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I loved Kennedy in the juniors and thought Collingwood were KOTD when they managed to snare Grundy at 18 and Kennedy at 19. They then picked up another SA Broomhead at 20 with the Dawes pick.

I also accept he's had limited opportunities, because Collingwood have so many midgets and he's often been used as the sub. But he's looked out of his depth at AFL level.

That said, if the club likes him I'II back their judgement.

If we get him he will be to us what Schneider/Buchanan were to Sydney in Roosy's tenure, in my opinion

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Are we now collecting Kennedy's :rolleyes:

lets hope so, because we are in a 60's sort of retro-era. They are well, popular, & successful, apart from injuries.

the josh twins are doing well for their respective clubs. are they're any kanga's out & about blzb?

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He wouldn't be in our best 22 and that's saying something because our best 22 ain't elite.

We need more than one of every kind, even with JK-H.

even the ark had 2 of every kind.

we need more than that for competition of spots.

If we get him he will be to us what Schneider/Buchanan were to Sydney in Roosy's tenure, in my opinion

yep, I can see that.

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I loved Kennedy in the juniors and thought Collingwood were KOTD when they managed to snare Grundy at 18 and Kennedy at 19. They then picked up another SA Broomhead at 20 with the Dawes pick.

I also accept he's had limited opportunities, because Collingwood have so many midgets and he's often been used as the sub, but he's looked out of his depth at AFL level. Poor endurance and short unreliable kick.

That said, if the club likes him I'II back their judgement.

My preconceived impression of Kennedy was pretty much the same, and was underwhelmed with getting him. I googled a highlights clip of him in his 1st season, and 2 things stood out:

- His first 2 kicks were right footed, including a 50m shot on the run. So I thought I was wrong about him being a natural left footer.

- His disposal by left is very neat and penetrating.

If Toumpas had put on a display like this in any of his games in his 1st season, we'd be salivating.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2014-09-15/season-highlight-ben-kennedy

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I loved Kennedy in the juniors and thought Collingwood were KOTD when they managed to snare Grundy at 18 and Kennedy at 19. They then picked up another SA Broomhead at 20 with the Dawes pick.

I also accept he's had limited opportunities, because Collingwood have so many midgets and he's often been used as the sub, but he's looked out of his depth at AFL level. Poor endurance and short unreliable kick.

That said, if the club likes him I'II back their judgement.

If anyone needs to know what KOTD stands for, do a search on here for it - that was a fun thread!

Can't quite recall to what it referred to though...

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If anyone needs to know what KOTD stands for, do a search on here for it - that was a fun thread!

Can't quite recall to what it referred to though...

It was some boring discussion about where Trengove would have been taken the year before we drafted him...

You just wasted my time.

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If anyone needs to know what KOTD stands for, do a search on here for it - that was a fun thread!

Can't quite recall to what it referred to though...

It was some boring discussion about where Trengove would have been taken the year before we drafted him...

You just wasted my time.

You do realise you are commenting on your own post? :blink:

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If anyone needs to know what KOTD stands for, do a search on here for it - that was a fun thread!

Can't quite recall to what it referred to though...

KOTD isn't that Kicked Out The Door? I might be mistaken, I seem to remember something envolving lipstick once ( maybe twice)

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An extract from today's Age: "Collingwood forward Ben Kennedy has met Melbourne, which rated him extremely highly in his draft year of 2012. The Demons would likely have chosen the South Australian with pick four in that year's national draft, had Jimmy Toumpas been selected with one of the first three picks". http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/john-worsfolds-first-job-as-essendon-coach-get-matthew-leuenberger-20151006-gk2q69.html

So much for the 3 year long angst on DL re 'we should have taken Wines instead of Toumpas'!!!

It seems Ollie was not destined to be ours.

Did MFC ever say they would take Ollie @ pick 4 or was it a media/supporter assumption!

Some decent authors to that article so have to give the quote some cred.

Hope that puts an end to the 'Jimmy vs Ollie' word fest on here!


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An extract from today's Age: "Collingwood forward Ben Kennedy has met Melbourne, which rated him extremely highly in his draft year of 2012. The Demons would likely have chosen the South Australian with pick four in that year's national draft, had Jimmy Toumpas been selected with one of the first three picks". http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/john-worsfolds-first-job-as-essendon-coach-get-matthew-leuenberger-20151006-gk2q69.html

So much for the 3 year long angst on DL re 'we should have taken Wines instead of Toumpas'!!!

It seems Ollie was not destined to be ours.

Did MFC ever say they would take Ollie @ pick 4 or was it a media/supporter assumption!

Some decent authors to that article so have to give the quote some cred.

Hope that puts an end to the 'Jimmy vs Ollie' word fest on here!

It just compounds the felony of our very ordinary recruiters of that time.

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It just compounds the felony of our very ordinary recruiters of that time.

Yes very true!

Kennedy would then have become the DL whipping boy condemned to comparisons to Wines, McCrae et al!!

Knowing that MFC rated Kennedy so highly and that Jason Taylor (then at the Pies) chose him suggests we really know what we are doing with this one and he may turn out to be a real surprise packet.

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An extract from today's Age: "Collingwood forward Ben Kennedy has met Melbourne, which rated him extremely highly in his draft year of 2012. The Demons would likely have chosen the South Australian with pick four in that year's national draft, had Jimmy Toumpas been selected with one of the first three picks". http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/john-worsfolds-first-job-as-essendon-coach-get-matthew-leuenberger-20151006-gk2q69.html

That's just the media doing what they do best.

Being absolute clowns.

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Given Port's apparent interest in Toumpas, I suspect that, like virtually every other club in the comp, they would've picked Toumpas over Wines. Some people here seem to forget that Toumpas was universally rated as a top end draft pick with big upside.

At the time ...

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So it's sounding like:

Toumpas to Port

Young to the Filth

Kennedy to Melbourne.

Can't really complain with that I wouldn't have thought.

Leaves our 2nd & 3rd round picks to secure Melksham & Bugg and the likes of Howe & Dawes on the table to get us back into the draft after Pick 6. I still reckon Grimes will be traded by the end of trade period also.

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Given Port's apparent interest in Toumpas, I suspect that, like virtually every other club in the comp, they would've picked Toumpas over Wines. Some people here seem to forget that Toumpas was universally rated as a top end draft pick with big upside.

At the time ...

And he may yet deliver on that upside. I hope he does.

It will hurt to see him do it somewhere else but I will be thrilled for him personally.

I will be equally thrilled if Kennedy, who we rate highly, can deliver for us!

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So it's sounding like:

Toumpas to Port

Young to the Filth

Kennedy to Melbourne.

Can't really complain with that I wouldn't have thought.

Leaves our 2nd & 3rd round picks to secure Melksham & Bugg and the likes of Howe & Dawes on the table to get us back into the draft after Pick 6. I still reckon Grimes will be traded by the end of trade period also.

Thought it was Moore.

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Thought it was Moore.

Yeah he was mentioned when they were talking about Toumpas for Melksham.

However The Age this morning referenced it was going to be Toumpas for Kennedy and Young was the likely link instead.

That many different scenarios get thrown around!

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