Melbourne asks for draft assistance

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-knocks-back-a-melbourne-priority-pick-20140923-10ky43.html

Knocked back

[Whispering_Jack 30,640]

Thanks AFL. Wonder what the excuse is this year? Change Clark's name to Hogan?

The reason why it took them so long to make it official was that they were trying to find a good excuse.

At least we know now that there won't be any draft assistance to St. Kilda if they are unfortunate enough to win the next few wooden spoons or to Essendon if they lose players due to ASADA infractions.

Meanwhile the stronger clubs continue to get massive assistance via plum fixtures and scholarship schemes made available to clubs like Sydney which provide them with top five draft picks for selection 20.

So we move on ...

[wattsup 470]

Might as well scrap it all together

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

AFL has told Dees the club is in better shape today than last year ...

Although that's true, the 2 reasons they explicitly stated we would not get one last year were Clark and Hogan. Neither played all year.

On that basis alone we should have been given an end of first rounder.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Becuase Frawley is leaving and Melbourne is likely to get pick 3, Melbourne won't get a PP.

I would have thought gaining the pick 3 and losing Frawley cancel each other out?

I don't care either way to be honest, I just find that excuse very weak.

[sue 9,142]

The reason why it took them so long to make it official was that they were trying to find a good excuse.

At least we know now that there won't be any draft assistance to St. Kilda if they are unfortunate enough to win the next few wooden spoons or to Essendon if they lose players due to ASADA infractions.

Meanwhile the stronger clubs continue to get massive assistance via plum fixtures and scholarship schemes made available to clubs like Sydney which provide them with top five draft picks for selection 20.

So we move on ...

Sorry WJ we don't know that. We might reasonably expect that, but this being the AFL anything may happen.

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

I can take the excuse that they simply don't want to spoil the drafts unless a club is on it's last dying legs.

But don't feed us crap about Hogan and Clark, or the list being in better shape or any other platitude.

[Radar Detector 1,347]

AFL has told Dees the club is in better shape today than last year ...

As of right now, we are in a worse position list wise than we were last year. We are losing our best forward and best back for the sum total of one first round pick (at best). We're not even allowed to keep pace with "inflation"

[Redleg 41,427]

Time to move on.

We should call for the scrapping of all draft interference effective immediately.

The end to COLA for interstate clubs.

The end to Academy selections.

An equitable fixture, giving all clubs the chance to maximise revenues.

The end to any extra draft and list benefits to GC and GWS.

An end to the PP rule.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

The more I think about this, the more I think it's just because of the Frawley comp. Although the two have nothing to do with each other, the AFL is all about looking good, and they probably think it would be a bad look if we had 3 picks in the first round.

Even if the cost of those 3 picks was:

Pick 2 - Being the second worst team in 2014

Pick 3 - Loosing the most sought after free agent in 2014

PP - Loosing 35 games in 8 seasons or whatever that stat was.

I bet if you asked any other team to pay that price for that reward, they wouldn't.

[old dee 23,872]

Then we now go as hard as possible on Clark.

As well we refuse to play most games in anything but our traditional jumper until Richmond, Essendon and Collingwood come up with geniune clash jumpers.

No more Mr. nice guys go for the jugular wherever possible.

And when the tide turns it will be time for revenge.

Remember it is dish best served cold

Edited September 23, 2014 by old dee

[TGR 1,367]

Frawley aint worth pick 3.

That is assistance in my book.

[Redleg 41,427]

AFL has told Dees the club is in better shape today than last year ...

Didn't know a subjective look at the list by an unnamed person was one of the criteria.

[Redleg 41,427]

Frawley aint worth pick 3.

That is assistance in my book.

No that is an AFL rule, just like the rule that allows the rich clubs to steal the best players from the weaker clubs without payment.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

To be expected. Absolue rubbish, but that's how the AFL works these days.

[old dee 23,872]

Didn't know a subjective look at the list by an unnamed person was one of the criteria.

said unnamed person obviously did not go to many MFC games this year

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Frawley aint worth pick 3.

That is assistance in my book.

Nope. He's worth an "after first pick FA compensation pick" or "tier 1" I think they call it.

Which for us, because we are horrible, is pick 3. If it was St Kilda, he'd be worth pick 2. If it was Sydney, he'd be worth Pick 19. The after first pick is supposed to be the equalising factor in compensation so bad teams get compensated more than good ones.

The offers we've read about would put him in the tier 1 category.

[Redleg 41,427]

The more I think about this, the more I think it's just because of the Frawley comp. Although the two have nothing to do with each other, the AFL is all about looking good, and they probably think it would be a bad look if we had 3 picks in the first round.

Even if the cost of those 3 picks was:

Pick 2 - Being the second worst team in 2014

Pick 3 - Loosing the most sought after free agent in 2014

PP - Loosing 35 games in 8 seasons or whatever that stat was.

I bet if you asked any other team to pay that price for that reward, they wouldn't.

What if the pick was first pick in the second round or the pick after our second round pick?

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

What if the pick was first pick in the second round or the pick after our second round pick?

Doesn't matter. Either way, the price we paid is too high. Not sure If I'm coming across right.

I'm trying to say we're grossly under compensated for what we've endured. Pick 4 or Pick 20, it doesn't matter. Either way, losing this much for 8 years isn't worth it.

BUT getting a PP, any PP, is better than nothing.

If it was a value proposition, no one would even consider paying the losses we have for a PP, even pick 1. I'm saying even pick 1 is under compensating for our extreme badness, and we don't even get that.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

The only time the rules don't matter if is the AFLs image is in jeopardy. How can any organisation rule like that? Are they even allowe to?

[BIG JIM 508]

Now watch them throw pick 10 at us for frawley.

[samcantstandya 1,057]

The only time the rules don't matter if is the AFLs image is in jeopardy. How can any organisation rule like that? Are they even allowe to?

The AFL are influenced 2 much by backlash other clubs wouldn't like it. They don't have any balls.

[daisycutter 29,737]

eddie say no

[Dr. Gonzo 24,293]

Time to move on.

We should call for the scrapping of all draft interference effective immediately.

The end to COLA for interstate clubs.

The end to Academy selections.

An equitable fixture, giving all clubs the chance to maximise revenues.

The end to any extra draft and list benefits to GC and GWS.

An end to the PP rule.

I agree we should but our admin is too weak and/or spineless to push these agendas.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Why though can we have what is rightfully ours denied because of hypotheticals? Are rules legally binding, or is that just laws?

Ahh MFC pushed over again. Another little bruise to add to the collection.