Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[jnrmac 19,253]

I remember my astonishment ( but not the year) when the Weagles ran out at Waverley in an early round looking like toy Action Men !

Remember Cousins coming out one year after what must have been an amazing summer on the juice. Went from boy to Schwartzenegger in 10 weeks

[Dee Fan 3,247]

She couldnt even pronounce his name correctly... A grade journalism

With that set of I'll fitting false teeth I'm surprised she can pronounce any words.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Remember Cousins coming out one year after what must have been an amazing summer on the juice. Went from boy to Schwartzenegger in 10 weeks

Something in his "genes" allowed him to train 24 hours a day, even when he was driving he'd get out of the car and run along beside it.

[rjay 23,995]

Please bring Grant Thomas back or someone who is prepared to say what needs to be said even if it isn't right. It's all vanilla, AD doesn't lie, please give me a break....

What a choice; Lyon, Wilson, Hutchy and Lloyd or Sheahan , Healy and Roos.

Think I will stick with Finey or is that "Viney".

[McQueen 17,864]

Well, maybe the Demons have been a really good side for the last few years. Just looked awful because everyone else was cheating.

Very good, sue.

[Guest fitness]

This from the bottom of an article on the Herald Sun tonight:

And a former Melbourne footballer claims Mr Charter used to advise several Demons players on what to take to aid performance and recover "like European cyclists".

"He put me on a range of injections and supplements. I didn't know what the f--- I was taking, but my recovery was outstanding," the former player said. "I felt unstoppable some days.

"It cost me $10,000 so it wasn't cheap."

Mr Charter's partner, Donna, last night defended him, saying despite his prison past he was not involved in anything illegal now.

[old dee 22,966]

Very good, sue.

oh no did we fling all those players and all we had to was give them a few pills!

[Sydney Pennski 270]

Lloyd soft as butter and won't last on the programme ... disappointed that Garry didn't give her a whack for all of her BS posturing over the off season.

This is what I call interesting vision:-

http://youtu.be/hczyUcC4ONk

[Dan Fantastik 50]

Go read bay 13 on big footy about tanking then get back to me, they deserve everything coming there way.

Mate, I can just imagine the crap they are saying in the bay, but those types of supporters make up perhaps .1% of the supporter base, and every club has them. The other 99.9% of the essendon supporters are just normal football fans (like Yourself) who are passionate about there club and just want to see there team play each week. They had no control over the use of drugs at there club but ultimately they could pay the price.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,484]

Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

Ah that is all we need now. If Caro gets a scent of this she will be straight on it. Why cant he just keep his trap shut. Wonder if he will have the audacity to turn up at our games.

[Fork 'em 6,565]

Mate, I can just imagine the crap they are saying in the bay, but those types of supporters make up perhaps .1% of the supporter base, and every club has them. The other 99.9% of the essendon supporters are just normal football fans (like Yourself) who are passionate about there club and just want to see there team play each week. They had no control over the use of drugs at there club but ultimately they could pay the price.

Fork 'em.

The sooner they fold the better.

[H_T 2,941]

This from the bottom of an article on the Herald Sun tonight:

And a former Melbourne footballer claims Mr Charter used to advise several Demons players on what to take to aid performance and recover "like European cyclists".

"He put me on a range of injections and supplements. I didn't know what the f--- I was taking, but my recovery was outstanding," the former player said. "I felt unstoppable some days.

"It cost me $10,000 so it wasn't cheap."

Mr Charter's partner, Donna, last night defended him, saying despite his prison past he was not involved in anything illegal now.

CH 7 News earlier tonight said Woewodin was linked to Mr Charter prior to his link with Hird.

Article from Herald-Sun detailing Woewodin & Hird :- http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-james-hird-linked-to-convicted-drug-trafficker-shane-charter/story-fnelctok-1226572461168

PS. Gardner on 2GB? - 2GB?? - I wonder who contacted who....

Edited February 7, 2013 by H_T
Added link

[keep13alive 78]

Mate, I can just imagine the crap they are saying in the bay, but those types of supporters make up perhaps .1% of the supporter base, and every club has them. The other 99.9% of the essendon supporters are just normal football fans (like Yourself) who are passionate about there club and just want to see there team play each week. They had no control over the use of drugs at there club but ultimately they could pay the price.

