NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS 3 & 7

[Fat Tony 4,418]

We should now try and now trade #46, #50 and our 2016 third rounder for the Swans' #33, #54 and their 2016 third rounder and promise not to bid on Mills.

[olisik 4,060]

I think we ll go Francis and would be stupid not to. Parish isn't to dissimilar to Scully at that age and is already the 4th best mid behind the academy players.

Picking up Francis and Matheson who is a Jordan Lewis type mid would be perfect.

[What 18,810]

We should now try and now trade #46, #50 and our 2016 third rounder for the Swans' #33, #54 and their 2016 third rounder and promise not to bid on Mills.

No we should keep the picks, and bid on Mills at 3.. effectively wiping them out of the draft with all the points theyd have to stump up

Its time for the underdog to get nasty

[Members' Wing 1,106]

Is it just me, or does it feel like this year the bulk of the top10 seemed to have a lot of question marks over them.. what I mean is that it seems these days if you want to become a great player you can't really be lacking in anything. If you are too slow, too soft, too short, can't kick etc that one flaw will render you unfit for battle. Just doesn't seem like we have any 'complete packages' to choose from this year.

I know what you mean. Brayshaw and Petracca, and Salem too seemed like sure-fire good things right from the start pre-draft.

Question marks over every one of 3-10.

[olisik 4,060]

I know what you mean. Brayshaw and Petracca, and Salem too seemed like sure-fire good things right from the start pre-draft.

Question marks over every one of 3-10.

None over Francis. Can't go wrong and must take at 3. He wouldn't have made it to 6

[Goodvibes 3,596]

None over Francis. Can't go wrong and must take at 3. He wouldn't have made it to 6

Aerobic capacity?

[John Demonic 4,806]

I don't care who we pick in terms of athleticism, speed, agility or natural talent - I hope we pick an intelligent bloke. The best footballers are intelligent and can process multiple options and potentialities simultaneously in the heat of the moment before they make a decision, which is consistently the right choice because they've developed a feel for where every player around them is.

What struck me last year was how well spoken Brayshaw and Petracca were, they were quality kids first and foremost. I could tell they have the intelligence to know how much work to put in to excel at this game for the longhaul.

If we do go for a risky flamboyant but inconsistent natural talent then make sure he at least becomes the next jeff farmer or a player that gives us that unpredictable edge . I love you Wiz.

[FarNorthernD 5,842]

The best mid and CHF with these two picks.

No, the best available

[Binmans PA 26,178]

Carlton just received Pick 8 in the GWS trade. Fair to say if they go down the Weitering path with Pick 1, they will be looking at one of Curnow or Weideman with their second pick to fill their void of KPF's

Knowing the way SOS drafts, they'll stuff up both their top 10 picks too. That'd be nice. Can't believe they rate him over there. It reeks of being an old boys club down there.

[Binmans PA 26,178]

You are at the negotiation table. Do you:

A) play "hard ball" in order to get the best deal, make every deal take far longer than they need to, holding yourself up and annoying every counterparty in the game?

B) move straight towards your best offer, get the deal done swiftly and efficiently, allowing you to move forward on your bigger fish you have to fry and building up goodwill with your counterparties for future deals?

Yep, okay. I concede. I was wrong here. I wanted us to push Howe into the PSD to send a message, but the professional and smart thing to do is just get the trades done and move toward your objective. As it turned out, Howe changing his mind at the last minute didn't hinder us too much.

Never had a crack at Mahoney though. He seems to be a really cool, efficient operator. Well done again, Josh.

This is what "we'll be agressive in the trade period" looks like.

I also concede I went too early with the comment lampooning Roos for saying we'd be aggressive at the trade table. However, I still maintain the A+ grader comments set him up for failure though.

In the end, I'm pretty happy with this trade period. We just have to get the top 10 picks right now. This could really make this list. Get these two right and suddenly we have a core of 8-10 players that could form a dynasty. Hogan, Salem, Petracca, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Pick #3, Pick #7, Tommy Mac and Gawn. But I don't think anyone could over emphasise how important these two picks are this year.

[spirit of norm smith 12,956]

1. Weitering... Blues

2. Schache... Lions

3. Parish... Demons

4. Curnow... Bombers

5. Francis... Bombers

6. Mathieson ... Suns

7. Weideman... Demons

Likely MFC gets future star mid and star CHF

[Binmans PA 26,178]

Confirmed. Both of my younger brothers played cricket against him as juniors.

Who isn't lippy on the cricket field though?

