JUDGEMENT DAY - THE "BOMBER" 34

[Lucifers Hero 37,227]

The AFL sanctioned EFC and Hird for 'poor governance'.  Since then Worksafe found them guilty of an unsafe workplace and CAS found the players guilty of drug cheating.  Surely, the AFL has to go back and raise new sanctions against EFC based on this new evidence.

The AFL decision on this, Watson's brownlow and removing EFC from the ANZAC day game, will be telling.

Can't help but think the AFL they will stoop to new lows in spin, whitewash and camouflage to protect EFC and the AFl 'brand'. 

 

Edited January 12, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[old dee 22,952]

36 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

According to the news James Hird described the outcome as "a miscarriage of justice"! FMD!

Standing on the beach expecting the tide to cease?

[old dee 22,952]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

The AFL sanctioned EFC and Hird for 'poor governance'.  Since then Worksafe how found them guilty of an unsafe workplace and CAS found the players guilty of drug cheating.  Surely, the AFL has to go back and raise new sanctions against EFC based on this new evidence.

The AFL decision on this, Watson's brownlow and removing EFC from the ANZAC day game, will be telling.

Can't help but think the AFL they will stoop to new lows in spin, whitewash and camouflage to protect EFC and the AFl 'brand'. 

 

Please do not hold your breath LH

[Red and Bluebeard 2,044]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Well bb happy to say you were right and I was wrong. Excellent result .

I'll be very cautious next time OD mentions wet tram tickets -- seems like putting enough of them together makes a missile 

[old dee 22,952]

1 minute ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

I'll be very cautious next time OD mentions wet tram tickets -- seems like putting enough of them together makes a missile 

They were issued R and B but made from C4

[old dee 22,952]

1 minute ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

I'll be very cautious next time OD mentions wet tram tickets -- seems like putting enough of them together makes a missile 

They were issued R and B but made from C4

[CBDees 3,162]

2 hours ago, CBDees said:

 

EFC, the AFL and other effected Clubs (such as us, Port Adelaide and St. Kilda) should all now move on and plan for the coming season (by upgrading rookies etc). What shouldn't be allowed to happen is for the AFL to intervene and soften the penalty by allowing the EFC twelve top-up players. By doing so, they effectively would unfairly penalise the VFL and other Clubs where they would seek to source their top-up players.

I completely disagree in relation to "topping up". Essendon should be forced to play the season with a reduced list of 32 rather than have them raid other (VFL) Clubs of their best players. Essendon have not done too bad out of this as:

1) they have off-loaded 22 players so have a far less impact;

2) they have been let off 12 months of their two year ban (due to their farcical 4.5 month voluntary off-season suspension when they continued to train;

3) they have effectively improved their list by trading five players for first and second round draft picks (and transferred the penalty to other Clubs)!

As regards the collateral damage to other Clubs, (Dee's, PA, Saints and Dogs), that is a calculated risk that we each took in relation to our list needs and it will not be the end of the earth if we promote White early than planned. 

Why should Essendon (as a Club) emerge from this with even further reduced penalties? NO WAY Jose!

[mauriesy 6,829]

At the back of the CAS judgement is an outline of costs. Costs of the arbitration have to be paid by the players (75%) and the AFL (25%), plus a figure of 30,000 Swiss Francs (A$42,800) to be paid by the 34 players and the AFL to WADA for its investigation.

Could be several thousand dollars per player as well as other income losses etc. I wonder if Essendon is going to cough up for the player's costs.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,044]

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

They were issued R and B but made from C4

And served up with wet lettuce coated in acid? 

[olisik 4,060]

St Kilda kick off the year with an extra win and massive percentage boost ahead of us now.

 

2016 season already a farce and it hasn't even started.

[Coup Cooper 610]

Can't wait to smash these flogs round 2!! Two in a row here we come!!

[faultydet 7,593]

Winners are grinners.

 

Drug cheats can please themselves.

[olisik 4,060]

3 minutes ago, Coup Cooper said:

Can't wait to smash these flogs round 2!! Two in a row here we come!!

Hate to be the one to say it but we lost against their top up team last year...

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

21 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The AFL sanctioned EFC and Hird for 'poor governance'.  Since then Worksafe found them guilty of an unsafe workplace and CAS found the players guilty of drug cheating.  Surely, the AFL has to go back and raise new sanctions against EFC based on this new evidence.

