decreasing the amount of blood flowing to the lungs. In addition, the smoke itself irritates the lungs, causing further bronchoconstriction. Carbon monoxide from smoke binds to hemoglobin, which would normally bind to oxygen, further decreasing the amount of oxygen the bloodstream.

Cardiovascular Effects

Smoking also limits cardiovascular performance. The heart depends on oxygen to function and, when oxygen levels are reduced, the heart is compromised. Nicotine's constriction of the blood vessels raises blood pressure and adds to the workload of the heart. Thus, athletes who smoke become fatigued faster than those who do not.

Musculoskeletal Effects

Smoking negatively affects the muscles and bones as well. During athletic activities, muscles need a constant supply of oxygen to perform. Smoking decreases the amount of blood flowing to the muscles. In addition, smoking lowers the amount of oxygen in the blood, further decreasing the muscles' ability to generate additional energy for movement.

Smoking increases a person's risk for osteoporosis. This effect is amplified in female athletes who already have a predisposition for osteoporosis. As the skeleton becomes more fragile, athletic activities become more dangerous due to risk of bone fracture.

Effects on Healing

Smoking causes the release of enzymes that break down collagen, a protein in skin and connective tissue. In addition, smoking slows the synthesis of collagen, which is necessary for healing. When tendons, ligaments or bones are injured, collagen fibers are integral to the healing process. Athletes who smoke will heal more slowly than nonsmoking athletes.

Long-term Effects

Smoking has immediate effects on athletic performance, but there are also long-term effects. Smoking causes lung cancer, emphysema, chronic bronchitis and asthma. These severe respiratory conditions can permanently end your athletic activities.

I would imagine the club would have explained these fact to players and given the professionalism expected If I were Goody I would not be at all impressed. But I have been known to be wrong!

So don't smoke then. But stop acting like a self righteous [censored]. Do you drink alcohol? I hope not. That's bad bad bad. Kills people, breaks up families, causes cancer. Nasty stuff. What about soft drinks? May as well just eat a bowl of sugar. I'm not comfortable paying taxes for your diabetes, so I'm glad you don't. Processed food? Hot dogs, dim sims, pies, maybe some KFC? Nasty again. Heart attack waiting to happen. I hope you've given that up. Wouldn't want to lose you young. And how about BBQ's? Carcinogenic, and what it does to your bowels isn't worth mentioning... except for the bit about how bowel cancer is a major killer... coz we eat so much crap. Not you. I mean other people. Probably the most important thing is that you don't drive a car or use electricity, because that would be really bad. Not only would you be creating pollution to breath yourself, but (even worse!) you'd be making others breath your second hand muck (and some of them are kids. Won't somebody think of the children!)

I'm not having a dig at you. I'm sure you live in the dark, ride a bike to your work every day, recycle your own farts to power you computer, and only eat organically grown lettuce and sunflower seeds fertilised with your own poop. I'd hate to think my admiration of you would lessen if I found out you were unmasked as a hypocrite, but I have faith in you, Picket.

 

Edited April 12, 2017 by Uncle Fester

[Adam The God 30,259]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

It panders to the outrage industry and one of the most pc periods of all time. 

The thought police are watching you. 

Anti-smoking is political correctness? Nah.

[pinkshark 950]

5 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

So don't smoke then. But stop acting like a self righteous [censored]. Do you drink alcohol? I hope not. That's bad bad bad. Kills people, breaks up families, causes cancer. Nasty stuff. What about soft drinks? May as well just eat a bowl of sugar. I'm not comfortable paying taxes for your diabetes, so I'm glad you don't. Processed food? Hot dogs, dim sims, pies, maybe some KFC? Nasty again. Heart attack waiting to happen. I hope you've given that up. Wouldn't want to lose you young. And how about BBQ's? Carcinogenic, and what it does to your bowels isn't worth mentioning... except for the bit about how bowel cancer is a major killer... coz we eat so much crap. Not you. I mean other people. Probably the most important thing is that you don't drive a car or use electricity, because that would be really bad. Not only would you be creating pollution to breath yourself, but (even worse!) you'd be making others breath your second hand muck (and some of them are kids. Won't somebody think of the children!)

I'm not having a dig at you. I'm sure you live in the dark, ride a bike to your work every day, recycle your own farts to power you computer, and only eat organically grown lettuce and sunflower seeds fertilised with your own poop. I'd hate to think my admiration of you would lesson if I found out you were unmasked as a hypocrite, but I have faith in you, Picket.

 

nice anti-anti-smoker rant.  I might commit that to memory and serve it up to a few.

[Gator 17,352]

23 minutes ago, A F said:

Anti-smoking is political correctness? Nah.