[CBDees 3,162]

1. Weitering... Blues

2. Schache... Lions

3. Parish... Demons

4. Curnow... Bombers

5. Francis... Bombers

6. Mathieson ... Suns

7. Weideman... Demons

Likely MFC gets future star mid and star CHF

Everybody is assuming that Carltank and Brisbane are automatically going to draft Weitering and Schache however what if they don't? Last year we collected Petracca when everybody expected St Kilda to take him so stop banking Parish until this is all over!

[Phadraig 760]

I've never seen Weideman play but man the 3 or so things I've read about him weren't very positive. Pretty much said he was a fantastic mark but isn't a very good kick for goal, not athletic and hasn't got a good tank.

[Tex 68]

Pleeeeeeeeease get Francis with pick 3. He is a Fyfe clone. No more stringy outside mids. We need big tough mids.

Francis' kicking is elite, can take a great grab and has X factor.

Weiderman at 7.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Everybody is assuming that Carltank and Brisbane are automatically going to draft Weitering and Schache however what if they don't? Last year we collected Petracca when everybody expected St Kilda to take him so stop banking Parish until this is all over!

If Schache isn't gone we take him at three and probably have to pass on seven because everyone at our table is laughing too hard to push the button.

[Demon Disciple 11,000]

If Schache isn't gone we take him at three and probably have to pass on seven because everyone at our table is laughing too hard to push the button.

That'll only happen if the Swans decide to not match our bid for Mills!!! Schache to slip to 7

[Vanilla Gorilla 204]

Can anyone who has seen him play please explain whether Parish is a tough competitor? After all, thats what the FD have consistently claimed they're targeting.

Based on the highlights he looks like the second coming of Lachie Whitfield. Surely we'd be after players who have more of a mongrel-type aggression than that...

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Can anyone who has seen him play please explain whether Parish is a tough competitor? After all, thats what the FD have consistently claimed they're targeting.

Based on the highlights he looks like the second coming of Lachie Whitfield. Surely we'd be after players who have more of a mongrel-type aggression than that...

His highlight reel is terrible, but people who actually watch the U18s say that he is actually a pretty solid contested ballwinner. I think he's better on the outside from the look of things, but when it's his turn to go he will go.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Terrible deal. How the [censored] do we expect to get Prestia now!?!?!?

Worry about that next year. We have to fix the here and now.

I smell some facetious I think from DL5

[leucopogon 1,468]

Underwhelmed by Parish, Clear standout highlights are Francis (what pair of hands he has). Schache would be a handy foil for Hogan.

Was thinking about the prospect of a last minute three way trade with the Dockers and GWS

Pick 3 to Dockers for Steven Hill or Lachie Neale

Dockers on trade pick 3 and another sweetener to GWS for McCarthy

[jackaub 1,402]

3 Parish

4 Francis

5 Curnow (makes me sad)

6 Milera

7 Weiderman

8 Doesn't matter because it's Carlton!

Watching Milera. Has great skills, great pace, skinny as a rake. Just a red flag as a Melbourne supporter =p

Please dont take the skinny one pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[MadAsHell 4,088]

Would it be possible thst the club completely blind side everyone and draft Francis at 3 and Darcy at 7?

However when i say Darcy, on this occassion i mean Tucker! Some outside pace and poise to help us off half back/wing?

[Dee-licious 1,800]

Can anyone who has seen him play please explain whether Parish is a tough competitor? After all, thats what the FD have consistently claimed they're targeting.

Based on the highlights he looks like the second coming of Lachie Whitfield. Surely we'd be after players who have more of a mongrel-type aggression than that...

Watched him quite a lot this year. Really fierce competitor. Kind of rips the ball away from you and runs away. Like a three year old kid grabbing a toy and bolting and has the speed that you cant catch him. There isnt a Petracca or Brayshaw this year but Darcy held his own with them when he was 17. The boy has mongrel.

I've never seen Weideman play but man the 3 or so things I've read about him weren't very positive. Pretty much said he was a fantastic mark but isn't a very good kick for goal, not athletic and hasn't got a good tank.

I've been surprised at this. He's just as good as Schache in the kicking department and most people at the start of the year expected that they would be roughly the same. He's had no exposed form which lets him down.

Weitering and Schache are locks for 1 and 2. Carlton might try and float they are doing something else, but you dont pass on top quality. Plus, Carlton will be hoping that Weiderman falls to 8.

[olisik 4,060]

Parish is compared to Whitfield who hasn't set the world on fire. We need to go for bigger bodies unless we want to wait 5 years for him to put on some size without losing confidence or being constantly injured in that period.

Francis for me.