Tippett the AFL & GWS

[dee-luded 2,959]

seems GWS is going off, on Tippett, as expected after lawyers were involved & litigation imminent.

deals within deals, wheels within wheels, & steak-knives involved somewhere surely?

GWS reconsiders recruiting Tippett

a happy looking, but a bit Kurt, tippett

Kurt Tippett leaves the AFL Commission hearing. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-reconsiders-recruiting-tippett-20121201-2ang3.html#ixzz2DwLkWqnJ

Has Greater Western Sydney ever really been keen to snare controversial former Crow Kurt Tippett, or was its supposed interest just another attention-seeking ploy from the AFL’s newest club?

Reading between the lines of the latest official statement on the matter, we may never know, as it appears the outcome of the AFL Commission hearing into Tippett’s final Crows contract has made Kevin Sheedy’s club reconsider their potential quarry.

Giants chief executive David Matthews made the following statement in relation to Tippett.

"We note the sanctions handed down by the AFL Commission today and we now have a clear understanding of Kurt Tippett’s availability for the 2013 season," he said.

"We now want to see the financial terms on which he will nominate for next month’s draft so we can assess his affordability.

"We also have to consider whether he is the right fit for the club as we continue to build a strong culture amongst our young playing group.

"These are all factors we will now carefully consider over the coming days before making a decision on whether to draft him with our first selection."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-reconsiders-recruiting-tippett-20121201-2ang3.html#ixzz2DwM4Wym4

[Clark_Kent 315]

Does anyone else think Tippet looked ridiculous? Like he has spent way too long in the solarium?

[Slartibartfast 16,882]

I wonder if we thought of taking him in the PSD and then trading him next year to the highest bidder. His salary would have been the cost of upgrading the PSD pick to a (say) first rounder.

It's obscene that the Premiers can afford him and fit him in their structure and GWS can't.

[biggestred 4,797]

given he will miss 11 games and GWS wont play finals (sydney will and will then have a cherry ripe tippett to slot into their forward line) in the short term he will be paid far too much for this year by gws but not by sydney.

gws could afford him if they hadnt paid voldemort so much.

sydneys players also have probably taken less money to stay at sydney because they know their culture is so good.

[skills32 229]

I think that the AFL has guaranteed him a clear path to the Swans in return for him not taking any further legal action into this matter.

He could sue both Adelaide and the AFL for loss of wages etc and probably win.

The AFL are scared of going to court on any wages issue because they will lose.

But it will happen one day, maybe.

[Nasher 33,607]

It's obscene that the Premiers can afford him and fit him in their structure and GWS can't.

Maybe they don't want to take him because he's revealed himself to be a complete flog with a psychopathic father. Given they apparently passed on Toumpas purely so they could build a list that gels quicker by taking the less talented but pre-bonded Victorian players, it doesn't seem out of the question to me.

[Demonsterative 3,017]

I can't help thinking if GWS had the power of hind sight, they would swap Scully and Fats Scully (my finger burns typing their names) for Tippet. I laugh that d#*% head and his family have restricted Tippett being taken in this draft. I'd rather see the Swans win multiple premierships than see GWS play one finals game

[dee-luded 2,959]

given he will miss 11 games and GWS wont play finals (sydney will and will then have a cherry ripe tippett to slot into their forward line) in the short term he will be paid far too much for this year by gws but not by sydney.

gws could afford him if they hadnt paid voldemort so much.

sydneys players also have probably taken less money to stay at sydney because they know their culture is so good.

I suspect GWS can afford him with a bit of a juggle, but IMO the deal has been struck behind the scenes & tippett is off to Swans.

saves court time & dirty linen aired down William Street.

[Sir Why You Little 36,624]

I can't help thinking if GWS had the power of hind sight, they would swap Scully and Fats Scully (my finger burns typing their names) for Tippet. I laugh that d#*% head and his family have restricted Tippett being taken in this draft. I'd rather see the Swans win multiple premierships than see GWS play one finals game

I tend to agree...Tom$ second $ea$on will be fascinating...He really has to show something.

Maybe Israel has already done it....Take the $$$ and RUN......

[dee-luded 2,959]

I think that the AFL has guaranteed him a clear path to the Swans in return for him not taking any further legal action into this matter.

He could sue both Adelaide and the AFL for loss of wages etc and probably win.

The AFL are scared of going to court on any wages issue because they will lose.

But it will happen one day, maybe.

restraint of trade, not the first tho.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I tend to agree...Tom$ second $ea$on will be fascinating...He really has to show something.

Maybe Israel has already done it....Take the $$$ and RUN......

Still has 5 years on his contract to go.

5 years.

[biggestred 4,797]

Still has 5 years on his contract to go.

5 years.

everytime i read one of your posts, in my head i finish it with

"im ron burgundy, go [censored] yourself san diego"

[low flying Robbo 979]

I still don't fully understand the next draft... do players get to name their wages?

What if someone were to draft someone then they could not come to an agreement on payment?

[Nasher 33,607]

I still don't fully understand the next draft... do players get to name their wages?

What if someone were to draft someone then they could not come to an agreement on payment?

Yes, they get to name their wages. By drafting them, you're automatically agreeing to their terms with regards to payment, there's no further agreement to be had.