No-one is more anti-smoking than me.  I smoked for 14 years.  In the last 10 years that I smoked I smoked 60 a day.  I gave up cold turkey February 23, 1993 and have never had one since.   The date is poignant to me due to my incredible addiction to nicotine.  I had an ashtray on the tiled ledge outside my shower, because I smoked in the shower.   I smoked in bed before sleep and it was the first thing I did when I woke up. 

The tut-tutting over Hogan having a dart, when he's obviously not a smoker, but a young guy at a concert trying to be a 22 year old for a mere moment is beyond a joke.  Going home and escaping for a couple of days as he conteplates his Father's illness sheds light on the situation.  Does anyone here seriously think he's a regular, or problem smoker ?  

The outrage industry is alive and well and ready to judge or condemn at the drop of a hat. 

Edited April 11, 2017 by ProDee

[Adam The God 30,259]

7 minutes ago, ProDee said:

No-one is more anti-smoking than me.  I smoked for 14 yeard.  In the last 10 years that I smoked I smoked 60 a day.  I gave up cold turkey February 23, 1993 and have never had one since.   The date is poignant to me due to my incredible addiction to nicotine.  I had an ashtray on the tiled ledge outside my shower, because I smoked in the shower.   I smoked in bed before sleep and it was the first thing I did when I woke up. 

The tutt tutting over Hogan having a dart, when he's obviously not a smoker, but a young guy at a concert trying to be a 22 year old for a mere moment is beyond a joke.  Going home and escaping for a couple of days as he conteplates his Father's illness sheds light on the situation.  Does anyone here seriously think he's a regular, or problem smoker ?  

The outrage industry is alive and well and ready to judge or condemn at the drop of a hat. 

I agree with everything you've said in this post. It's not political correctness though.

And as I've said multiple times myself in this thread, the fact we're still talking about Jesse having a ciggie is pathetic.

[Redleg 40,925]

3 minutes ago, ProDee said:

No-one is more anti-smoking than me.  I smoked for 14 yeard.  In the last 10 years that I smoked I smoked 60 a day.  I gave up cold turkey February 23, 1993 and have never had one since.   The date is poignant to me due to my incredible addiction to nicotine.  I had an ashtray on the tiled ledge outside my shower, because I smoked in the shower.   I smoked in bed before sleep and it was the first thing I did when I woke up. 

The tutt tutting over Hogan having a dart, when he's obviously not a smoker, but a young guy at a concert trying to be a 22 year old for a mere moment is beyond a joke.  Going home and escaping for a couple of days as he conteplates his Father's illness sheds light on the situation.  Does anyone here seriously think he's a regular, or problem smoker ?  

The outrage industry is alive and well and ready to judge or condemn at the drop of a hat. 

Gerard Whately on 360 tonight said the same. He said it was just ridiculous that it was even a story.

[hardtack 10,537]

3 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

So don't smoke then. But stop acting like a self righteous [censored]. Do you drink alcohol? I hope not. That's bad bad bad. Kills people, breaks up families, causes cancer. Nasty stuff. What about soft drinks? May as well just eat a bowl of sugar. I'm not comfortable paying taxes for your diabetes, so I'm glad you don't. Processed food? Hot dogs, dim sims, pies, maybe some KFC? Nasty again. Heart attack waiting to happen. I hope you've given that up. Wouldn't want to lose you young. And how about BBQ's? Carcinogenic, and what it does to your bowels isn't worth mentioning... except for the bit about how bowel cancer is a major killer... coz we eat so much crap. Not you. I mean other people. Probably the most important thing is that you don't drive a car or use electricity, because that would be really bad. Not only would you be creating pollution to breath yourself, but (even worse!) you'd be making others breath your second hand muck (and some of them are kids. Won't somebody think of the children!)

I'm not having a dig at you. I'm sure you live in the dark, ride a bike to your work every day, recycle your own farts to power you computer, and only eat organically grown lettuce and sunflower seeds fertilised with your own poop. I'd hate to think my admiration of you would lesson if I found out you were unmasked as a hypocrite, but I have faith in you, Picket.

Brilliant...but can you please fix the spelling of lessen (from lesson)... I'm finding it to be a distraction.

[beelzebub 23,376]

There's no truth to the rumour Winfield want to talk to Jesse..

[old dee 23,791]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

There's no truth to the rumour Winfield want to talk to Jesse..

A back of jumper sponsor in the wings perhaps bb?

[beelzebub 23,376]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

A back of jumper sponsor in the wings perhaps bb?

Dunno.

Wonder how'd he'd look in a tux 

[old demon me!!! 108]

Oh no not Eddy as well , wont kick another goal for the year .

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

11 hours ago, monoccular said:

The cigar can wait until the evening of September 30th -- couldn't care less what they do that night in celebration.

willmoy - WADA are you suggesting?

