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rpfc
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'Chafing' at the bit? I think you need to rearrange your bit...

rjay
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He was on all evidence 'picket' just like McCartin now who you are pushing for. This is where the recruiters should earn their money. For me Toumpas was a steal when we got him, his performances in

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I am sick of all the Toumpas bagging on this site. Toumpas was a stand-out junior, with a bloody good attitude and strong desire to succeed. I am very confident he'll turn out to be a really good play

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I think that is what will happen. I'd be very close to taking McCartin and Wright, I think they would complement each other nicely and the club would have stashed away a truly nightmarish forward setup for other teams to worry about for years. They are both beasts. Brayshaw is good and he would be a safe/steady pick, which is probably a sensible line to take but Im not sure I could take him ahead of either of the two forwards. My only question mark re McCartin is the management of his illness, but he is extrememly talented and I know a few clubs would 100% be taking him at number 1. Not a huge rap for this draft. Had Petracca been proven to not be able to play in the midfield he would still be a gruaranteed top 10 pick as a medium sized marking forward and most of the players have enormous question marks hanging over them in terms of being top picks.

That said, we do have another young beast waiting in the wings in the form of Jesse Hogan so if we take Brayshaw and one beast, we don't miss much.

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As someone who knows nothing about the "science of recruiting" slash "predicting how a young player will translate to AFL" I still have a major concern that the a player like McCartin, a large lump of a kid who clearly bullies everyone lse around based on size, weight and reach will not be able to play the sane game at AFL level.

Can anyone comment on why they think he will be just a effective at AFL level when his size is the norm not the exception?

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I too am absolutely no expert at all, but I will suggest this... he's not going to get any smaller.

McCartin, like Brown, Roughhead, Hawkins, etc is a great big lump of a kid, who is going to grow into an even bigger lump of a man. He has good pace of the mark, good athleticism and agility and if he can maintain these through further access to elite training, then he should develop into a big, bustle power forward. He is not a skinny kid that needs to bulk up in his early twenties, and we certainly won't be looking at preseason training with crossed fingers to see if he's added and muscle to his frame. If anything, his big frame is a huge advantage as he starts in the AFL because he is not going to be rag-dolled like many recruits.

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i think it may still be a little early to discount Mccartin, there will still be more list changes to come from a lot of sides, so there maybe other opportunities to pick up more mids via FA and save pick 3 for McCartin or Wright as we definitely have a weak forward line reliant on Dawes and Hogan, and we will be in deep trouble should either or both of these get injured/suspended, as we really dont have a backup plan.

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i think it may still be a little early to discount Mccartin, there will still be more list changes to come from a lot of sides, so there maybe other opportunities to pick up more mids via FA and save pick 3 for McCartin or Wright as we definitely have a weak forward line reliant on Dawes and Hogan, and we will be in deep trouble should either or both of these get injured/suspended, as we really dont have a backup plan.

Well, if the forward line doesn't have a Plan B, the midfield doesn't have a Plan A.

12 mids. 12.

We have half that at the moment with the requisite talent and career projection.

We really can't hope for a strong harvest of next years FA crop, and nor can we sacrifice ourselves at the altar of the Church of Best Available.

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How many times have we seen a MFC player with the ball look to the F50, see no one and then go sideways, until the ball is turned over?

If Hogan is injured and Dawes is one out, we are stuffed every time. We certainly kicked some great scores this year of 2-3 goals, even though we had plenty of the ball.

What does that tell you?

A forward line encourages the ball carriers to move it forward quickly, towards the goal.That allows the forwards to be free, or one on one, with the best chance to score.

Yes we need mids and we have some, but we need a very good forward even more.

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As someone who knows nothing about the "science of recruiting" slash "predicting how a young player will translate to AFL" I still have a major concern that the a player like McCartin, a large lump of a kid who clearly bullies everyone lse around based on size, weight and reach will not be able to play the sane game at AFL level.

Can anyone comment on why they think he will be just a effective at AFL level when his size is the norm not the exception?

Some would say the same thing about Petracca who similarly is an imposing lump of a lad at the junior level. What guarantee is there that he will make it? Others said the same about Ollie Wines. Patton? Boyd?

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How many times have we seen a MFC player with the ball look to the F50, see no one and then go sideways, until the ball is turned over?

If Hogan is injured and Dawes is one out, we are stuffed every time. We certainly kicked some great scores this year of 2-3 goals, even though we had plenty of the ball.

What does that tell you?

A forward line encourages the ball carriers to move it forward quickly, towards the goal.That allows the forwards to be free, or one on one, with the best chance to score.

Yes we need mids and we have some, but we need a very good forward even more.

Agree 'Redleg', we have an 'F Troop' forward line.

The first game of the year St Kilda had most of their midfield out, the difference was Nick. They had him to kick to, we had no one.

Yes we need to strengthen our midfield but they also need someone to give them kicking practice rather than playing kick to kick across the half back line.

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Sorry to post in another thread but I can't stand it!!

FMD we have the chance to take an imposing KPF In Mc Cartin who will become a great player and some are talking up Lever and Laverde?

As I said FMD after Mids we need KPF not friggen cute half back or half forward flankers, jack of all trade types! Sheeit. We have a chance to build a spine!!

If Hogan continues to have injury concerns what are we left with ?? Friggen try hard Pederson and even try harder Fitzy!

Shheeit this aint rocket science and it aint all that hard to work out!

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Sorry to post in another thread but I can't stand it!!

FMD we have the chance to take an imposing KPF In Mc Cartin who will become a great player and some are talking up Lever and Laverde?

As I said FMD after Mids we need KPF not friggen cute half back or half forward flankers, jack of all trade types! Sheeit. We have a chance to build a spine!!

If Hogan continues to have injury concerns what are we left with ?? Friggen try hard Pederson and even try harder Fitzy!

Shheeit this aint rocket science and it aint all that hard to work out!

Very touching and eloquent picket.

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Wont happen, wont happen, wont happen...do I need to continue?

need has never really been a factor Clint.You post anyway!

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Please don't Clit!

need has never really been a factor Clint.You post anyway!

Thank you all for the encouragement! I love you too!

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