Changes for next week vs West Coast

[deesrule 104]

Green and Howe can't play together on the forward line

Davey as mentioned above had 5 tackles 2 run downs in the first quarter. He needs another crumber in the front but someone to help also with forward pressure.

Rivers seems to be always playing on someone half a head taller than him maybe he would be better forward or perhaps playing a sweeping role back like grimes. Maybe Grimes would be better forward.

We need more pace in the midfield.

[Guest Jackie]

Interesting article from Rohan Connolly in the Age. Is daring Neeld to make the big statement and drop the defunct leadership group fro next week

[GM11 703]

Agree on both of these. Howe was still good today, but I'm not a fan of the attempted speccy every time he goes near it. He dropped about 6 marks today. Frustrating stuff.

Jamar was terrible. Slow, out of it, like the Jamar of pre-2010. I hate the way he gets the ball and immediately looks to dish it off (e.g. third quarter in the 50, when, on his left, he should have kicked for goal, but he chose to handball it away). But the biggest worry was his ruckwork. Completely dominated by Hudson and Leuenberger, which is part of the reason why we struggled in the clearances.

Stats say different. He had more kicks marks & hit outs than any ruckman on the ground.

I thought he tried his guts out, as distinct from a few others.

Problem was, our on ballers were pantsed, too many plodders.

Lions onballers ran away from the stoppages unopposed all day.

[hardtack 10,186]

This may sound a little defeatist, although I prefer to think of it as being realistic, as we are going to be pushing it uphill to come anywhere near West Coast, Neeld should do what Rohan Connolly is suggesting in today's Age and dump the likes of Brad Green, Aaron Davey, Brent Moloney and Jared Rivers (last year's leaders).

I would like to see Bennell come in, but not as a back... I would prefer to see him playing the small crumbing forward role as his pace and good hands are probably what we need. Sellar and Tapscott could move into the back line to replace MacDonald and Rivers and the Gys or Couch could come in for Moloney.

Edited April 2, 2012 by hardtack

[DemonWA 3,571]

My lasting memories of last year’s annihilation at Subi was Grimes, Garland and Frawley getting allot of the ball under pressure and turning it over to the eagles press. I think we’re in for more of the same. Priddis also destroyed us.

Neeld has been very confident and self assured since he got the gig. The next month or so will test him. I hope he sticks to his guns, but at the same time he should be prepared to tinker with the way he ultimately wants the guys to play for some short term respite. No point letting the boys be thrashed week in week out because he’s too proud, or dead against playing a tagger.

In terms of changing things up lets get Bennell and maybe even Davey through the half back flanks and try to occasionally run the ball out through their press? Also lets try Grimes on the ball, where his lack of match practice and suspect disposal under pressure wont hurt us on the score board

I expect wholesale changes, yes maybe even this drastic;

INS: Bennell, Couch, Gysberts, Dunn, McDonald

OUT: MacDonald, Green, Rivers, McKenzie, Bartram

I'll be sitting in the stands at Subi this week, hoping to see an improved effort.

[Arsene Wenger 72]

This may sound a little defeatist, although I prefer to think of it as being realistic, as we are going to be pushing it uphill to come anywhere near West Coast, Neeld should do what Rohan Connolly is suggesting in today's Age and dump the likes of Brad Green, Aaron Davey, Brent Moloney and Jared Rivers (last year's leaders).

I would like to see Bennell come in, but not as a back... I would prefer to see him playing the small crumbing forward role as his pace and good hands are probably what we need. Sellar and Tapscott could move into the back line to replace MacDonald and Rivers and the Gys or Couch could come in for Moloney.

I wouldn't mind this approach either.

But i think Bartram and Macdonald need to be dropped.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

Out-Bartrim and Mckenzie forever.

In-Anyone with a heart for the contest,every contest.

I would have thought the two players with the biggest "heart for the contest" would be Bartram and McKenzie. Their problems are with skill, not endeavour.

