Speaking of Mitch White what has happened to him? The reports were that he was having a fantastic pre season and now has suddenly vanished?

Edited March 1, 20169 yr by dazzledavey36

11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree good start for Wagner. I still have Mitch White as the first backup for a half back spot behind Lamumba, Salem and Grimes

 

11 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Speaking of Mitch White what has happened to him? The reports were that he was having a fantastic pre season and now has suddenly vanished?

dazzle - you have asked my question.

where is White?

I thought Wagner was far more impressive than Hunt on Saturday.  Yes, he does need some more size, but has the required frame to do that.  Just seemed to have time and composure, some creativity too.

20 hours ago, monoccular said:

 

dazzle - you have asked my question.

where is White?

In the 426 basket.

1 hour ago, The Third Eye said:

In the 426 basket.

What's wrong with him? Haven't heard anything about his injury at all...I figured he'd just fallen into the abyss somewhere between Casey and Gosch's. 

For a player who got 14 possessions today which included 5 changers and cost us at least two goals I thought he did ok. I really liked the way he didn't drop his head. He kept going, looking for players on the move and eventually a few things worked for him. Despite looking like he was plucked from the Sound of Music cast he also seems to have a fair bit of toughness about him. Another competitor. 

Like most here I don't believe he is in contention for a round one spot but perhaps will prove more than handy long term

2 minutes ago, fndee said:

For a player who got 14 possessions today which included 5 changers and cost us at least two goals I thought he did ok. I really liked the way he didn't drop his head. He kept going, looking for players on the move and eventually a few things worked for him. Despite looking like he was plucked from the Sound of Music cast he also seems to have a fair bit of toughness about him. Another competitor. 

Like most here I don't believe he is in contention for a round one spot but perhaps will prove more than handy long term

Agree 100% with your comments...

I don't know how many times today I got him mixed up with Jack Watts from certain angles.... I must have been channeling Sandy Roberts!

Plenty to work with....

Happy to be proven wrong down the track but he doesn't look AFL standard to me.

The old man started watching in the 2nd half and thought Wagner was great. It's good to see him bounce back from a bad first half. 

I think the fumbles and disposal issues will sort themselves out with more opportunities and less nerves. He can kick a footy, just a matter of doing it at AFL level.

Defensive ability and speed are my concerns. I think needs one or the other to be valuable. But he can get more game speed by being more confident. 

No issue with the way he attacked the contest once, especially once he started to win a few. That's a big positive.

8 hours ago, Sylvia Saint said:

Happy to be proven wrong down the track but he doesn't look AFL standard to me.

I think you are too hard.

interesting question--he is a rookie isn't he? Which of the rookies will be elevated? At this stage I would prefer Wagner

He just doesn't seem clean enough with his hands. Double grabbed a lot. I know its early but not seeing much there to think he will be a regular. 

This is his first full AFL game and i put down his first half to simply to nerves adjustment to the tempo.

In the 2nd half he was alot better and seemed to adjust well because his awarness and kicking was a whole lot better. Has a crack which is good to see.

Can't see him being in round 1 though. Needs time at Casey.

Edited March 13, 20169 yr by dazzledavey36

He's a young skinny kid, instead of dropping his head and going into his shell he found some composure and had a decent last quarter.

He's a work in progress, needs to refine his game at Casey but there is a lot to work with.

he's developing nicely, just needs more time. i can see good things down the road. bagging him at this stage is just classic mfcss

consider where he has come from. neafl, no tac academies, rookie listed, limited pre-season (only coming in after draft), change of state etc

worth a re-look at his draft highlights video

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

he's developing nicely, just needs more time. i can see good things down the road. bagging him at this stage is just classic mfcss

consider where he has come from. neafl, no tac academies, rookie listed, limited pre-season (only coming in after draft), change of state etc

worth a re-look at his draft highlights video

Hell get time to refine his game in the Magoo's. We're learning how to develop.... at last !!

1 hour ago, Farmer said:

I think you are too hard.

interesting question--he is a rookie isn't he? Which of the rookies will be elevated? At this stage I would prefer Wagner

I think that I his year we can promote two Rookies due to Melksham.

Wagner is renowned for picking up the tempo in the last Stanza.

 

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He's a work in progress, needs to refine his game at Casey but there is a lot to work with.

 

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

he's developing nicely, just needs more time. i can see good things down the road. bagging him at this stage is just classic mfcss

consider where he has come from. neafl, no tac academies, rookie listed, limited pre-season (only coming in after draft), change of state etc

worth a re-look at his draft highlights video

Yeah, one can't expect him to be AVB.

Big chance to play HBF though for us, we don't have an abundance of good kicks coming off the backline.

If Salem gets injured...

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Wagner is renowned for picking up the tempo in the last Stanza.

 

Needs to add a few more strings to his bow, blah blah blah.....

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Wagner is renowned for picking up the tempo in the last Stanza.

 

or spraying the field with agent orange...

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Wagner is renowned for picking up the tempo in the last Stanza.

 

Oh yes Biff. Humour hasn't left that craggy visage of yours just yet.

So with a LARGE sample size of 5 games.  I'm going to make a big call that this guy will be as important as any player going forward.

In wins against Collingwood, Tigers and GC, he's had 13, 11, 12 kicks.

In losses against North and Saints, he's had 3 and 6 kicks.

Wagner is a deadly kick and usually sets up plays coming off half back.  My prediction.  If he gets 10+ kicks a game and maintains a disposal efficiency of > 75% I think we'll win more than we do lose.  

I plan on monitoring this and seeing how accurate it is.  I think the AFL world is yet to realise how good this kid really is.

I find it weird that for a guy who seems incredibly composed and able to make smart decisions under extreme heat, he still makes some surprisingly bad ones too.

Love seeing him out there though and I reckon it's just the pace of the game that he is still getting used to so hopefully we'll see more consistency in the quality of his decision making and target hitting ability.  Looks to have a really great blend of attributes.

Both Hunt and Wagner whilst young and inexperienced have definitely given the backline a 'fresh' look and feel.

Edited May 11, 20169 yr by stevethemanjordan

Ticks all the boxes so far....