A place called home

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

19 hours ago, A F said:

Didn't PJ announce earlier in the year that we've given up all our pokies?

You might be thinking of the club's decision to cease any relationships with online bookmakers. That was announced during this year. 

[Moonshadow 17,471]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

There is plenty of vacant land in the vicinity of Romsey Manor.

An ideal location for our social hub. I would even donate some entertainments.

We could have a picnic at Hanging Rock.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

People need to understand that if we were actually a semi-decent team over the past 10 years our presence in Casey would be far stronger.

Not to the levels of the Western Bulldogs out west but much stronger than it is now.

[Biffen 12,808]

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

We could have a picnic at Hanging Rock.

Bitters still looks obese in a Victorian corset.

[Moonshadow 17,471]

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

Bitters still looks obese in a Victorian corset.

At Hanging Rock he'd go missing like Gary Rohan in the GF.

[Adam The God 29,327]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You might be thinking of the club's decision to cease any relationships with online bookmakers. That was announced during this year. 

I can't be sure, but my recollection was that the wording was carefully chosen to make it sound like we'd ceased these relationships altogether. But perhaps I misinterpreted. That's been going on a bit lately.

[Macca 16,603]

Our home is the MCG.

It's our home regardless of how many other teams play their home games there.  The other teams have their own facilities anyway.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2016 by Macca

[McQueen 17,864]

Where were the celebrations held following past premierships?

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,603]

47 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Where were the celebrations held following past premierships?

 

The Long Room inside the MCC according to my dad and often back at Players Houses...

[McQueen 17,864]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Long Room inside the MCC according to my dad and often back at Players Houses...

Sounds like both have major capacity limitations.

[Sir Why You Little 36,603]

Just now, McQueen said:

Sounds like both have major capacity limitations.

Different times Steve

[dpositive 1,649]

When we win it will be time to reclaim the MCG.

many of us will be at the ground and as the car park clears we can fill it with supporters from every direction.train road bus all come to focus on the city.. From the grounds we can then disperse all over Melbourne proud in our colours  and able to command the recognition of our club that will build our membership

[DV8 2,271]

On 03/10/2016 at 9:17 AM, Flamingdees said:

Was valued at 9M when we took it over in 2011 on a 10 year agreement. 

Land alone would have to be worth a crap load. 

Would be an awesome cash grab for the club if we could develop it and sell it off. 

Only at this moment.  It can crash anytime it needs to.  Sell high.  If we can.

[CBDees 3,165]

Why can't we build a second grandstand at Punt Road and paint it RED & BLUE? After all, the Tigers were the first Club that we allowed to share the "G" with us and surely they owe us? The second grandstand would help with capacity and benefit both Clubs (& maybe the Government could chip in like they did with the Tiges)! Couldn't possibly be a better post-match location (even better than the bars at the "G")!

[old dee 23,486]

30 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Why can't we build a second grandstand at Punt Road and paint it RED & BLUE? After all, the Tigers were the first Club that we allowed to share the "G" with us and surely they owe us? The second grandstand would help with capacity and benefit both Clubs (& maybe the Government could chip in like they did with the Tiges)! Couldn't possibly be a better post-match location (even better than the bars at the "G")!

Because Richmond don't have to share and don't want to.

Lets all get used to the idea that unless the "Docklands dream" gets up we will be in our current situation for the foreseeable future.

[jackaub 1,402]

17 hours ago, old dee said:

Because Richmond don't have to share and don't want to.

Lets all get used to the idea that unless the "Docklands dream" gets up we will be in our current situation for the foreseeable future.

Old Dee  there must be other options

Like develop Gosches paddock ah la Punt Road

Albert Cricket ground St Kilda Road (MCC venue) Only takes vision and money 

[old dee 23,486]

Just now, jackaub said:

Old Dee  there must be other options

Like develop Gosches paddock ah la Punt Road

Albert Cricket ground St Kilda Road (MCC venue) Only takes vision and money 

Sadly jack unless the docklands or Eddies grand MCG plan gets ups there are no alternatives.

Have you been to the Albert ground?

It is a postage stamp that is barely big enough for cricket, it is smaller than the old Glenferrie and there is no room for buildings around the ground.

The current situation IMO is not stopping us playing finals of winning a GF.

Win Games and you will not care where we train IMO it is that simple.

 

[Dee Dee 1,099]

What exactly is the problem with our current training setup?

Goschs paddock seems to be perfectly acceptable and was re-surfaced at considerable cost when we moved there. And the training facilities at AAMI stadium are excellent. I toured the place a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised and had my enthusiasm endorsed by a couple of players. A far better facility than the Junction Oval (which is being re-developed by Cricket Victoria as their admin and playing base anyway).

In a perfect world we would train at the MCG, but it isn't going to happen. Maybe in the future a stand alone training facility will be developed in the docklands area (as has been mooted), but for the moment our training facility is quite acceptable and within a short walk to the MCG.

[Wells 11 5,264]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Sadly jack unless the docklands or Eddies grand MCG plan gets ups there are no alternatives.