In my view, the outs should be Joel MacDonald (I thought he fumbled too much and took some poor options), Blease (has pace which he'll use when he has the ball, but not when it's his turn to chase), Tynan (because he's not ready, but I like what I saw) and McKenzie (too slow). Bring in Petterd as a straight swap for Blease; Gysberts for McKenzie; Tapscott for Joel MacDonald and Bennell/Morton for Tynan. Also, put Bartram into McKenzie's run with role; and move Bail to take on Bartram's small defender role.

I don't see a need to fiddle with the tall players, the problem was with the runners exacerbated by having a slow backline (another reason for Joel Mac to go - it's unbalanced having him plus Rivers, Frawley and Garland).

Edited April 2, 2012 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[biggestred 4,401]

davey out. no questions asked.

bate starts.

tynan was fine in the first half, and he battled hard. give him another go.

blease out - not acceptable.

green out - learn to hold a mark mate.

IN - SECOND EFFORTS

[rpfc 27,657]

I've got a 4 year old son who I have been steering towards being a Dee fan, but is it fair on him? I don't think so. I'm going to let him choose for himself I think.

Builds character.

You don't get to choose your family or your footy team.

[old dee 23,109]

Builds character.

You don't get to choose your family or your footy team.

Unfortunately you do get to choice your team.

As a large number of non MFC members have done.

[Knuckles 73]

In - Sellar, Morton, Couch and Gysberts

Out - MacDonald, Rivers, Davey and Green

I also think players like McDonald, Davis and even possibly Sheahan need to be early in the year. When that time comes they need more than one or two games in a row. Give them a month to settle in unless they clearly are not cutting it.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Knuckles

[Ouch! 2,092]

In - Sellar, Morton, Tapscott, Gysberts and Petterd

Out - MacDonald, Rivers, Davey, Moloney and Green

(5 changes after round 1 is the sort of statement I would like to see Neeld make.... I can't see it happening, I reckon 3 changes is more likely)

[Jonesbag 487]

Out: Joel Mac (bloody shocking) Green (an young bloke can do what he does, get a new kid in there Lawrence maybe?) Rivers (rising star my ass)

In: Morton Tapscott Petterd

There the people id like to see dropped and the people id like to see in. Im not replacing them in the positions they are being taken out of.

FWIW i thought sammy blease first half was fine, his dash through the middle and shot on goal was the most exciting part of the day for me. He has only played 6 AFL games (correct me if im wrong) hes a young bloke that is worth putting the time and games in to.

[rpfc 27,657]

I don't know if they will 'make a statement' with their selections as there are two statements to make...

1) Those that (passionately) butchered the footy and are (seemingly) having trouble with the gamestyle: Batram, Bail, McKenzie, MacDonald, Jones, Blease and Tynan.

2) Those that don't seem to give a flying and revolt rpfc with their body language: Moloney, Rivers, Green, Jamar, and (to a lesser extent I thought, but to excuse him would be wrong) Davey.

I see Morton, Couch, McDonald (tall), Sellar, Dunn and Bate as close to the 21.

Maybe a morph message with Subiaco in mind? (ie. keep the runners...)

OUT: Moloney, Rivers, Green, MacDonald, and Batram.

That would be a message...

[old dee 23,109]

Out: Joel Mac (bloody shocking) Green (an young bloke can do what he does, get a new kid in there Lawrence maybe?) Rivers (rising star my ass)

In: Morton Tapscott Petterd

There the people id like to see dropped and the people id like to see in. Im not replacing them in the positions they are being taken out of.

FWIW i thought sammy blease first half was fine, his dash through the middle and shot on goal was the most exciting part of the day for me. He has only played 6 AFL games (correct me if im wrong) hes a young bloke that is worth putting the time and games in to.

You are going to drop Green in preference to Davey or Blease!

[Jonesbag 487]

You are going to drop Green in preference to Davey or Blease!

I predict davey will be delisted come the weekend......

As for blease, 6 games in. Give him time

[Face Your Demons 175]

Did anyone else watch the Sunday Footy Show and get the feeling the Green as already been told his career is over. Might be wrong but he really looked shellshocked on Sunday. No smiles like after the 186 bashing last year.

[olisik 4,060]

I want to see Moloney dropped, i think his bully antics is ruining the confidence in the other young Mids. These guys do not work together.