[Waltham33 475]

The Sydney Acquistion fund in full effect!

[Sideshow Bob 2,237]

From the age

The next instalment of the Tippett saga will come in the next couple of days, when the AFL Players Association announces who will head an inquiry into the handling of the contract by his manager, Peter Blucher.

Blucher faces potential deregistration as a player agent after the uncovering of the contract rorting that accompanied Tippett's re-signing with the Crows in 2009.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tippett-sets-out-draft-terms-20121203-2ar4s.html#ixzz2E2FqB7xq

Warms the cockles of the heart, the man behind the TS/GWS deal to get deregistered

[Sir Why You Little 36,624]

We should all accompany Blucher down to Centrelink...Just to make sure he doesn't run away.

Saul Goodman based his practise on Blucher....

[Chook 14,997]

We should all accompany Blucher down to Centrelink...Just to make sure he doesn't run away.

Saul Goodman based his practise on Blucher....

Please! Saul Goodman never got caught.

[Sir Why You Little 36,624]

Sorry Chook you are right.

At least Saul has some hutzpah...

[jnrmac 19,890]

It's obscene that the Premiers can afford him and fit him in their structure and GWS can't.

What a great laugh I had reading that!

Are you saying they can't afford Tippet cos they have spent their massively enlarged salary cap on the likes of Tom and Phil Scully, Israel Folau, Ward etc and that you think that is wrong???

WTF man??!?!?@?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

seems GWS is going off, on Tippett, as expected after lawyers were involved & litigation imminent.

deals within deals, wheels within wheels, & steak-knives involved somewhere surely?

GWS reconsiders recruiting Tippett

a happy looking, but a bit Kurt, tippett

Kurt Tippett leaves the AFL Commission hearing. Photo: Sebastian Costanzo

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-reconsiders-recruiting-tippett-20121201-2ang3.html#ixzz2DwLkWqnJ

Has Greater Western Sydney ever really been keen to snare controversial former Crow Kurt Tippett, or was its supposed interest just another attention-seeking ploy from the AFL’s newest club?

Reading between the lines of the latest official statement on the matter, we may never know, as it appears the outcome of the AFL Commission hearing into Tippett’s final Crows contract has made Kevin Sheedy’s club reconsider their potential quarry.

Giants chief executive David Matthews made the following statement in relation to Tippett.

"We note the sanctions handed down by the AFL Commission today and we now have a clear understanding of Kurt Tippett’s availability for the 2013 season," he said.

"We now want to see the financial terms on which he will nominate for next month’s draft so we can assess his affordability.

"We also have to consider whether he is the right fit for the club as we continue to build a strong culture amongst our young playing group.

"These are all factors we will now carefully consider over the coming days before making a decision on whether to draft him with our first selection."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/gws-reconsiders-recruiting-tippett-20121201-2ang3.html#ixzz2DwM4Wym4

Why would you state the second part of the highlighted sentence unless you'd already made a decision that you didn't want him? In my opinion, if GWS were seriously considering Tippett they would have just said, " We also have to consider whether he is the right fit for the club". Adding in that bit about building a strong culture suggests GWS has serious concerns about what Team Tippett (meaning player, father, agent and any other hangers-on) would do for that culture...and for some reason wanted to say so.

[Mono 455]

Yes, they get to name their wages. By drafting them, you're automatically agreeing to their terms with regards to payment, there's no further agreement to be had.

What I don't understand is why refusing to meet with a club prior to a draft (eg Tippett/GWS, Ball/any club) is not tampering with the draft. Seems to me any player can walk from a club, refuse to meet with any club other than the one they choose, then head to that club of choice.

How is that not tampering with the draft?

Draft is irrelevant except for first time listings. Only a matter of time before they "refuse to meet" certain clubs.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Why would you state the second part of the highlighted sentence unless you'd already made a decision that you didn't want him? In my opinion, if GWS were seriously considering Tippett they would have just said, " We also have to consider whether he is the right fit for the club". Adding in that bit about building a strong culture suggests GWS has serious concerns about what Team Tippett (meaning player, father, agent and any other hangers-on) would do for that culture...and for some reason wanted to say so.

They the AFL & GWS either did want him at GWS @ one stage, Or just Sheeds wanted him at some stage, but got the no-no from HQ.

Or they all just wanted to put the wind up tippett for a few weeks to not give him a totally free ride to east Sydney... Also they wouldn't want other players thinking they can just pull the same ruse, to get what they want.

So a bit of scaremongering is surely about all they can do, without testing the whole thing in the courts.

But IMO he's on his way east to the Swans. IMO already sanctioned & done & dusted. but we'll see.

[dee-luded 2,959]

What I don't understand is why refusing to meet with a club prior to a draft (eg Tippett/GWS, Ball/any club) is not tampering with the draft. Seems to me any player can walk from a club, refuse to meet with any club other than the one they choose, then head to that club of choice.

How is that not tampering with the draft?

Draft is irrelevant except for first time listings. Only a matter of time before they "refuse to meet" certain clubs.

I think thats just how fragile the whole thing must be.

[low flying Robbo 979]

Yes, they get to name their wages. By drafting them, you're automatically agreeing to their terms with regards to payment, there's no further agreement to be had.

Cheers for the info. I agree with Mono that it could be too easy to tamper this draft