Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[TRIGON 4,719]

On 10/06/2017 at 6:18 PM, Redleg said:

We had the chance to take the All Australian CHB in Trengove's draft, but took Gysberts. I went to the MFC draft function thinking we would get Talia with our 3rd pick, as we knew the first two and was furious when I was told we would take Gysberts, who I didn't know anything of. I remember sitting there thinking gee I hope this Gysberts boy is good, as most knew Talia would be a very good player.

We have stuffed up so many picks before Taylor came, it would be comical, if it wasn't so sad. Destroyed any chance we had of recovering.

There too. Recall David Neitz - who had been a strong advocate for drafting Talia - going pale and almost falling over backwards when we picked Gysberts.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,463]

41 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

There too. Recall David Neitz - who had been a strong advocate for drafting Talia - going pale and almost falling over backwards when we picked Gysberts.

God I hate the ppl involved in the club at the time. Such amateurs!

Still can't believe BP has moved into other jobs in the AFL. He was incompetent!

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,219]

42 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

sounds ideal for a zone defence to me 

We have enough that can play that role we need someone that can play that role and shut down a power forward. I am yet to see whether can do part 2 as he is rarely exposed to them with Talia and Hartigan. Dont get me wrong he is quality but what we would need to pay (if you could convince him( for not being sure if he fits the role we need worries me.

[Redleg 37,748]

3 hours ago, TRIGON said:

There too. Recall David Neitz - who had been a strong advocate for drafting Talia - going pale and almost falling over backwards when we picked Gysberts.

Got to be happy now that we have Taylor heading up the recruiting. He is a nice bloke, who really seems to know his stuff, but without the arrogance. He will make mistakes as it is impossible not to and it is a given in AFL football, that not every draftee will make the grade. There is simply not enough room for them to anyway.

The main thing is to get most of the picks right and give yourself the maximum chance of bringing in talent that might make it.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Herald Sun are reporting that we are going to make a big play for Jake Lever:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jake-lever-and-daniel-mcstay-in-sights-of-victorian-clubs-in-this-years-trade-period/news-story/41488cc02f736fd6f6dc42a55b963898

Not surprising and, let's be honest, he would slot in superbly in our backline.  Very interested to see how this unfolds in the coming months.

[What 18,810]

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Herald Sun are reporting that we are going to make a big play for Jake Lever:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jake-lever-and-daniel-mcstay-in-sights-of-victorian-clubs-in-this-years-trade-period/news-story/41488cc02f736fd6f6dc42a55b963898

Not surprising and, let's be honest, he would slot in superbly in our backline.  Very interested to see how this unfolds in the coming months.

 

Words cant describe how big of a get Lever would be, for every reason imaginable.   

[brendan 3,390]

With the new cba nearly done I would be offering him a massive buddy type deal front end the crap out of it 

[fr_ap 2,148]

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Herald Sun are reporting that we are going to make a big play for Jake Lever:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jake-lever-and-daniel-mcstay-in-sights-of-victorian-clubs-in-this-years-trade-period/news-story/41488cc02f736fd6f6dc42a55b963898

Not surprising and, let's be honest, he would slot in superbly in our backline.  Very interested to see how this unfolds in the coming months.

Care to copy and paste? Cant get past the paywall

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, fr_ap said:

Care to copy and paste? Cant get past the paywall

Not allowed to mate, sorry.

The crux of the article is that we, along with others like the Dogs and Hawks, are interested in either Lever or McStay from Brisbane.  Mentions that Garry Lyon said Lever could be worth upwards of 800k.  Nothing suggests Lever wants out, just that his contract is up at the end of the year and he has delayed talks.

[fr_ap 2,148]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Not allowed to mate, sorry.

The crux of the article is that we, along with others like the Dogs and Hawks, are interested in either Lever or McStay from Brisbane.  Mentions that Garry Lyon said Lever could be worth upwards of 800k.  Nothing suggests Lever wants out, just that his contract is up at the end of the year and he has delayed talks.

No worries, cheers. Seems not a lot of substance to it then! We need to be wary of mortgaging our future on a player like this when trac, hogan, gawn and oliver are going to want massive paydays reasonably soon. That said, the CBA should increase so to what degree that effects the decision I'm not sure. Mahoney has shown he's a bit of a jet at this stuff so let's hope it continues.

[SaberFang 7,141]

5 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Care to copy and paste? Cant get past the paywall

Search 'Jake Lever and Daniel McStay' in Google and open the article at the top from there.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Not allowed to paste complete articles.

Copying 'bits' is fair go...with acknowledging source

[old dee 22,930]

On 04/04/2017 at 11:42 PM, Dappa Dan said:

He's fair dinkum exactly what we need. First rounder and a player.