I want to see how the guys play in the mid-field without being yelled at all day and possibly build a bit of a bond so that there can be some chemistry in there.

[Arsene Wenger 72]

I don't know if they will 'make a statement' with their selections as there are two statements to make...

1) Those that (passionately) butchered the footy and are (seemingly) having trouble with the gamestyle: Batram, Bail, McKenzie, MacDonald, Jones, Blease and Tynan.

2) Those that don't seem to give a flying and revolt rpfc with their body language: Moloney, Rivers, Green, Jamar, and (to a lesser extent I thought, but to excuse him would be wrong) Davey.

I see Morton, Couch, McDonald (tall), Sellar, Dunn and Bate as close to the 21.

Maybe a morph message with Subiaco in mind? (ie. keep the runners...)

OUT: Moloney, Rivers, Green, MacDonald, and Batram.

That would be a message...

THis is my thinking, but who comes in?

Tapscott, Strauss, McDonald, Couch, Dunn..?

I also think Magner will be out with injury.

[rpfc 27,657]

I want to see Moloney dropped, i think his bully antics is ruining the confidence in the other young Mids. These guys do not work together.

I want to see how the guys play in the mid-field without being yelled at all day and possibly build a bit of a bond so that there can be some chemistry in there.

FFS, no one cares that the kids are 'yelled at.'

You bring this up as often as we get full moons and it isn't the reason we are this shite.

If Moloney gets dropped he would have earnt it without the bully tag.

[olisik 4,060]

FFS, no one cares that the kids are 'yelled at.'

You bring this up as often as we get full moons and it isn't the reason we are this shite.

If Moloney gets dropped he would have earnt it without the bully tag.

Would you work well with someone yelling in your ear all day? or have chemistry with them?

He seems like a lone soldier out there and there is a reason why.

[titan_uranus 22,912]

Stats say different. He had more kicks marks & hit outs than any ruckman on the ground.

I thought he tried his guts out, as distinct from a few others.

Problem was, our on ballers were pantsed, too many plodders.

Lions onballers ran away from the stoppages unopposed all day.

I don't care what the stats say. Jamar was crap. He was lethargic and disinterested at times, his hit outs, whether he got more or not, were ineffectual, whereas Leuenberger and Hudson tapped to advantage. I'm not denying our mids were beaten by theirs, but Jamar was also beaten by their rucks.

I don't know if they will 'make a statement' with their selections as there are two statements to make...

1) Those that (passionately) butchered the footy and are (seemingly) having trouble with the gamestyle: Batram, Bail, McKenzie, MacDonald, Jones, Blease and Tynan.

Bail was fine.

Also I'm unsure as to how you can decide who is having trouble with the gamestyle. 1) What is it? 2) How can you differentiate between those who knew what they were doing and those who didn't, given almost all of them looked like they were struggling.

[DemonWA 3,571]

2) Those that don't seem to give a flying and revolt rpfc with their body language:

classic

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

My 22 for WCE

Ins: McDonald - Sellar

Outs: MacDonald - Blease

FB: Garland (Nic Nat - Cox) - Frawley (Kennedy) - Bartram (Hill)

HB: Bail (Hams) - Sellar (Q Lynch) - Rivers (Darling)

C: Jones (Priddis) - Magner - Trengove

HF: Howe (Waters) - Watts - Petterd (Hurn)

FF: Davey - Clark - Green

R: Jamar - Moloney - Grimes

I: Martin - McDonald - Bate

S: Tynan

Howe - Needs to make Waters accountable and hurt him on the scoreboard

Petterd - Needs to shut down his run and make him accountable

Jones - Can go with Priddis and stop kick clearance work

Martin and Jamar - Dont let Nic Nat jump at it. His palm work is 2nd to none. Critical to standing a chance.

Petterd and Green to join in the mids rotation

Davey - Thin ice

Watts - Show us your speed and endurance - You need to work and work and work on this ground

Edited April 2, 2012 by daveytrain1

[BarrassHarrass 25]

I wanna see Tom McDonald, Tom Couch, Sellar, Tappy and Gysberts in the side and I could not give a toss who goes out. They were all equally pathetic. I think the axe ought to fall on the experienced players though.