POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 18

[titan_uranus 24,965]

28 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Don't give me any positive [censored].   Once again we proved what a spiritless [censored] up club we've become.

I appreciate you are frustrated, as you should be, but you do not hold West Coast to their lowest home differentials in time in forward half and inside 50s without spirit.

Spirit was there. Skill was not, when needed.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I hate blaming umpires, but....

Shannon Hurn could have sunk one into row Z, but as soon as we barely touch one and it trickles over the line it gets pinged. Absolutely ropable.

I know, I know, we should have put the game away, but some of those decisions in the last were dumbfounding.

[Return to Glory 8,411]

1 minute ago, Unleash Hell said:

Wow no one can find positives.

We just pushed last yrs gf team to the limit in wa with a young team and no one can find any positives.

Am I [censored] we lost...hell yeh, but if we dont play any worse then that going forward we are going to start winning more then we lose

You're probably right you optimistic [censored]. Get stuffed.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Just now, Return to Glory said:

You're probably right you optimistic [censored]. Get stuffed.

You're right i dont belong on Demonland 

[Pates 9,658]

3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I don't think he's overated as such. He's just not 100℅ committed. When you aren't days like today show that up. Watts had a classic post contact announcement game ( wtf is it with that )

The commentary on the radio seemed generally positive about his game, wasn't his usual impact but still worked hard. 

We lost it going inside 50 and front of goal, kicked ourselves in the ass. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

1 minute ago, xarronn said:

 

I am extremely disappointed that we didn't win, we bloody well should have, but there is no way that today's performance proved we are a spiritless club.

Short on skills - definitely, but not short on spirit today.

I'm over hearing this stuff - I've heard it for [censored] years.

Once again- for all our "spirit" - and toss in effort potential or any other [censored] thing you like - we are "short on" the four points.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

6 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

BBO I agree, it's a shitsandwich and we can put a bit of mayo on it but it's still a shitsandwich. Give me a few hours and I'll find some positives.

"You can't polish a t urd, but you can roll it in glitter" might be appropriate here RTG.

[John Demonic 5,736]

I think you're meant to go from being flogged away v west coast, to losing in a close one, before winning the next one. You don't skip the second step. 

Most clubs when developing, have to learn how to win close ones by losing most if not all of them. Once again, you don't just skip this step and win every close game.

This club is full of children. I can't expect them to have the mindset of successful teams yet. As a 32 year old with the mindset that KNOWS how to win games from watching our club in 94,98,00, 06, these players don't have that experience, even from watching. Some players are born in 1996-1998 lol.  This club is like watching a toddler taking steps for the first time. Need to fall over first.

Edited July 23, 2016 by johndemons

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

I cant help sit here and wonder if all those who continually complain that "the scoreboard flattered us" after a loss are now going to chalk this up as a win because the scoreboard flattered them? 

[beelzebub 23,313]

1 minute ago, Pates said:

The commentary on the radio seemed generally positive about his game, wasn't his usual impact but still worked hard. 

We lost it going inside 50 and front of goal, kicked ourselves in the ass. 

Watts had climbed the stairs to start imposing himself on games. I dont see that he did that today, slipped a cog. Just saying

[Chris 2,892]

2 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Wow no one can find positives.

We just pushed last yrs gf team to the limit in wa with a young team and no one can find any positives.

Am I [censored] we lost...hell yeh, but if we dont play any worse then that going forward we are going to start winning more then we lose

Probably because if we did we would get the mass of posters complaining that winning is the only option and that by seeing improvement in a loss is part of the problem as we would be accepting mediocrity. It isn't worth the fight. Every sane person saw a great effort today from the boys with some obvious issues that will be addressed in time. 

[Ricky P 757]

It was a fair old choke. 30 more inside 50s, 100 more possessions, ball was in our half for two thirds of the game and we missed a lot of pretty easy shots for a side that's the most accurate kick for goal in the comp.

Fourth time we really could've beaten a top side (North, Hawthorn, Adelaide and now WC) but we weren't mentally tough enough to do it.

But we're a very young side. As WJ said, we'll be winning these games by 4 or 5 goals next year.

