14 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I don't think Brisbane will be given a Priority Pick for the same reasons we were not.  If memory serves correctly, one thing the commission considered was the potential in the playing list; with that in mind, when fully fit there is some elite talent in the Brisbane line-up, especially their midfield.  The have drafted very good key position players at both ends of the ground and have a very good spread of young and underdeveloped talent.  What they need is assistance in developing this talent in a strong, well funded and supported environment.  That's where the AFL can, and should assist them.

The way it's been worded by the commission in the past, I only think they'd give one if a player died.

 

 

They've also had more walk out on them over the years compared to us.

It was only a few years ago that Polec, Yeo, Docherty, Longer and Karnezis left the club.

Experience of Leuenburger, Redden and Adcock missing and Dayne Beams not getting on the park must make it very hard.

They have nowhere near the young talent or depth we have.

Just now, McQueen said:

They've also had more walk out on them over the years compared to us.

It was only a few years ago that Polec, Yeo, Docherty, Longer and Karnezis left the club.

Experience of Leuenburger, Redden and Adcock missing and Dayne Beams not getting on the park must make it very hard.

They have nowhere near the young talent or depth we have.

No, but I'd say they have more talent on their list than we had when we last asked for one.

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

No, but I'd say they have more talent on their list than we had when we last asked for one.

It was only a couple of years ago that the footy media thought they'd cleaned up with Beams, Robinson, Christensen etc.

Remember that Melbourne across ten years of misery gained only two priority picks in total. Pick 1 and Pick 17 - Tom Scully and Sam Blease.

And let's be honest, you could've thrown in Dustin Martin and Nic Naitanui and we still would've been a basket case.

And they can moan about not having any top picks out there all they like - the reason is they used them to trade in Dayne Beams, Allen Christensen, Ryan Bastinac, Brendan Fevola and Travis Johnston. They all have a huge collection of early-second-round picks out there. (Coincidentally, another sample in my argument for trying to go 'high-low' in drafts)

Of course, they've had some injury problems this season which make it look even worse than it is, but right now at a club level you could give Brisbane the first four picks in the draft and it would only put a gauze over the gaping stomach wound.

 

 

My position always was the AFL, in rejecting our application, set a precedent and it is incumbent upon them if they are to maintain a grain of integrity, to follow that precedent and continue to reject PP applications until confronted with a situation worse than the one we faced two and three years ago,

Naturally, this isn't about maintaining integrity and in any event, you can't maintain what you don't have in the first place.

The AFL just make it all up on the fly. Total joke 

The shine must be fading on those Premiership Cups.

I prescribe brasso/ silvo and a new coach

Suck it up Brissie. We did.

And they got a whole bunch of Academy players quite cheaply in the last few years (and will get more this year).  In 2014 under the old system they got three highly rated players with their ordinary late picks.  Don't know what they have done with them all. 

To worsen their problems after the mass youth exodus they put in a rookie senior coach - not a good idea especially when the club is a basket case. 

The AFL said last week they are tipping in a few mill to help them play their full cap and get better facilities.  And will get more (extra) for debt next year as part of new TV Rights.

That is enough extra help!

Edited August 9, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

This is a sham. They last played finals in 2009 and have only been horrid the last few years. We have been putrid for a decade!!

They sold the farm for beams and lost. They can climb out the hard way like everyone else.

Brisbane need to make a massive offer to Roosy, i don't think he'd go and i'd be dissapointed if he did go to another side, but they NEED someone like that to save that club.

19 minutes ago, Abe said:

Brisbane need to make a massive offer to Roosy, i don't think he'd go and i'd be dissapointed if he did go to another side, but they NEED someone like that to save that club.

Mick Malthouse. LOL

It would be bull [censored] of the highest order.

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

They've also had more walk out on them over the years compared to us.

It was only a few years ago that Polec, Yeo, Docherty, Longer and Karnezis left the club.

Experience of Leuenburger, Redden and Adcock missing and Dayne Beams not getting on the park must make it very hard.

They have nowhere near the young talent or depth we have.

Why did all those players walk?

I would be fixing that first. 

They don't need a priority pick, they need structural change and extra room in the salary cap, even if temporarily, to retain their talent, while they get their act together. 

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Either Gold Coast or The Bears have to go

no Sporting club survives on The GC anyway

If they were ever to have a 2nd team in Qld, then they needed to make it a North Queensland and split their games between Cairns & Townsville with possibly one game a year in Mackay.

