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That was my initial take, which is why I was taken aback. But as Sweet and Sour Dee said, I think it was more of a dig at his former club.

Personally, assistant coaches shouldn't concern themselves with club politics at a new club. The reality of sport is that coaches get sacked, and all of them will tell you that the club panicked.

Nah from the vibe of it I think he was speaking in general terms about how bad teams turn in to good. Probably framed from his experience at Geelong not a dig at the dogs and definitely not a comment on any Melbourne specifics.

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He might not see it that way but I'm sure it was. When the season finished he was set to coach the dogs the next year. Any review carried out of his performance would've had him staying. If there was significant doubt they would've reviewed his performance in September and had him in or out by trade week.

As far as I can tell McCartney's biggest error was appointing Griffen captain. One of the elite players of the comp (at the time of his appointment) who at his best was an inspirational on field leader. If Griffen refused the captaincy and McCartney forced him in to it then that is a Neeld style error from a man trying to be a leader of a football club. If Griffen accepted the job and then later couldn't handle the pressure then he made the mistake and should be very apologetic to McCartney.

Either way, most fail at senior coaching in the AFL. The expectations are just too high. Better to have tried and failed than never tried at all.

Or it might have to do with Gordon thinking he is everything at the club and knows all best and not being prepared to work to a plan.
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To be fair, he offered his opinion when asked for it by Redleg. I don't see these comments as concerning himself with club politics.

Correct.

I didn't get the impression he was into club politics at all.

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I have spoken to former players, as have many others on Demonland no doubt and the one thing they all agree on is, without good admin,coaching and development, you can't have sustained success.

We are fixing all these areas and are on the right track.

As an aside, ate at a Salem restaurant yesterday and spoke to one of Chris's brothers, who told me that Christian is loving the club and hopefully with a good pre season and no injuries, is looking forward to producing his best footy for the club.

Thinks we have a good bunch of youngsters who will develop into a strong team over the next couple of years.

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Or it might have to do with Gordon thinking he is everything at the club and knows all best and not being prepared to work to a plan.

I suspect this is very much the case. Have heard a few whispers he's somewhat autocratic and can often go off on his own tangents.
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Or it might have to do with Gordon thinking he is everything at the club and knows all best and not being prepared to work to a plan.

I have spoken to former players, as have many others on Demonland no doubt and the one thing they all agree on is, without good admin,coaching and development, you can't have sustained success.

We are fixing all these areas and are on the right track.

As an aside, ate at a Salem restaurant yesterday and spoke to one of Chris's brothers, who told me that Christian is loving the club and hopefully with a good pre season and no injuries, is looking forward to producing his best footy for the club.

Thinks we have a good bunch of youngsters who will develop into a strong team over the next couple of years.

Which restaurants are owned by the Salems again..?

Was it Rock Salt?


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Which restaurants are owned by the Salems again..?

Was it Rock Salt?

Yes in Bay Street, Brighton and the Cafe at the beach end of North Road, also in Brighton.

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I think I posted this when he was sacked by the Bullies.

Was very impressed by this speech and very happy to have this man in our players' ears.

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I think I posted this when he was sacked by the Bullies.

Was very impressed by this speech and very happy to have this man in our players' ears.

Thanks for posting the clip. Brendan McCartney is very impressive and obviously passionate about all things "Footy".

It is fantastic to have him on board.

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What a wonderful, intelligent speech. Great footy brain. Certainly had the young player's attention . So glad we have him at the club. Thanks for re posting 39, much appreciated.

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Thanks for posting the clip. Brendan McCartney is very impressive and obviously passionate about all things "Footy".

It is fantastic to have him on board.

I remember this speech and was very impressed by it at the time. One of the best football speeches I have heard...

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I remember this speech and was very impressed by it at the time. One of the best football speeches I have heard...

How lucky to have snagged this bloke.

Gordon's an idiot ( thankfully )

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How lucky to have snagged this bloke.

Gordon's an idiot ( thankfully )

Like Neeld he is probably a terrific assistant coach (happy he is at Melbourne in this role) but as a senior coach he never really stood out to me and I wasn't surprised when he left the Bulldogs.

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Best development coach going around besides Maybe hinkley and choco


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I put up a thread about Brendan McCartney a few weeks ago too. I am very excited about him joining the Demons as a development coach.

Once I'm a bit more mobile (I am currently on crutches after recovering from knee surgery) I hope to have a brief chat to Brendan and welcome him to the Melbourne Football Club too. ☺

Having good quality football people like Brendan McCartney at our club will pay off in the long-run.

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What an impressive individual. Love the bit where he says that when a kid is drafted he always promises the parents that he will take care of them like his own sons. Just shows why he was such an A grade talent developer.

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I have spoken to former players, as have many others on Demonland no doubt and the one thing they all agree on is, without good admin,coaching and development, you can't have sustained success.

Agree, Red. And if we don't offer those qualities, it makes it more difficult to keep/attract quality players. Particularly in this professional era players are looking to be part of high quality organisations who can offer them the opportunity to fully develop their talents and achieve team success. It's a virtuous circle that we have not been part of for a long time. Hopefully we are pulling ourselves up by our own boot straps, and can give this current group the opportunity to succeed at our club.

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What an impressive individual. Love the bit where he says that when a kid is drafted he always promises the parents that he will take care of them like his own sons. Just shows why he was such an A grade talent developer.

He has really carried that through to the mfc too, he is always giving pats on bums and good bits of advice to the younger guys, everyone already seems to really like him.

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He has really carried that through to the mfc too, he is always giving pats on bums and good bits of advice to the younger guys, everyone already seems to really like him.

i'll take the latter but not too sure about the former :lol:

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i'll take the latter but not too sure about the former :lol:

Hahaha :P I'm sure there are far creepier old men that lurk around training trying to touch the players DC

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