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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

Sorry to hear that. Get well soon. I was in a bit of a bad mood earlier but also thought I'd provide a suggestion for all the crowd whilst out in such a nice day (or at least nice couple of hours when training was on the weather was top notch) that it is possible to watch training and be enjoying the sunshine). It was out of line so I apologise. Hoping in 2014 the team can bring us all a bit of good news.

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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

Good on you T 34 I am not sure where the Master was coming from. We all show up to support our team, I didn't know we all had to meet some physical aspiration set out by someone who calls himself the Master! For what it is worth I had achillies problems this year that has curtailed my tennis and running and as a result my weight has ballooned. Better not show up to training I suppose, at least until I can get my body back into shape.

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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

I think you speak for many T34. Great that you made the effort to get to training. Better than me, I didn't go, and I haven't had a stroke or busted knee. Motivates me to go soon. Good for you mate.

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Master seems to be the expert on everything... i even read him giving Jeremy Howe advice on how to mark the ball better? that is funny!

If you think Howe is a good mark when a defender blocks his run or engages in body contact then that's good for you. Personally for a guy who's going to play forward and be a marking target and is around 190cm he is a very poor mark in those circumstances. Especially as we know he has fantastic hands when going for a screamer or even when diving low for a mark.

I don't propose to teach Howe to mark a football when a defender bodies up to him. I'm not a football coach and whilst I could try I'm not sure I could set up good drills to teach this to Howe, but that doesn't mean I don't think that I'm 110% correct in saying that one on one marking is a flaw in Howe's game worth fixing. I also know that an absolute champion CHB in his day in Roos would probably understand something about taking away leaping forwards run and jump and therefore what a forward has to do to then win the contest.

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Good on you T 34 I am not sure where the Master was coming from. We all show up to support our team, I didn't know we all had to meet some physical aspiration set out by someone who calls himself the Master! For what it is worth I had achillies problems this year that has curtailed my tennis and running and as a result my weight has ballooned. Better not show up to training I suppose, at least until I can get my body back into shape.

Doing that should not be a prerequisite for showing some support.

Happy to hear thoughts on todays training but don't really need to hear about the world according to The Master.

Hope the achilles problems get sorted out.

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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

Mate sorry to hear about the stroke. Hope its a healthy recovery from here on

And i think i speak for many that live up in the country and no access to training, that we really appreciate the training reports! I get a thrilm reading them and im sure many others do.

I know i have paid out a bit on Saty lately but one thing i cant question is this blokes dedication to going down and watching the boys train and giving us the inside info. Keel it going Saty.

Thanks to everyone else on the training reports.

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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

FFS Why on earth do have to explain yourself? He's being absolutely obnoxious.

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Thanks all for the reports - those of us who can't get there appreciate it.

Re the players urinating "in public": surely the club could afford 4 stakes and a few meters of shade cloth to improvise a urinal at the side of the oval. It could be moved each session to prevent grass damage (or overgrowth if one believes in the fertilizing benefits of urea). As one poster commented, when Caro next gets bored with her own company ( which I have to say would be pretty easy to do) she could come out with a "feature scoop" on "MFC players exposing themselves in public": it is pretty harmless & minor in the scheme of things but probably just not a good look.

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Thanks all for the reports - those of us who can't get there appreciate it.

Re the players urinating "in public": surely the club could afford 4 stakes and a few meters of shade cloth to improvise a urinal at the side of the oval. It could be moved each session to prevent grass damage (or overgrowth if one believes in the fertilizing benefits of urea). As one poster commented, when Caro next gets bored with her own company ( which I have to say would be pretty easy to do) she could come out with a "feature scoop" on "MFC players exposing themselves in public": it is pretty harmless & minor in the scheme of things but probably just not a good look.

Great idea, could also dig a hole so players can ay a dump btw drills and fill it back in after training.

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Mate sorry to hear about the stroke. Hope its a healthy recovery from here on

And i think i speak for many that live up in the country and no access to training, that we really appreciate the training reports! I get a thrilm reading them and im sure many others do.

I know i have paid out a bit on Saty lately but one thing i cant question is this blokes dedication to going down and watching the boys train and giving us the inside info. Keel it going Saty.

Thanks to everyone else on the training reports.

Thanks for that, I will continue, as I said very thick skin, afraid a couple of posts went a bit too far there which is sad, when I keep reiterating we are all MFC supporters......would be nice though if that champion of 'egging on from the sidelines" Ben Hur offered up his apologies as well (not to me).....won't hold my breath

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Master I'm the guy in the blue t-shirt who recently suffered a stroke and also a busted knee which has resulted in weight gain but please don't let facts get in the way of off hand smart ass comments. Only makes you come across as an up yourself [censored] jockey but thats only one mans view.

At least you didn't have the red top on pulled up to show half your fat gut.

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Just left and the boys were still going. Due to a considerable night with a certain Mountain Goat last night I will keep this short because it's hurting to concentrate this much.

Happy to take questions.

Steam or Hightale?

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If you think Howe is a good mark when a defender blocks his run or engages in body contact then that's good for you. Personally for a guy who's going to play forward and be a marking target and is around 190cm he is a very poor mark in those circumstances. Especially as we know he has fantastic hands when going for a screamer or even when diving low for a mark. I don't propose to teach Howe to mark a football when a defender bodies up to him. I'm not a football coach and whilst I could try I'm not sure I could set up good drills to teach this to Howe, but that doesn't mean I don't think that I'm 110% correct in saying that one on one marking is a flaw in Howe's game worth fixing. I also know that an absolute champion CHB in his day in Roos would probably understand something about taking away leaping forwards run and jump and therefore what a forward has to do to then win the contest.

I don't think there's one forward going around that would be able to mark a ball if a defender 'blocks their run'. You can't do much if a defender blocks your run when your eyes are at the ball coming in. Not only that, you're not allowed to do it. So really it's a positive that you're talking about such an issue. Teams know that he'll mark anything if he gets a jump at it, so if trying to block his run is their only rebuttal, watch the free kicks come our way.

He's not a stay at home forward so I think it's pointless to talk about him not being as strong one on one. If we kick to his advantage, he'll mark it every time. He was never built like a strong bodied full forward. He doesn't play like one.

If you kick the ball to an advantageous position to where Howe and he's man are, I'll back him 9/10 times to use his aerial ability and mark the ball. It's the same with Fyfe.

To date, I've seen very few occasions where Howe has needed to use his body strength to outmuscle his opponent to mark a ball. It's a non-issue. If we have players that are kicking it to the middle of Howe and a bigger bodied opponent, then it's the kicker that's the problem. If you're going to bring up Howe's lack of body strength in one on one contests you may as well bring up McKenzies lack of... most things?

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