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There seems to be a growing consensus that Howe is a one trick pony and limited in what he can offer. I don't agree. He's been in the system for only three years, usually has great skills, is young,

"G'day mate, large Big Mac meal and some nuggets...... by the way did you hear? Taylor Adams for second round pick..... oh, and no pickles...."

Hogan is the only player on the list i wouldn't trade under any circumstances, so my comments on Howe are made from that perspective. Some say he lacks defensive pressure, I agree, and it's because h

Until i see a qoute from Adams saying he wants to go to Richmond or Collingwood then we are still in the race and this is nothing but a nothing article.

Lol, you are mad

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Perhaps it makes sense for the Dees to make Adams an outrageously high offer contingent on him going into the pre season draft. Retaining our high draft picks would be worth more than paying him and extra $100k or $200k per year and we would be guaranteed to get him.

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$400K per is a lot, but if we need to do it to get him over the line, I'd do it.

PSD, that is.

Worth the extra outlay that way.

$400K IS a lot, but we will need to offer more to beat other clubs to someone like Adams. Even though Roos is on board we still aren't a hugely attractive place to be... yet.

I'd rather try and work something out with GWS with Pick #2 to get him, although if they play hard ball then I'd be happy to get him in the PSD.

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$400K IS a lot, but we will need to offer more to beat other clubs to someone like Adams. Even though Roos is on board we still aren't a hugely attractive place to be... yet.

I'd rather try and work something out with GWS with Pick #2 to get him, although if they play hard ball then I'd be happy to get him in the PSD.

I'd rather get him for nothing in PSD. We have pick 2 after them. I'd offer big bucks as mooted upfront then staggered 2 scare them off.

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Swap pick 2 for Adams and Pick 10 ... thoughts

Try to get Adams and either of Crouch/Sheed with pick 10. That adds midfield grunt x2 to Viney and Jones.

I reckon the best bet of quick improvement is offering Adams $400,000-450,000 over three to four years and convincing him into the PSD. Then use pick #2 on Swallow, plus a first rounder back. Use this pick back to nab a Crouch. Sounds fanciful, but pretty darn good to me.

Viney, Jones, Adams, Swallow, Crouch, Toumpas, Trengove. There's a good mixture of good disposal, ball-winning ability and hardness. Inject a little bit of pace (will Blease ever become anything?) and a certain J Watts on the wing and who knows.

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I think a tapscott or strauss shiuld be put on the table to give us more currency for mids

I think that's where Howe should be put. On the trade table.

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It's a club fabric thing. We don't want another Junior situation on our hands. He seems to be entrenched within the club. For mine though, I'd be ecstatic with that deal. There will be some though that can't see past his high leaping and admittedly elite hands. Perhaps he could play an O'Keefe role, but I just don't see it. We have Hogan coming in, Clark and Dawes down there too. He appears to have value and as rpfc keeps saying (and I concur), we need assets to trade. He's one of them. Float him and see what clubs are offering. If nothing comes of it, at least we'll see if he has a second or third gear to push, with a thing or two to prove next year.

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Swap pick 2 for Adams and Pick 10 ... thoughts

Try to get Adams and either of Crouch/Sheed with pick 10. That adds midfield grunt x2 to Viney and Jones.

And if we're lucky, Dunstan or Jones will be available for our second rounder (maybe we take both - if Sylvia decides to go).

Adams, Crouch, Dunstan, Jones Jnr, Viney, Toumpas and Jones. We all thought the same thing back in 2009, but surely, that might have the makings of a good midfield.

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Everybody still seems to be factoring getting a pick for Sylvia notwithstanding the fact that Roos expressively announced that him and Watts were part of his plan for Melbourne. Are we suggesting that our football judgement is sounger than Roos or that Sylvia has no ego or love for the jumper to want to stay with his teamates under Roos (as did Watts)?

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Everybody still seems to be factoring getting a pick for Sylvia notwithstanding the fact that Roos expressively announced that him and Watts were part of his plan for Melbourne. Are we suggesting that our football judgement is sounger than Roos or that Sylvia has no ego or love for the jumper to want to stay with his teamates under Roos (as did Watts)?

My ideas are just based on history, i'm not sure I can remember anyone putting talks on hold this long and staying, I get that it's a big call for him though, probably his last real contract and he has a right to take his time, and my preference is certainly for him to stay.

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