99% of them sure behaved like their online personas at the 2000 GF.The longer and harder they suffer the happier I'll be.If Carlscum can some how join the party......rapture.

Edited February 7, 2013 by keep13alive

[dee-luded 2,958]

ASADA have however clearly stated that ignorance is no defence.

& thery can't allow that either.

that would end up being the biggest window, one could back a semi trailer through it & turn it around in a 3 pt turn.

there can not be any easing up in this other than penalties for fessing up.

anyone who doesn't come clean, & has to be tracked down, ah la armstrong,,, shopuld be wiped out!

[dee-luded 2,958]

surf's up !!

left to fight them on the beaches, & returned to his sandcastle to find it awash in pep tides.

he'll need a life support package after this & a dummy.

[McQueen 17,864]

Footy Classified. What a lame panel of commentators.

Garry, GTF out of there. You're losing credibility sitting with those clowns.

[Carrot Top 947]

Ah that is all we need now. If Caro gets a scent of this she will be straight on it. Why cant he just keep his trap shut. Wonder if he will have the audacity to turn up at our games.

And we've got people that post here that support that regime?

They ought to be run out of the club.

[Jack Jack 415]

Stephen Dank openly marketed banned substances

Stephen Dank, the football club's performance scientist, co-owns the Sydney-based Medical Rejuvenation Clinic, which boasts "a substantial range of Australian-produced Protein Peptides ... at very competitive prices".

Its website makes special reference to 15 products, including GHRP-6, CJC-1295, IGF-1, SARM, Hexarelin and MGF, which the Therapeutic Goods Administration said were "not registered for use in Australia" and "should not be available for commercial supply or sale".

For someone that refuses to do interviews, he certainly knows how to draw attention to himself.

[Chelly 747]

Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

The fact that someone tweeted this doesn't mean it happened.

I'd like some corroboration that Gardner said these things before I jumped to any conclusions about him or about what was alleged.

[45HG 1,539]

I think I've missed something, but the old ASADA chief said that its all up to the laboratory now -if the supplements are found to be fine it'll be ok, but if they're banned then Pandora's box will have been opened.

What substance is he talking about? Have things been confiscated? From where?

[mjt 640]

The fact that someone tweeted this doesn't mean it happened.

I'd like some corroboration that Gardner said these things before I jumped to any conclusions about him or about what was alleged.

They way he conducts himself these days its hard not to jump to conclusions.

[TRIGON 4,719]

Mate, I can just imagine the crap they are saying in the bay, but those types of supporters make up perhaps .1% of the supporter base, and every club has them. The other 99.9% of the essendon supporters are just normal football fans (like Yourself) who are passionate about there club and just want to see there team play each week. They had no control over the use of drugs at there club but ultimately they could pay the price.

Yes Dan, haven't stirred up my Bomber fan mates about this issue...the last thing an Essendon person requires right now is a little needle.

[Muvver Jones 64]

I don't believe there are any AFL clubs that are not tainted by this drug scandal to some degree be it systematic abuse from the club or by individual players. I believe the AFL should take control of approved supplements, medications and substances and ensure all these products are channeled through an organisation or agency under their control. Any substance supplied by outsiders would be strictly forbidden and players and clubs will have no excuses if caught and harsh penalties will be applied for abusers.

Edited February 7, 2013 by Muvver Jones

[H_T 2,941]

I think I've missed something, but the old ASADA chief said that its all up to the laboratory now -if the supplements are found to be fine it'll be ok, but if they're banned then Pandora's box will have been opened.

What substance is he talking about? Have things been confiscated? From where?

I saw that interview on FoxSports News last night.

I thought that too - how did they obtain / confiscate substances from - last year?? Were they the substances used? Or the documented substances that were used??

Surely the other alternative of evidence is the same sort of testimonies and information at large that weighed down on Armstrong. But that could take an eternity for people to come forward.

There's a very real possibility that nothing of concern will be found in "those" substances obtained.

[The Chazz 4,077]

hey billy how the hell do you flat pack a sink , ?????? ok your an office boy , carry on , and billy some girls are very good on the tools

Barndee, I really don't know if your post is taking the pi$$ or not. I hope for your sake it is, but I'm unsure if you would be capable of doing that, given that you totally missed that I was in my post.