Training - Wednesday 18th December, 2013

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

I hope we start to see reward for effort, the players are working hard and one player that is pushing really hard is Jimmy Toumpas. This guy will be gem, I have seen a couple of training sessions and he is running with our elite runners, he covers a heap of ground through the drills, I just hope he gets the match day confidence through the Pre-season matches.

He also looks a lot bigger than last year (at least in photos) - check out the arms and shoulders :D

[CBDees 3,167]

I the absence of "Roger" here is a paste form saj_21 on the Big Footy Forum: >

Arrived around 9:40 seeing players warm up with kick to kick
Clark not sighted
Hogan taking some snaps from the boundry then goes across to AAMI park
Salem and King walking laps
Dawes i saw him speaking to one of the fitness guys and then disappears across the road
There was a small rehab group infront of me which consisted of;
Grimes (had his nose taped up) guessing they are keeping away from contact he ran sprints and laps fine
Bail and clisby ran sprints and laps for most of the morning
Riley running fine but only at 60% but seems unimpeded and the club easy him into full training
Kent similar to Riley but seemed a bit troubled by his knee
Westrup not injured i assume just giving him an easy session
Viney i saw do one half run through and shook his head to the fitness guys , a bit of a chat then disappeared
Blease joins rehab group after warm for a serious of small sprints, twists and turns
Jamar running sprints and laps
Dom tyson, JKH Vince Tapscott warm up together and then join main training group

Main group;
split into two groups half do a rolling "scrum" picking the ball of the ground and quick hands up, roll the ball out and repeat, group is all backline players including jetta. They then practice moving the ball out of the backline with small kicks wide to the pockets and then to HBF
Other half - warm up kicking drill mostly mids/fwds

Two groups join together for small warm up drills ball rolled out, pick up quick hands. Roos vocal players become more vocal as the drill progresses.

Left around 10:40

Then into another 3 man weave handball drill, after a few minutes roos adapts the drill upon blowing his whistle players are told to kick the ball to a leading forward in either direction. Players seem to focus on the old one-two to get a player into space facing the leading forward even if it means one or two extra handballs.

Some drill extended with bigger kicks and more space between players, more gut running. JKH really pushes hard after he handballs and getting to the forward targets feet. Hunt likewise, he is super quick he seems to leap and bound over the turf. Voice picks up as the drill goes on.

Full ground drill players in groups of 4-6 one in each goal square and one on each wing. Basically circle work to start with, players share a couple of handballs kick to the next group and encouraged by roos to push hard to where the ball was kicked.

Then as the drill progresses players take marks, push back chip kicks simulating coming out of the backline. All players moved well, skills where good i really only saw 3-4 missed kicks in the time i was there. The toump was very good in the last drill, but i may have watched him more closely because of the hype around him at the moment. No one really stood above the rest, nor did anyone stand out for not keeping up.

[beelzebub 23,364]

Thanks all. Excellent reports. God knows how some take it alk in but am grateful

The single element im really really happy to hear is we have a coach ....who coaches... who corrects mistakes who implores effort. Who knows wtf he's doing !!!

finally might see a team in red and blue tear it up !!

Refreshing

[Slartibartfast 17,265]

The single element im really really happy to hear is we have a coach ....who coaches... who corrects mistakes who implores effort. Who knows wtf he's doing !!!

The other major difference is the players are enjoying training. They turn up knowing they will work very hard but feel as though they are achieving something in the process rather than just running their guts out. They will be mentally much fresher this year and will probably have worked just as hard.

Interesting Frawley said Misson is responding to player feedback much more this season. I wonder what's changed?

[hardtack 10,537]

I the absence of "Roger" here is a paste form saj_21 on the Big Footy Forum: >

Nice report CBD... ;-)

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Long time ago.

OTH.

I guess that some think one year out of 10 is enough old.

One year of good football 9 years on the injury list still equates to being injured for most of the last 10 years.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

The other major difference is the players are enjoying training. They turn up knowing they will work very hard but feel as though they are achieving something in the process rather than just running their guts out. They will be mentally much fresher this year and will probably have worked just as hard.

Interesting Frawley said Misson is responding to player feedback much more this season. I wonder what's changed?

Yes I wonder.

Now, now, Bob, let's not derail again.

[rpfc 28,408]

Interesting Frawley said Misson is responding to player feedback much more this season.

“Misso (Dave Misson) has given more trust to the players and if the boys are a bit sore, he listens to the players about how their bodies are going. It’s been really good and hopefully I can remain on the track for the rest of the pre-season and get ready for a big year.”