First round pick and Weideman fits well for me.

[Scipio 5,868]

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

First round pick and Weideman fits well for me.

Weideman has virtually no currency at this stage OD.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

17 minutes ago, old dee said:

First round pick and Weideman fits well for me.

Then we'd need a replacement for Weed. We're thin on for KP forwards. Hogan for future, Pedo for the next few years. I'd love a third to rotate in so we can free up Watts to roam far and wide. Hulett not looking to good at this stage. In reality we probably need 2 more while Weed develops. Reid is the obvious target there, and if the papers today are to be believed, McStay as well. He's a KP defender, but has played forward a lot. I think he was recruited as a forward possibly.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

4 minutes ago, Luther said:

Weideman has virtually no currency at this stage OD.

According to the radio today, heaps of interest in McCartin, and Saints desperate to keep him. If McCartin has value, Weed has even more. He's younger and has done more.

I'm sounding a bit like a broken record, but since the Tom Lynch (Adelaide) trade a few years ago, teams will be very cagey when it comes to trading KP forwards 23 and under...

I suspect also the 2018 draft which is stacked with tall forwards might play a part in teams' plans. That's well into the future of course.

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

14 hours ago, fr_ap said:

No worries, cheers. Seems not a lot of substance to it then! We need to be wary of mortgaging our future on a player like this when trac, hogan, gawn and oliver are going to want massive paydays reasonably soon. That said, the CBA should increase so to what degree that effects the decision I'm not sure. Mahoney has shown he's a bit of a jet at this stuff so let's hope it continues.

It seems like the Herald Sun, listens to what Gary Lyon and Tim Watson say on SEN, then add 20% and report it as credible news. Really just sports tabloids. 

I agree that we need to make sure we've got enough in the kitty for the players you've mentioned plus we've still got a few out of contract this year that I'd liked to be tied up sooner rather than later, in particular Salem. If we could manage to make sure we don't cause ourselves future salary cap issues, then Lever would be a great get at the right price of course. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,177]

Who do we have on our list from SA?

Trengove

ANB

Stretch

Kennedy

Vince

 

Wold they consider a first rounder + ANB or Stretch??  Maybe not.

First and second round pick?

 

 

[McQueen 17,864]

14 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Who do we have on our list from SA?

Trengove

ANB

Stretch

Kennedy

Vince

 

Wold they consider a first rounder + ANB or Stretch??  Maybe not.

First and second round pick?

 

 

If Jake wants to play for Melbourne they'll have suck up whatever we offer/give them.

Edited June 15, 2017 by McQueen

[Jaded No More 58,274]

13 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Who do we have on our list from SA?

Trengove

ANB

Stretch

Kennedy

Vince

 

Wold they consider a first rounder + ANB or Stretch??  Maybe not.

First and second round pick?

 

 

Stretch is the only player with serious future potential on the list.

They'd literally slam the door in our face if we offered any of the others. We also don't have a lot of currency if we want to trade future picks, as I think most clubs will bank on us finishing top 8 next year.

I would love Lever, and believe we are one KPD away from being a serious premiership threat, but I don't think we have much to trade, and since he isn't a free agent, it could get tricky!

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,177]

3 minutes ago, McQueen said:

If Jake wants to play for Melbourne they'll have suck up whatever we offer/give them.

I agree it's usually weighted in favour of the destination, but most times there's a reasonable trade finalised.

[old dee 22,930]

1 hour ago, Luther said:

Weideman has virtually no currency at this stage OD.

Sadly correct but they are a bit thick over in SA I was hoping they might fall for it.

[old dee 22,930]

1 hour ago, Dappa Dan said:

According to the radio today, heaps of interest in McCartin, and Saints desperate to keep him. If McCartin has value, Weed has even more. He's younger and has done more.

I'm sounding a bit like a broken record, but since the Tom Lynch (Adelaide) trade a few years ago, teams will be very cagey when it comes to trading KP forwards 23 and under...

I suspect also the 2018 draft which is stacked with tall forwards might play a part in teams' plans. That's well into the future of course.

When DD? I have seen nothing yet to suggest he is more than an ok VFL player.

[Sir Why You Little 34,612]

Do we know what Mr. Lever has in mind for his future, or is he driving Managerial spin at this point?

[old dee 22,930]

32 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Who do we have on our list from SA?

Trengove

ANB

Stretch

Kennedy

Vince

 

Wold they consider a first rounder + ANB or Stretch??  Maybe not.

First and second round pick?

 

 

If you parcelled all that lot up and paid there salaries I doubt the Crows would take the bait TPF39