[Gorgoroth 12,918]

On a positive, Petracca will be a game breaker. He is a cut above.

[Damo 3,343]

Hogan is not sure what to do. He makes a lead and the ball goes to another pocket. If he is around a contest in the forward line he doesnt engage the fight on the ground for it. In fact unless he is in the mood he wont get too close to the contest. It looks like he is saying "Im over here"!
 Unless he has a sore back he has to get down and dirty. Watts did it, Jesse has to do it.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Franky_31

[The heart beats true 18,095]

5 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

I hate blaming umpires, but....

Shannon Hurn could have sunk one into row Z, but as soon as we barely touch one and it trickles over the line it gets pinged. Absolutely ropable.

I know, I know, we should have put the game away, but some of those decisions in the last were dumbfounding.

I would love to see Hurns 2-3 to the boundary compared to the frees paid. I literally couldn't believe he got away with them in the context of what's been paid this season. I hope the club at least asks the question.

[jumbo returns 6,737]

Turnovers.

That is all.

Game over.

[Soidee 1,496]

I don't care what anyone says, Tom McDonald  for all his good points is the dumbest and brainless footballer on our list.  His turnovers when not under pressure cost us games so often.  I'm over him, he needs some good old fashioned tough love from the coaching staff.  

The umpires are just pathetic and almost corrupt at that ground, something needs to be said, however my anger is at McDonald and his brain fades....we cannot rely on him if we ever make finals FFS!!!!! 

[Rosco 10]

Although deflated - shows that we have the potential to be a dominant force in the future. 

Watts had to be moved into the midfield in the last quarter for that link up handball and utilise his disposal, would have won us the game. 
Not sure if hogan played today

[Jaded No More 68,855]

This game is like someone cut my chest open, ripped my heart out, handed it to Tom McDonald and said "save her by kicking this heart into this 700m wide pile of fluffy cushions"... And he misses. 

FML!

[Demonsone 2,032]

3 reasons why we lost....

1 Missed too many shots

2 Macdonald cant hit a target, which resulted in turnovers & goal! How this guy thinks he should get a larger contract when your kicking results in turnovers is beyond me!

3 Umpires disgraceful free kicks kept WC in the game....I counted 3 goals as a result!

[DemonOX 8,779]

So $500k buys u a dude who can't even kick a point. 

Awesome!!

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Watts had climbed the stairs to start imposing himself on games. I dont see that he did that today, slipped a cog. Just saying

The only thing stopping him was a few inches with hus shots on goal missing. Dry weather probably would've kicked 3.

[Ricky P 757]

3 minutes ago, Soidee said:

I don't care what anyone says, Tom McDonald  for all his good points is the dumbest and brainless footballer on our list.  His turnovers when not under pressure cost us games so often.  I'm over him, he needs some good old fashioned tough love from the coaching staff.  

The umpires are just pathetic and almost corrupt at that ground, something needs to be said, however my anger is at McDonald and his brain fades....we cannot rely on him if we ever make finals FFS!!!!! 

McDonald had a good game today.

[The heart beats true 18,095]

8 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Wow no one can find positives.

We just pushed last yrs gf team to the limit in wa with a young team and no one can find any positives.

Am I [censored] we lost...hell yeh, but if we dont play any worse then that going forward we are going to start winning more then we lose

I'll tell you why I can't find positives...

Because it was typical Melbourne. We need a poor game against St Kilda to spur us into action. I said last week it wouldn't surprise me if we got to within 3-4 goals this week as it would be bloody typical of our efforts after poor games. We have to be able to stop momentum in games and make the difference in the moment and we couldn't do it last week. It shouldn't take a week of being ripped by coaching staff to motive the playing group. You could tell by the 4 changes that the coaches were very dissapointed with the Saints game. Only a win this week would have made the difference (like it did against Geelong last year). 

[Biffen 12,940]

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Watts had climbed the stairs to start imposing himself on games. I dont see that he did that today, slipped a cog. Just saying

The smother in the last was as good as it gets. The resulting missed shot was average by Dawes.

watts was huge in the last quarter.

Unbelievable repeat efforts.