Yep... got form

[picket fence 17,169]

11 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

So don't smoke then. But stop acting like a self righteous [censored]. Do you drink alcohol? I hope not. That's bad bad bad. Kills people, breaks up families, causes cancer. Nasty stuff. What about soft drinks? May as well just eat a bowl of sugar. I'm not comfortable paying taxes for your diabetes, so I'm glad you don't. Processed food? Hot dogs, dim sims, pies, maybe some KFC? Nasty again. Heart attack waiting to happen. I hope you've given that up. Wouldn't want to lose you young. And how about BBQ's? Carcinogenic, and what it does to your bowels isn't worth mentioning... except for the bit about how bowel cancer is a major killer... coz we eat so much crap. Not you. I mean other people. Probably the most important thing is that you don't drive a car or use electricity, because that would be really bad. Not only would you be creating pollution to breath yourself, but (even worse!) you'd be making others breath your second hand muck (and some of them are kids. Won't somebody think of the children!)

I'm not having a dig at you. I'm sure you live in the dark, ride a bike to your work every day, recycle your own farts to power you computer, and only eat organically grown lettuce and sunflower seeds fertilised with your own poop. I'd hate to think my admiration of you would lesson if I found out you were unmasked as a hypocrite, but I have faith in you, Picket.

 

Id invite you to my cave but I cant find my matches or candles! 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

On 4/11/2017 at 10:51 AM, deespicable me said:

It's a slippery slope Jesse is on.

Smoking to drugs to wanting to join Essendon in the off season.

?

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

15 hours ago, hardtack said:

Brilliant...but can you please fix the spelling of lessen (from lesson)... I'm finding it to be a distraction.

Done

[dazzledavey36 54,938]

20 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Reckon your mate Clary would have one occasionally Dazzle

Clarry like myself is no different to any other country lad that likes a beer and a social dart every now and then.

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

21 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

So don't smoke then. But stop acting like a self righteous [censored]. Do you drink alcohol? I hope not. That's bad bad bad. Kills people, breaks up families, causes cancer. Nasty stuff. What about soft drinks? May as well just eat a bowl of sugar. I'm not comfortable paying taxes for your diabetes, so I'm glad you don't. Processed food? Hot dogs, dim sims, pies, maybe some KFC? Nasty again. Heart attack waiting to happen. I hope you've given that up. Wouldn't want to lose you young. And how about BBQ's? Carcinogenic, and what it does to your bowels isn't worth mentioning... except for the bit about how bowel cancer is a major killer... coz we eat so much crap. Not you. I mean other people. Probably the most important thing is that you don't drive a car or use electricity, because that would be really bad. Not only would you be creating pollution to breath yourself, but (even worse!) you'd be making others breath your second hand muck (and some of them are kids. Won't somebody think of the children!)

I'm not having a dig at you. I'm sure you live in the dark, ride a bike to your work every day, recycle your own farts to power you computer, and only eat organically grown lettuce and sunflower seeds fertilised with your own poop. I'd hate to think my admiration of you would lessen if I found out you were unmasked as a hypocrite, but I have faith in you, Picket.

 

[Maple Demon 449]

13 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Not you getting into memes too, Moonie!

[old dee 23,791]

So what is the picture this weekend?

Bells is on?

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 4/10/2017 at 3:54 PM, picket fence said:

Care to name names? I cannot believe in this day and age of accurate knowledge on the effects of smoking on the body that professional footballers much less any sportsman would smoke. Putting on my old Phys Ed Teachers hat,

Smoking is well-documented as a serious hazard to your health. It is also a serious hindrance to athletic performance, as it inhibits oxygen supply to your brain, heart and muscles. In addition, smoking decreases your body's capacity to heal, weakens your skeleton and raises your blood pressure. Athletes who smoke have less endurance, are weaker and suffer more injuries than their nonsmoking competitors.

Agreed but a few the greats have Im sure. Perhaps Lockett and Ablettt senior. 

[dieter 3,325]

I recall a game at the Western Oval, Dees versus the Dogs, 1963. At three quarter time the public was allowed onto the oval to listen to the coaches, what have you.

I remember being astounded to find Alan Rowarth sucking on a Craven A like there was no tomorrow.

[daisycutter 29,616]

Just now, dieter said:

I recall a game at the Western Oval, Dees versus the Dogs, 1963. At three quarter time the public was allowed onto the oval to listen to the coaches, what have you.

I remember being astounded to find Alan Rowarth sucking on a Craven A like there was no tomorrow.

at least that was better than a capstan navy cut cork tip, dieter (but only marginally)

[daisycutter 29,616]

dieter, i'll bet you were an eckstein or ritmeester man

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

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