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Just now, stuie said:

Posters bagging Lumumba and M.Jones but not saying anything about Viney, Brayshaw, Kent, Hogan, Garland, McDonald and vandenBerg who were all poor today... It's like you just copy and paste the same names without actually watching the game.

I would drop Hogan after his effort and attitude today. Can't baby him anymore, if he's going to sook and never give a second effort then he can learn better habits at Casey for a few weeks.

 

Read my previous comments on Brayshaw Hogan Kent McDonald Garland and Bugg. All of them were horrible and downright embarrassing.

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Tell you what has to change.... that's Kent, Hogan and Salems lazy arse attitude to playing at the highest level. They would be my first 3 outs. Hogan... whinge whinge whinge ....stay in goal square, call for ball on a platter, dont lead. Kent hands on hips, dont man up in any defensive situations, running forward of the ball when he is needed at the contest (outnumbered). Salem was just a complete flake/fake today. Take your pick. Lazy footballers all 3 and should be quickly shipped off to the magoos to earn their call up again...if they make it!

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2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Read my previous comments on Brayshaw Hogan Kent McDonald Garland and Bugg. All of them were horrible and downright embarrassing.

Wasn't directed just at you. Just noticed it with a few posters.

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5 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Matt Jones is a tard of the highest order and every coach has thought otherwiae and given him more and more opportunity...he is useless. Get rid of him. Banish him..never to pull on the jumper again. Unless its a Casey one

Jones one of our best and consistent.

Leaders in Vince, Viney, N Jones, Garland, Lumumba were absolutely smashed by inexperienced kids. We got clearances but played lazy, unaccountable football. 

They were embarrassingly flat and played like the 2014 Demons.

David King said that if Melbourne didn't win, they hadn't improved.

Today was a massive gauge of where this club is at. They failed the test. Badly.

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Melbourne FC@melbournefc 4m4 minutes ago

Roos: I thought Lumumba's effort to come back in was good. I thought playing him was the right move and playing Brayshaw was the wrong one.

Then why didn't we make a late selection.. FMD! Stretch is fit and firing and would have added run and dash. But no we go for a slow inside mid that hardly got a touch.

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3 minutes ago, Coup Cooper said:

Triple M worst votes.

3 Tom McDonald (Towelled up by Daniher.. Again!!)

2 Jack Watts (no tackles)

1 Jack Viney (opposing players had 30+ he had 17 went at 59 percent)

Garland is very stiff to miss out on votes

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The coaching was non existent. Why weren't there more players manning up on their players, particularly Daniher. Why does macdonald try to punch the ball every time (and fails) instead of trying to outmark his opponent? Essendon were flooding their back line every time it got down our end. We just left multiple Essendon players free in their forward line all the time. Hogan was not leading out properly at all. They had space with multiple linked up marks along the boundary several times. They were faster, harder at the contest, and they are bigger bodied. They spread and got away from our players with ease. Brayshaw looks like he's carrying an injury still. And the umpiring was criminally incompetent.

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Our midfield was defensively deplorable today. Kent Brayshaw and VandenBerg should be on the table for a run in VFL. 

Our ur coaches need to teach TMac how to get under players skins to throw them off the game.

Gawn got smashed today, needs to stop talking about himself being the best and focus more on the team, as does Hogan.

Garlett and BenKen as good as always

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41 minutes ago, olisik said:

Joke of a decision not to play Dunn. Seriously  15 [...] marks to Daniher and they decide to leave our most experienced tall defender out for Lamumba 

I'm sorry, but what would Dunn have contributed? He's practically the same height as Garland and McDonald. In fact, I think he's shorter than McDonald.

Lumumba looks ordinary when we don't work hard, but he did look good a couple of times when we took it from end to end.

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I don't like the cockiness of some supporters and hope

the players aren't thinking the same way.

This will be the big effort by Essendon this year, first game at the G, in front of the masses,

showing their support of their club and their players should give the really big effort. 

I have seen so many games end in disappointment for us.

We need to play at our best in every game, otherwise we will suffer.

