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Established players such as Michie, Riley, Newton and Ben Kennedy? He's just pulling names out of a hat as far as I can tell.

If he keeps trying, perhaps eventually he'll find another Josh Kennedy, but I don't like his chances.

Ben Kennedy doesn't belong in the same group as Michie, Riley and Newton. He was a highly rated junior who hasn't come on as expected. The other three were fringe footballers who we got for very cheap.

That's not to say it won't have the same result, but I'd say the premise in taking Kennedy is different to the others.

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MFC and GWS recruiters just marched into AFL House. Tommy Bugg about to become a Dee.

Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

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You don't go anywhere without good players. That doesn't necessarily mean early draft picks.

So far it does...both the recent power clubs, Geelong and Hawthorn have built their success on the back of the draft, early picks and father/son advantages.

Things may change in this current environment but the reason they are now """destination"""( hate this) clubs are the successes built on the back of the draft.

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Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

Gosh, I hope it gets done today! I'm not sure I can wait until tomorrow.

Tell me why it matters when it gets done as long as it gets done.

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Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

Josh Mahoney's ears were burning....awesome bit of business upgrading to get two top 10 picks!

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In exchange for a different two top 10 picks though. Meh.

When is a top ten pick different to other top 10 picks?

When they are in the top 3.

And we have that pick.

I will back ourselves to stay above BL, Carl, and Ess at least...

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Just to clarify, Carlton just traded (effectively) a second round pick and some nothing late picks for four players (two of whom were top 10 draft picks), and we still can't get Tom Bugg traded in for a third round pick. I hope we are looking to add something juicier in to the deal, rather than GWS dragging their feet.

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Just to clarify, Carlton just traded (effectively) a second round pick and some nothing late picks for four players (two of whom were top 10 draft picks), and we still can't get Tom Bugg traded in for a third round pick. I hope we are looking to add something juicier in to the deal, rather than GWS dragging their feet.

I think they were just helping old mate SOS out. To add pick 8 to that deal is like a gift for Carlton. I think it will end up being a defining trade for Carlton. A lot of those players haven't really had a chance to show their worth. GWS have such an elite midfield, its hard for any of these kids to get a run.

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