Have you been to the Albert ground?

It is a postage stamp that is barely big enough for cricket, it is smaller than the old Glenferrie and there is no room for buildings around the ground.

The current situation IMO is not stopping us playing finals of winning a GF.

Win Games and you will not care where we train IMO it is that simple.

 

Do you think any of these would deliver Melb a training ground? Its a real question. Somehow I cant see Eddie having that in his mind as he visions this. Id like to think its a possibility though. 

[old dee 23,486]

19 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Do you think any of these would deliver Melb a training ground? Its a real question. Somehow I cant see Eddie having that in his mind as he visions this. Id like to think its a possibility though. 

From my memory it did exactly that.

[DeeSpencer 24,687]

North, Rich, Carl and the Dogs are at their traditional homes.

Hawthorn and Essendon are big enough to have moved out. St Kilda weren't but are running back home.

Collingwood have invaded and taken over Olympic Park. But the last time they won the flag they had a similar set up as we did using a public oval for training with facilities next door.

I really think we need a home for our women's team, for the possibility of a standalone VFL team and for a base for the fans. But I'm not sure we are big enough or brave enough to pull off an outer suburb mega complex like Hawthorn and Essendon.

I'd be constantly harassing/surveying opportunities with every council, school and university in or close to our heartland area about the possibility of a shared development. Monash Uni - Caulfield or Clayton, Melbourne Uni - Parkville or Burnley, Melbourne Grammar - Todd Rd, Scotch College, Albert Park, Fawkner Park, Elsternwick park. 

We need an oval that can be fenced off one day a week with facilities for a small crowd of 5-10k and then we need a building with fitness facilities - that can be public access - and offices.

The top private schools are all investing millions in to their football programs. There could be a mutually beneficial relationship to build an elite gym and grandstand in return for access to the oval. The bulldogs have a great relationship with Victoria Uni and I know we've got something with Melb Uni. 

It has to be explored and I hope it is, there's certainly not an easy answer.

 

 

[jackaub 1,402]

47 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Do you think any of these would deliver Melb a training ground? Its a real question. Somehow I cant see Eddie having that in his mind as he visions this. Id like to think its a possibility though. 

Wasn't just a training ground requirement being spoken of, more of a home where supporters could develop a spiritual relationship

[Grimes Times 1,278]

On 10/3/2016 at 4:26 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

The Long Room inside the MCC according to my dad and often back at Players Houses...

Believe the players would also parade the cup in the bullring by walking around with it on top of the bar during celebrations after the game.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

On 10/2/2016 at 0:51 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Totally agree 'Of'!  I put this in another thread a few hours ago:

"It made me realise that we the only club that doesn't have a 'heartland - a geographic area and suburban oval to call home.  Think: Punt Rd oval, Victoria Park, Princes Park, Waverley, Kardinia Park, Arden St, Windy Hill, and soon Moorabbin oval for the Saints etc. 

Gosch's paddock and Casey Fields just don't cut it. 

When we win the Premiership we will certainly flock to somewhere but its sad that our great club does not have an obvious geographic place to call home - a place which is ours and nobody else's; a place that means something to the locals as well as to us die hard dees fans".

So I think it is not just our own football oval we lack, we lack a geographic region, a 'heartland' connected to our club.  Somehow we surrendered the inner Melbourne heartland.  Even with the new AFL 'Next Generation' Academy we don't get any of it back.  It mainly goes to Essendon with a small bit to Geelong and St Kilda.

The only real opportunity I see to have anything like the other clubs is to work with whoever 'owns' Toorak Park (where we hold some family nights) to have a strong presence.  It is where the club is trying to rebuild our 'heartland' support but it has no historical connection to us.  Altho' that could change if it was renamed the 'Robbie Flower Oval' and we trained there. 

Failing that we are destined to be nomads.

I have been advocating this for years. Toorak Park is next to transport..it is in the middle of our heartland, which is, like it or not, Toorak, South Yarra, Malvern, Armadale and down to the Bayside suburbs...that's where we should be based. 

 

Toorak plays host to the Prahran Footy Club, Old Xavs, Prahran Cricket Club and Melbourne Rugby Club. 

 

Robbie Flower Oval and the Jim Stynes Social Club..it could all be so good..we need to explore it. 

[CBDees 3,165]

3 hours ago, Dee Dee said:

What exactly is the problem with our current training setup?

Goschs paddock seems to be perfectly acceptable and was re-surfaced at considerable cost when we moved there. And the training facilities at AAMI stadium are excellent. I toured the place a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised and had my enthusiasm endorsed by a couple of players. A far better facility than the Junction Oval (which is being re-developed by Cricket Victoria as their admin and playing base anyway).

In a perfect world we would train at the MCG, but it isn't going to happen. Maybe in the future a stand alone training facility will be developed in the docklands area (as has been mooted), but for the moment our training facility is quite acceptable and within a short walk to the MCG.

It's not our training venue which is the issue; it is where (?) to head off to to celebrate after we win the Grand Final!