For me the win is paramount, if that happens, a big one would be great.

 

Oh yeah.

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15 minutes ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Listened to 882 here in Perth and the Essendon barracking drove me nuts, why is there no disdain for this mob?

King had to be heard to be believed.

He admitted at one point that he was "half barracking" for Essendon. Giggled after every Bombers goal. Almost exclusively commentated on what Essendon was doing, good or bad. And to top it off, stated "we believe in Joe" in his summation at half time.

I've never heard more one sided tv commentary, ever. Dwayne included. And it's Essendon ffs. King must really, truly hate Melbourne.

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Just now, AdamFarr said:

I'm sorry, but what would Dunn jave contributed? He's practically the same height as Garland and McDonald. In fact, I think he's shorter than McDonald.

Lumumba looks ordinary when we don't work hard, but he did look good a couple of times when we took it from end to end.

His our most experienced tall defender who knows how to throw opposition forwards off their game for starters. MacDonald is often towelled by tall forwards and has lost us games on numerous occasions like the Cloak incident last year.

That has never happened to Dunn. TMac needs to grapple more and grab and nudge ect like all the good back men do. 

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I'm in no way blaming the umpires but they also seemed to heavily favour them today. Some really soft decisions at critical moments.

I can't understand anyone talking up Lumumba. He was terrible. But he had plenty of mates.

 

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne FC@melbournefc 4m4 minutes ago

Roos: I thought Lumumba's effort to come back in was good. I thought playing him was the right move and playing Brayshaw was the wrong one.

Then why didn't we make a late selection.. FMD! Stretch is fit and firing and would have added run and dash. But no we go for a slow inside mid that hardly got a touch.

I don't recall you making one peep about Stretch in the leadup. Stop carrying on as if it was obvious; he was never in the frame. As if it would have had a huge impact anyway when the whole midfield played garbage.

Roos comment is obviously in hindsight. He clearly didn't think selecting Brayshaw was an error at the time or he wouldn't have selected him. 

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1 minute ago, olisik said:

His our most experienced tall defender who knows how to throw opposition forwards off their game for starters. MacDonald is often towelled by tall forwards and has lost us games on numerous occasions like the Cloak incident last year.

That has never happened to Dunn. TMac needs to grapple more and grab and nudge ect like all the good back men do. 

WTF and give a free kick away?

I understand that McDonald is dumbass but his main problem is he plays off his man way too much and doesn't pay enough respect to his opponent.

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2 minutes ago, P-man said:

King had to be heard to be believed.

He admitted at one point that he was "half barracking" for Essendon. Giggled after every Bombers goal. Almost exclusively commentated on what Essendon was doing, good or bad. And to top it off, stated "we believe in Joe" in his summation at half time.

I've never heard more one sided tv commentary, ever. Dwayne included. And it's Essendon ffs. King must really, truly hate Melbourne.

King hates Roos. It's not a Melbourne thing. He absolutely loathes Roos' coaching style.

When was the last time we won by more than 6-7 goals? I think against GWS in 2012. We beat them by 80-odd and then by 30+ in the second outing. 2013, 2014, 2015...We have dominated and smashed a team in four years. Out biggest win under Roos has been 39 points. Every other win has been <33 points.

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41 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I don't even know what to say about that performance.  I really thought the players would see it as a terrific opportunity to smash a team and go 2-0 to start the season.

And we serve up rubbish.  I'm laying the blame solely at the feet of the players today.  They didn't run hard, no appetite for the contest and allowed them to do as they pleased.  I continually thought the players would take some responsibility at each break and look to make amends.  We did so briefly in the last... and then we fell over and completely lost the plot.  

I'm positive at the best of times but I can't take anything out of that game.  Nothing.  Maybe Kennedy was a positive.  Vince and Jones had a dip.  But outside of that the only word that comes to mind was 'putrid'.

Yep, deplorable. I could only name those three players as well and upon reflection Jeffy too. What an indictment on the rest of the team. Some of Gawn's tap work today was bewildering.

I think those players owe the supporters big time.

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