Exactly. Look at the bile directed at Scully, Clark, McLean, Frawley etc when we want (or have done) the same with Dangerfield, Clark (again), Walker, Shiel etc etc

You can't have it both ways. It's the way the world works.

I understand what your saying, but Clark gave us nothing and took a lot .

We paid him 2 million dollars for eleven games and he wants to walk out on us.

If players have been at the club for a while and given good service like Frawley , then so be it, but the whole Clark saga stinks.

I believe that Clark was suffering from depression. If for nothing else than to come out and say such a thing if you didn't have depression is just extremely poor taste, and it makes a mockery of the people that do suffer from depression.

... I am less inclined to believe however that this is the reason behind why he chose to retire from the club. I get a sense that there is far more to what has occurred, and that it is extremely unlikely to ever come out.

A month ago, my thoughts were that Clark would be delisted. Now even though he is likely to leave the club, we get the chance to trade him out, save some salary for next year, and bring in some players that want to play for the MFC. In anyones book thats has to be seen as a positive.

I hope he enjoys the boos on QB. He'll have certainly earned them.

Hopefully he doen't get on the park all year.

I believe that Clark was suffering from depression. If for nothing else than to come out and say such a thing if you didn't have depression is just extremely poor taste, and it makes a mockery of the people that do suffer from depression.

... I am less inclined to believe however that this is the reason behind why he chose to retire from the club. I get a sense that there is far more to what has occurred, and that it is extremely unlikely to ever come out.

A month ago, my thoughts were that Clark would be delisted. Now even though he is likely to leave the club, we get the chance to trade him out, save some salary for next year, and bring in some players that want to play for the MFC. In anyones book thats has to be seen as a positive.

This really gets to me, I think he is making a mockery now and is doing a lot of harm to the issue.

I don't want to sound like Martin Luther King but - I have a dream.

Mitch knows that his foot is stuffed.

He asked the MFC who do we hate, they said Collingwood,

He said lets set up a scam so that Collingwood think they can get me for stuff all.

They trade a player and the AFL gives a priority selection based on the unusual circumstances.

We get Harry Who and pick 4 in the draft (after the Frawley compensation)

Mitch does a pre season with the Pies and breaks down for good and gets another pay out.

How good would that be?

a definite candidate for the demonland hans christian anderson award

a definite candidate for the demonland hans christian anderson award

No fairy-tale, just a dream.

Yes.

Depression is episodic, and at the time he may very well have met the criteria for a diagnosis of 'depression'. That and his current acts may or may not be directly related. If he was running a negative past orientation and stable attribution style (I'm injured, have been for ages, will never get better...) thinking process, then helplessness, hopelessness, social isolation and depressed mood would have all been realistic outcomes for him.

We are not in a position to judge that.

We are in a position to judge his current (expected) actions, however.

If he is running a comorbid anxiety, and he believes that the MFC may act as a trigger to 'kick off' his depression again, I could understand his reluctance. However, avoidance is a poor coping strategy. Would need to address the external locus of control (it's the MFC, I have no responsibility for my response), stable (it will always be like that) and negative expectation. Suggest if a clinician has advised avoidance, he has been poorly advised.

Seems to me there is a lot more going on, and MFC may be exercising more control than we give them credit for. Let's see how it plays out.

I'm not one of the mods, but I think I should give you a warning. This is Demonland. We don't deal with facts here.

(But well said, nevertheless).

All I wish is that he'd see we're going places, get excited about the appointment of Goodwin, get excited about the trade period and who we could potentially land again..

But if course I don't know about clinical depression personally and how being at the MFC may well trigger some of those dark episodes again.. And I won't comment about it.

I still hold hope that he decides to stay.

I understand what your saying, but Clark gave us nothing and took a lot .

We paid him 2 million dollars for eleven games and he wants to walk out on us.

If players have been at the club for a while and given good service like Frawley , then so be it, but the whole Clark saga stinks.

If he was out of contract and wanted to leave, fair enough that's the nature of the sport now.

The fact that he was still contracted for next year yet we restructured it to pay him out on the udnerstanding we'd be the team he returned to if he was able to make a comeback and then go shopping round other clubs is what gets me. It's despicable behaviour and shows a complete lack of ethics and honour.

Surprised anyone still cares.

See ya Mitch, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Imagine how much uproar there'd be if the bloke had done something useful, anything at all, in the past 2 and a half seasons. The guy is a noxious weed and the sooner we see the back of him the better.

All I wish is that he'd see we're going places, get excited about the appointment of Goodwin, get excited about the trade period and who we could potentially land again..

But if course I don't know about clinical depression personally and how being at the MFC may well trigger some of those dark episodes again.. And I won't comment about it.

I still hold hope that he decides to stay.

I think the chances of that happening now lie somewhere between buckleys and bugger all.

I think the chances of that happening now lie somewhere between buckleys and bugger all.

i'd put it worse.....somewhere between bugger all and eff all

Heard Voss say something like he would like Mitch to "see something through, but he won't". The implication being that Mitch will take the easy way out if the going gets tough. Signs of a lack of mental toughness! . Lots of on-field physical courage but a 'fair weather sailor'!

I bet he won't make it at the next club either.

The Bulldogs will lose Crameri with the asada issue. So they will need a forward, we could off load Mr Clark to the kennell for someone like Hrovat or Tutt. I hate the filth with every ounce of my being and would rather rub wasabi in my [censored] eye than let them have something from us.

So it has been 11 days and 1727 posts in this thread since GNF 'broke' the big news

Are we really any the wiser as to what is going on?

Why do these things always take so long?

So it has been 11 days and 1727 posts in this thread since GNF 'broke' the big news

Are we really any the wiser as to what is going on?

Why do these things always take so long?

Reading between the lines it seems quite clear that Mitch wants to leave and Collingwood is his preferred destination. What isn't clear is is it the Dees who won't play ball with MC or MC who doesn't want to play ball with the Dees. Bottom line is MC will never play for the Dees again.

So it has been 11 days and 1727 posts in this thread since GNF Damien Barrett 'broke' the big news

The Bulldogs will lose Crameri with the asada issue. So they will need a forward, we could off load Mr Clark to the kennell for someone like Hrovat or Tutt. I hate the filth with every ounce of my being and would rather rub wasabi in my [censored] eye than let them have something from us.

The hypocrisy leaking out of Eddie's ears as he tries to explain how it was the best thing for everyone will be good for a laugh though.

So it has been 11 days and 1727 posts in this thread since GNF 'broke' the big news

Are we really any the wiser as to what is going on?

Why do these things always take so long?

I wouldn't be expecting to hear anything out of the club until after the AFL makes a determination on our "special assistance" submission

I get the feeling that the loss of "our best player" was one of the key planks in that submission.

I wouldn't be expecting to hear anything out of the club until after the AFL makes a determination on our "special assistance" submission

I get the feeling that the loss of "our best player" was one of the key planks in that submission.

Agree. Decision Monday.

If he was out of contract and wanted to leave, fair enough that's the nature of the sport now.

The fact that he was still contracted for next year yet we restructured it to pay him out on the udnerstanding we'd be the team he returned to if he was able to make a comeback and then go shopping round other clubs is what gets me. It's despicable behaviour and shows a complete lack of ethics and honour.

Well put, make no mistake it's a Grubs act.

AFL.com has an article with Buck's saying he has met with Mitch and he would love to have him on board and confirms that Mitch wants and needs a fresh start, doctor's orders apparently! Also confirms Hertier wants out so there could be a straight swap?

Dick move.