I wouldn't put Hogan on the plane this week.

We have 5 winnable or semi winnable games in a row at the G after Darwin. We need him fresh for those games.

I wouldn't put Hogan on the plane this week.

We have 5 winnable or semi winnable games in a row at the G after Darwin. We need him fresh for those games.

He just had 2 weeks off, come on lol

This weeks game is winnable too

He just had 2 weeks off, come on lol

This weeks game is winnable too

He did a running session the day we played Geelong. We were probably being cautious.

Be nice to see us force them into man on man like we did to Geelong.

Be nice to see us force them into man on man like we did to Geelong.

i think this is a must do

Well he does love a snag...

We wouldn't be the first one he flays either...

I wouldn't put Hogan on the plane this week.

We have 5 winnable or semi winnable games in a row at the G after Darwin. We need him fresh for those games.

My guess is that they will not risk him if there is any doubt. The medicos will hopefully make the right decision. What we appear to be seeing with Jesse is a chronic problem that will have to be carefully managed over his career. You have to worry a bit about how much uninterrupted football he is going to be able to play. He is very young to have a chronic back injury and his physical/pack breaking game style would not help. On the one hand I would like to see Jesse locked away as a Demon for many years. However, this is offset against the risk of doing so with a player who might have a long term injury problem thereby limiting his playing life. Can he afford to play such a physical game as he does? We all remember how David Schwartz had to completely change the way he played after his knee recos. One way or another, we cannot have a forward line that is Jesse dependent.

I could be wrong, but I think Hogans back injuries are related to hamstring issues. I think if his hamstrings are looked after his back will give much fewer problems.

Edited June 29, 201510 yr by ManDee

The line is 23.5. I reckon we can get within 4 goals of them, so coin has been laid down.

The last time I did this was against Richmond. Hopefully it's a similar outcome.

My guess is that they will not risk him if there is any doubt. The medicos will hopefully make the right decision. What we appear to be seeing with Jesse is a chronic problem that will have to be carefully managed over his career. You have to worry a bit about how much uninterrupted football he is going to be able to play. He is very young to have a chronic back injury and his physical/pack breaking game style would not help. On the one hand I would like to see Jesse locked away as a Demon for many years. However, this is offset against the risk of doing so with a player who might have a long term injury problem thereby limiting his playing life. Can he afford to play such a physical game as he does? We all remember how David Schwartz had to completely change the way he played after his knee recos. One way or another, we cannot have a forward line that is Jesse dependent.

These negative thoughts around the Hulk need to be banished to the bottom of the sea! At the moment he has missed one match of footy due to an extra-cautious approach to hamstring tightness.

My guess is that they will not risk him if there is any doubt. The medicos will hopefully make the right decision. What we appear to be seeing with Jesse is a chronic problem that will have to be carefully managed over his career. You have to worry a bit about how much uninterrupted football he is going to be able to play. He is very young to have a chronic back injury and his physical/pack breaking game style would not help. On the one hand I would like to see Jesse locked away as a Demon for many years. However, this is offset against the risk of doing so with a player who might have a long term injury problem thereby limiting his playing life. Can he afford to play such a physical game as he does? We all remember how David Schwartz had to completely change the way he played after his knee recos. One way or another, we cannot have a forward line that is Jesse dependent.

I'd disagree entirely. The two games Jesse has been withdrawn from have been the Hawks and the Cats at Skilled. Realistically I think the FD has decided to rest him in games we are most likely to struggle in as him being there wouldn't affect the outcome. As a supporter, I'd far prefer to see him miss those games and play against Carlton, St Kilda, Bulldogs etc- games we are far more likely to be in up until the final siren. It worked conveniently in the end as resting against Geelong leading into a bye meant he'd get two straight weeks to recover before a Darwin game by only missing one game & as we know, we ended up winning without him. Even better.

Furthermore, we also need to remember he is the sole focal point forward of centre on a team that relies on him heavily. The impact on a big bodied key-forward is enormous as is, and the fact he is 19 only exacerbates that issue. My initial disappointment when he is pulled from games and I have about 70% less confidence in us forward of centre is quickly restored when I realise mature decisions are being made on this young kid no matter how important we all know he is. There is no longer a 'messiah' mentality and it bodes well to ensure his body can take on the rigour of full-time AFL football going forward.

I could be wrong, but I think Hogans back injuries are related to hamstring issues. I think if his hamstrings are looked after his back will give much fewer problems.

Fact, or speculation on your part?

West Coast are the type of team who absolutely smash worse teams - so I'm kind of worried about this game.

These negative thoughts around the Hulk need to be banished to the bottom of the sea! At the moment he has missed one match of footy due to an extra-cautious approach to hamstring tightness.

Happy for you to banish these thoughts to the bottom of the sea. We will see what unfolds. I hope you are right.