I have had a coach who used to say 'the player knows their body better than any physio.'

Although, he was just trying to pressure blokes to come back too early and reject advice...

I take what Frawley is saying as that the players' programs were regimented last year and that this season they are able to end a session, spend it outside of full training, at their own behest.

The theory is that all players wish to train hard and be their best and improve on the track and so that desire will not allow them to slack off. I think it makes sense, if your leaders are setting the right example. If not, it all comes apart.

[monoccular 17,427]

Thanks for the report. Is it just me, or does it seem like Jamar has been injured for most of the last 10 years.

injured or doing sweet F all on the field, yes

Mark Jamar - All Australian 2010.....

Is that what is referred to as "a flash in the pan"?

[beelzebub 23,364]

We arent going to recognise this lot

There iS a Santa

[brandon105 0]

oo first ever post!

Should we be worried about Viney and Watts niggles?

Christmas break should be good for a few of the boys.

[CBDees 3,167]

oo first ever post!

Should we be worried about Viney and Watts niggles?

Christmas break should be good for a few of the boys.

Welcome to Demonland! Keep posting!

[old dee 23,788]

oo first ever post!

Should we be worried about Viney and Watts niggles?

Christmas break should be good for a few of the boys.

Welcome brandon105.

To answer you No.

We have little if any idea what the niggles are.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

oo first ever post!

Should we be worried about Viney and Watts niggles?

Christmas break should be good for a few of the boys.

Welcome brandon105. Don't get sucked in by MFCSS. Repeat after me: "we are on the rise!"

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

"Jamar running sprints". Sounds incongruous...even unlikely. But nevertheless, a pleasure to read.

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

Moon he wouldn't know what MFCSS is

[old dee 23,788]

Moon he wouldn't know what MFCSS is

He is not on his own.

What is it?

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Google is your friend. Also search bar on this site.

Edit: try this http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25604-mfcss/

Edited December 18, 2013 by Moonshadow

[old dee 23,788]

Google is your friend. Also search bar on this site.

Edit: try this http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25604-mfcss/

Thank you

[binman 42,920]

Google is your friend. Also search bar on this site.

Edit: try this http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25604-mfcss/

A great quote from that thread:

Well I believe I actually invented the term, correct me if I'm wrong.

It is always being misdiagnosed.

It's when we obviously have something good, the MFCSS sufferer will automatically build a defense mechanism for when this good thing is inevitably taken away.

Everything at MFC is too good to be true.

Eg.

Damn Liam Jurrah was exciting in his 3rd game, too bad he'll probably go back to the Northern Territory.

Unfortunate example! Even a fan with a severe dose of MFCSS would never have guessed that Liam returning to NT would not come close to capturing the full extent of the associated drama.

[old dee 23,788]

A great quote from that thread:

Well I believe I actually invented the term, correct me if I'm wrong.

It is always being misdiagnosed.

It's when we obviously have something good, the MFCSS sufferer will automatically build a defense mechanism for when this good thing is inevitably taken away.

Everything at MFC is too good to be true.

Eg.

Damn Liam Jurrah was exciting in his 3rd game, too bad he'll probably go back to the Northern Territory.

Unfortunate example! Even a fan with a severe dose of MFCSS would never have guessed that Liam returning to NT would not come close to capturing the full extent of the associated drama.

MFCSS is well based.

I would say expect the worst you usually get it!

[dee-luded 2,959]

Great report Tappy thanks.

plus 1

thanks tappy'squads

Edited December 18, 2013 by dee-luded

[daisycutter 29,613]

Thank you

beware though. the other end of the pendulum is MFCFS

(F=Fantasy not what you first thought)

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Welcome brandon105.

To answer you No.

We have little if any idea what the niggles are.

C'mon OD.

The niggles are called Stuies

[rpfc 28,408]

A great quote from that thread:

Well I believe I actually invented the term, correct me if I'm wrong.

It is always being misdiagnosed.

It's when we obviously have something good, the MFCSS sufferer will automatically build a defense mechanism for when this good thing is inevitably taken away.

Everything at MFC is too good to be true.

Eg.

Damn Liam Jurrah was exciting in his 3rd game, too bad he'll probably go back to the Northern Territory.

Unfortunate example! Even a fan with a severe dose of MFCSS would never have guessed that Liam returning to NT would not come close to capturing the full extent of the associated drama.

That quote is from DA...

Nasher - do you have all the data from the last 6 years? Need to settle who invented this term...

I could swear I did but it is also something DA would think of...

Anyway, it's alive and well but remember - just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you...

'Melbourne - We Are Terrible At Most Things'