Edited August 9, 20168 yr by AngryAtCasey

3 hours ago, McQueen said:

They've also had more walk out on them over the years compared to us.

It was only a few years ago that Polec, Yeo, Docherty, Longer and Karnezis left the club.

Experience of Leuenburger, Redden and Adcock missing and Dayne Beams not getting on the park must make it very hard.

They have nowhere near the young talent or depth we have.

They gave Adcock his marching orders. Was up there with what we did to Junior.

Edited August 9, 20168 yr by AngryAtCasey

They need Mr Roos. 

 

 

Maybe 10 million a year might swing it..? 

A PP won't fix the issues, as it wouldn't have with us. From what Gill said, it sounds like the AFL is more interested in something similar to what they did for us; fix the off-field and the on field will follow

They won 3 flags in last 15 years. Paid the world for Beams, Christenson, Bastinac ect and hired a [censored] coach and now they are crying poor for a PP? Will continue to damage the reputation of the game if they get it

You can give them the top 10 picks in the draft and it won't make a difference if they can't retain them, it's well known their training facilities are well below par, their coach is imo not up to it, they have made irresponsible recruiting decisions over the past 3-5 years

I can't think of a single young player they've had/have that's been well developed, even Taylor and Mayes have stalled or gone backwards.

much like with us i think they need the AFL's help to secure a capable coach who can help change the culture of the club, Roos would be the first choice, but unlikely, so perhaps someone like Bomber Thompson, teach the young guys, and develop them and see if they can sort out the facilities.

 

8 minutes ago, Mickey said:

A PP won't fix the issues, as it wouldn't have with us. From what Gill said, it sounds like the AFL is more interested in something similar to what they did for us; fix the off-field and the on field will follow

Well spotted Mickey. That's exactly how I read it. 

Gil mentioned having the right people running the club. (apologies to ProDee if I didn't quote verbatim)

I don't necessarily think they are a lock for a priority pick. But if they do request one, I honestly believe we should show an immediate response that matches theirs from a few years back, where they led the "no way" chorus, to protect their own early picks. How did the argument go back then? Something like, "Melbourne created their own mess through mismanagement, let them fix it themselves"

 

Yeah, fair enough. Lets see Brisbane try the same approach, aided by some AFL injected management.

• Get a good coach, CEO and head recruiter/list manager. 
• AFL to tip money into training and club facilities. 
• Build a culture.

All of these are a MUST before a PP. One player will make small difference.

We did it, albeit with the help of the AFL.

Having said that, our first pick this year will be around 25 (pending player trades), so if Essendon miss out on pick one and Brisbane get one and three, I for one will let out a hearty laugh!

I couldn't care less if they get a PP. We aren't in the first round. It isn't going to affect us all that much. We will probably offload our second rounder anyway. Good on Brissy if they get a PP. However, I would argue that Brisbane aren't in their current position due to a lack of talent - but more so retaining the quality talent they did have. I am not sure a priority pick is going to solve any long term issues. They have had guys like Yeo, Docherty and Polec leave the club. That probably suggests there are some broader issues they need to get right. Much like us prior to PJ.

5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Brisbane should definitely be given a priority pick (and will be). While we should have also been given a priority pick two years ago, it wasn't possible given our tanking history. And so the AFL over compensated us when Frawley left.

The current discretionary priority pick system is a shemozzle and the AFL needs to rejig the draft give the 10 non finalists two picks prior to the other teams.

Brisbane can eat a box of turds, hope they get exactly what they wanted us to get, jack shite

Briisbane : Priority pick for Dees 'inappropriate'
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-25/we-had-no-help-voss

Who cares if they get one. They're an absolute basket case and one extra draft pick ain't going to solve their problems.

6 hours ago, McQueen said:

The AFL were wise enough to realise the issues at the MFC were far greater than what the benefit of a PP or two might offer a rebuilding club and installed PJ and Roos to right the ship. Our list was terrible but it's really only taken 3 years to turn it around.

They've got their academies to supplement the list. Now they need some wise old heads to rectify the issues at their club.

Agreed - I wouldn't be against a PP but I don't think it will really help. They've already got their academies, they just need to wait for those kids to come through. If the AFL want to help they can start by funding their training facilities/HQ and getting a competent CEO. Leigh Matthews should be removed from making FD decisions also.