1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

We need more long term guaranteed best 22.  We don't need more Bugg or Kennedy or slightly better versions of them.  We need very good players who will push Vandenberg and Garlett down to depth.  We should be chasing Mitchell and Hartlett.  We have enough talented youth coming through.  I'd be happy to put next year's 1st on the table.  It's self-fulfilling, with Mitchell and/or Hartlett in our team we finish higher.

Fifty 5 I am somewhat surprised about your constant banging on about Hartlett. He is extremely inconsistent and even at his best the cost versus output just doesn't stack up for me. Aside from that I am not entirely sure what role he plays he is a mid yes and reasonably rounded but not a great inside or a great outside. Nice penetrating kick but not necessarily effective. Taking players like Hartlett for overs smacks of the Richmond and North approaches of recent years that seem to make you look better but not set you up to go all the way.

Mitchell on the other hand I get but the cost versus adding another inside mid (granted a bloody good one) just doesn't make sense.  

2 hours ago, Tony Tea said:

Deledio said he wanted to be a one-club player. He's going.

Parting words for sure

I know he's recently re-signed, and he may not have been gettable, but I would have loved to see Rohan join our squad.

 

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Jeez people on here overrate Melksham. What are his credentials as a backman?

Hardly sighted 2016 season, 0 contested possessions, 0 intercept marks, 0 metres gained, needs to lift.

Just now, deespicable me said:

Hardly sighted 2016 season, 0 contested possessions, 0 intercept marks, 0 metres gained, needs to lift.

but 0 clangers, 0 frees-against and wasn't once beaten by any opponent 

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jeez people on here overrate Melksham. What are his credentials as a backman?

Goodwin would have a fair idea I would have thoughts 

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jeez people on here overrate Melksham. What are his credentials as a backman?

Hunt was still a prospect when Melksham was targeted and Wagner was brought in for insurance.

He's an upgrade on Wagner anyway but the back flanks will be a contested position with Hibberd also now on his way.

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Hunt was still a prospect when Melksham was targeted and Wagner was brought in for insurance.

He's an upgrade on Wagner anyway but the back flanks will be a contested position with Hibberd also now on his way.

Whilst there will be contest for the half back position, I think the expectation is that this will allow us to use some of these guys in advanced attacking positions. ie. It's likely Hunt or Melksham or Salem will play on a wing. This means we'll push out some of our fringers like Bugg and even Harmes. And if those two guys improve their game's, they'll put pressure on that half back or wing position and give us some happy headaches.

I'm beginning to think we'll need to strengthen our half forward role players, as Kennedy, Harmes, Garlett yoyoed in and out of the team this year. Kent kicked goals but was his usual wildly inconsistent self (which still makes him a question mark for mine). This is an area of the ground that needs new personnel. At least, better competition for spots from legitimate AFL players.

I wonder if we'll look at GWS or GCS small forwards/hapf forwards?

Edited September 24, 20168 yr by A F

12 minutes ago, A F said:

I wonder if we'll look at GWS or GCS small forwards/hapf forwards?

Maybe a Will H-E?

15 minutes ago, A F said:

At least, better competition for spots from legitimate AFL players.

So now we also need to make sure that the players we bring in know both birth parents, gee taking the culture thing a bit far

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Goodwin would have a fair idea I would have thoughts 

Also McCartney, from his one season at Essendon.

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5 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I know he's recently re-signed, and he may not have been gettable, but I would have loved to see Rohan join our squad.

 

Rohan Bail? I'm not so sure about that! Hopefully the doggies get up this arvo Ron, I'd reckon it would be hard living in Sydney this wk with two Syd teams in the grannie

So anyone heard any whispers about possible players the club is into? Or are people just stating who they want the club to draft or trade in?

We've tagged a small forward from the u18s as some sort of zone selection or something. If he doesn't get drafted he goes to us as our final cat b rookie. 

Pretty sure the rumours of us being into Hibberd are solid. 

There have been a few rumours in the media about Vardy, but that seems to have tapered off. 

Last year one of the coaches said that we were done bringing in top end talent and our success would come from developing the players we now had. This would indicate a quiet trade period.

Edited September 24, 20168 yr by RalphiusMaximus

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

We've tagged a small forward from the u18s as some sort of zone selection or something. If he doesn't get drafted he goes to us as our final cat b rookie. 

Pretty sure the rumours of us being into Hibberd are solid. 

There have been a few rumours in the media about Vardy, but that seems to have tapered off. 

Last year one of the coaches said that we were done bringing in top end talent and our success would come from developing the players we now had. This would indicate a quiet trade period.

I think that's code for: we aren't a destination club, so we go the youth pathway.

6 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I think that's code for: we aren't a destination club, so we go the youth pathway.

i think it's code for "we don't leak".

39 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

i think it's code for "we don't leak".

Thats true as well, lately.   Good to see no evil, hear no evil, until the goods are produced.

 

* oh, do you mean onfield we don't leak, anymore. 

Melbouurne used to have a very bad case of incontinence, onfield.

Edited September 24, 20168 yr by DV8

41 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

i think it's code for "we don't leak".

Not since Moloney

9 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Fifty 5 I am somewhat surprised about your constant banging on about Hartlett. He is extremely inconsistent and even at his best the cost versus output just doesn't stack up for me. Aside from that I am not entirely sure what role he plays he is a mid yes and reasonably rounded but not a great inside or a great outside. Nice penetrating kick but not necessarily effective. Taking players like Hartlett for overs smacks of the Richmond and North approaches of recent years that seem to make you look better but not set you up to go all the way.

Mitchell on the other hand I get but the cost versus adding another inside mid (granted a bloody good one) just doesn't make sense.  

It depends on whether you're glass half empty or half full.  He's capable both inside and outside.  He is inconsistent but his best is match winning.  He can play HB, wing, HF and take his turn in the square.  And he has an x-factor with his kicking.

The cost?  What's this huge cost - a pick somewhere around 10?  It might be Dangerfield or Kane Lucas.

Edited September 24, 20168 yr by Fifty-5

9 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I know he's recently re-signed, and he may not have been gettable, but I would have loved to see Rohan join our squad.

 

Why?

i can't understand the love for this guy, his career averages are very ordinary, from every perspective. I watched him in the final against GWS and his skill level was atrocious. 

11 hours ago, DV8 said:

I think that's code for: we aren't a destination club, so we go the youth pathway.

another thing is because of the way the Hogan situation sits and the raft of young players we have we can't afford to make huge offers to outside stars unless they fit perfectly. 

if Jesse leaves it would be awful for the club, but the picks we got, say pick 3 and another first rounder we could offer up and try and bring in someone like Tom Mitchell and go to the draft and add another young player. 

11 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

It depends on whether you're glass half empty or half full.  He's capable both inside and outside.  He is inconsistent but his best is match winning.  He can play HB, wing, HF and take his turn in the square.  And he has an x-factor with his kicking.

The cost?  What's this huge cost - a pick somewhere around 10?  It might be Dangerfield or Kane Lucas.

Hartlet's on massive coin so Port might find it tough to move him on. 

Handy player though. 

I occasionally open this thread to read a "trade whisper".

You get anything but. 

And yes, I've just added to the "but".

Edited September 25, 20168 yr by ProDee

As some have asked: Will H-E or Won't H-E?

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