I could be wrong, but I think Hogans back injuries are related to hamstring issues. I think if his hamstrings are looked after his back will give much fewer problems.

In my experience it's the other way about Man. Back issues cause other problems - ie hammys.

Just on all the discussion about playing too tall/changing a winning side, it seems unlikely Roos will be dropping Dawes regardless of Team balance.

"when he’s in there and playing a really important role for us – as you saw in the game at Geelong, which was a good example – he played a really important role. When he does that, we’re a better team."

Yes, we had a great win last week, but for mine, it was in SPITE of the 22 we had out there instead of BECAUSE of the 22. What I mean by that is injuries forced us to play a weakened side - just because we won it doesn't mean you stick with that weakened side, you improve it as players become available.

Hogan, Garland, JKH (sub) all in for mine - out: Riley, Matt Jones, Bail

I'd disagree entirely. The two games Jesse has been withdrawn from have been the Hawks and the Cats at Skilled. Realistically I think the FD has decided to rest him in games we are most likely to struggle in as him being there wouldn't affect the outcome. As a supporter, I'd far prefer to see him miss those games and play against Carlton, St Kilda, Bulldogs etc- games we are far more likely to be in up until the final siren. It worked conveniently in the end as resting against Geelong leading into a bye meant he'd get two straight weeks to recover before a Darwin game by only missing one game & as we know, we ended up winning without him. Even better.

Furthermore, we also need to remember he is the sole focal point forward of centre on a team that relies on him heavily. The impact on a big bodied key-forward is enormous as is, and the fact he is 19 only exacerbates that issue. My initial disappointment when he is pulled from games and I have about 70% less confidence in us forward of centre is quickly restored when I realise mature decisions are being made on this young kid no matter how important we all know he is. There is no longer a 'messiah' mentality and it bodes well to ensure his body can take on the rigour of full-time AFL football going forward.

I disagree.. You play your best team every week, and try to win EVERY game..

Anything else MEDIOCRITY!!

Without Spencers help Gawn will have another exhausted & poor Q4, leaving our midfield smashed, therefor we'll be thrashed late in the game as so often happens. IMO we much need Spencer's help against NicNat.

Because it'll be hot, plus because it's the Eagles, our best endurance runners like TMac will be vital. Hence runners MJones & Bail could stay & be dropped next week if necessary.

Riley is less a runner & could give way if someone needs to come in, E.G. Garland,.

Hogan in, and unfortunately to maintain balance, Dawes could be dropped for the match (doubt he will be though).

Ins: Hogan, Garland

Outs I expect: Riley, Bail/M Jones

Outs I'd prefer: Riley, Dawes

I think M Jones will keep his spot and maybe play on Hurn.

Bail and Riley for Hogan and Garland.

I wouldn't put Hogan on the plane this week.

We have 5 winnable or semi winnable games in a row at the G after Darwin. We need him fresh for those games.

ffs.

ffs.

fmd. fml.

I could be wrong, but I think Hogans back injuries are related to hamstring issues. I think if his hamstrings are looked after his back will give much fewer problems.

Probably. Could be the other way around. A sprained ankle could lead to a host of knee, ankle, foot, groin, back injuries. I had OP when I played footy as a junior and it all snowballed into knee problems. Hamstring issues become knee problems. I wonder if it's a fitness issue though, not directly related, so kind of a difference in way you move and approach a situation. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS!

Roos really rates Garland, as per his mid year review and thus will come in if fit. Hogan is a no brainer.

I think Spencer may be the unlucky one, along with Bail.

Nice problem to have - competition for spots.

I think it's more that Bail would feel lucky to be getting a game ATM chook.

As for Spencil I think he served his purpose last week and would be happy to be playing a role like that given his aerial limitations in rucking contests. On the ground he is super competitive.

Going to be an interesting time at the selection table.

Edited June 29, 201510 yr by Rusty Nails

Without Spencers help Gawn will have another exhausted & poor Q4, leaving our midfield smashed, therefor we'll be thrashed late in the game as so often happens. IMO we much need Spencer's help against NicNat.

Because it'll be hot, plus because it's the Eagles, our best endurance runners like TMac will be vital. Hence runners MJones & Bail could stay & be dropped next week if necessary.

Riley is less a runner & could give way if someone needs to come in, E.G. Garland,.

Hogan in, and unfortunately to maintain balance, Dawes could be dropped for the match (doubt he will be though).

Ins: Hogan, Garland

Outs I expect: Riley, Bail/M Jones

Outs I'd prefer: Riley, Dawes

Dawes can cover for Gawn in short stints just to provide a contest Rob.

Will also change the look of the forward line for a while and free up room for the Hulk and Jeffy to work in while Gawn in resting.

Be nice to see us force them into man on man like we did to Geelong.

Not sure why we do this against some teams and not others? Or half a game and not a full one??