The AFL decision on this, Watson's brownlow and removing EFC from the ANZAC day game, will be telling.

Can't help but think the AFL they will stoop to new lows in spin, whitewash and camouflage to protect EFC and the AFl 'brand'. 

 

Surely you can't be in any doubt as to any of this?

(Although I think they will, with great reluctance, eventually, remove the Brownlow.)

[H_T 2,941]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Good for the sport. Got what they deserved! Suck ot Essenscum.

Again absolutely filthy that this is the price we paid for giving up a 2nd rounder (could have gotten Balic, Tucker, Mathieson and Collins) for a player that i did NOT want. Got howled down for it and the same people have gone silent on this matter.. funny that.

 

You're sweating the small stuff on Melksham, for the elephant in the room may well be the coach in waiting for the club.

[biggestred 4,357]

Well as if we didn't know it before but the AFL PA have proven themselves now to be a complete joke.

[old dee 22,952]

My is it that I cannot stop smiling today?

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

9 minutes ago, olisik said:

St Kilda kick off the year with an extra win and massive percentage boost ahead of us now.

 

2016 season already a farce and it hasn't even started.

This is the damage that EFC have inflicted on the game. Disrepute, terrible publicity, huge legal bills, and a skewed fixture. Three  years already, another year to come, and christ knows what other fallout.

For years to come, we will be reading extra snippets about the disgraceful behaviour of 2012 that emerge in the various court proceedings.

[DeeMfc 621]

Saad got 18 months for drinking a sports drink supplement. 

They got off light IMO....

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

AFLPA press conference. AFLPA can't understand how CAS could get it so wrong. Didn't they read the AFL tribunal decision???

You see, it seems the players were duped and did everything in their power to find out what they were given and whether it was prohibited.

Oh, and the AFL should divorce themselves from WADA.

[H_T 2,941]

2 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

This is the damage that EFC have inflicted on the game. Disrepute, terrible publicity, huge legal bills, and a skewed fixture. Three  years already, another year to come, and christ knows what other fallout.

For years to come, we will be reading extra snippets about the disgraceful behaviour of 2012 that emerge in the various court proceedings.

A stain on the game that will last forever. Hird and the like - reputations damaged forever. 

[monoccular 16,290]

30 minutes ago, old dee said:

Standing on the beach expecting the tide to cease?

Like King Canute (yes, I was very careful with the spelling)

21 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

At the back of the CAS judgement is an outline of costs. Costs of the arbitration have to be paid by the players (75%) and the AFL (25%), plus a figure of 30,000 Swiss Francs (A$42,800) to be paid by the 34 players and the AFL to WADA for its investigation.

Could be several thousand dollars per player as well as other income losses etc. I wonder if Essendon is going to cough up for the player's costs.

 

Maybe Slater and Gordon can resurrect themselves by running and winning a class action by the players against EFC

6 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Surely you can't be in any doubt as to any of this?

(Although I think they will, with great reluctance, eventually, remove the Brownlow.)

How about Hird's Brownlow - he has brought the game into unimaginable disrepute.?

[binman 38,838]

7 minutes ago, H_T said:

You're sweating the small stuff on Melksham, for the elephant in the room may well be the coach in waiting for the club.

This from McDeviit:

“The CAS result brings this matter to a close and ASADA looks forward to continuing to work with all sporting codes to promote a clean and fair sporting environment.”

I can't see them pursuing anyone else. 

Really interesting presser actually. It can be read in full here: https://www.asada.gov.au/news/court-arbitration-sport-decision-essendon-players

[old dee 22,952]

1 minute ago, Ted Fidge said:

AFLPA press conference. AFLPA can't understand how CAS could get it so wrong. Didn't they read the AFL tribunal decision???

You see, it seems the players were duped and did everything in their power to find out what they were given and whether it was prohibited.

Oh, and the AFL should divorce themselves from WADA.

It is the players Union TF why are you expecting any different?

The question is where were they when this was happening to their members?

I bet no one asked that questioned.

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

My is it that I cannot stop smiling today?

I thought you were like that every day, Mr Old, though I do admit you've got some extra incentive today.