Round 14: Melbourne v West Coast

[Hobbits's 17]

West Coast - Won 3 Lost 9

Melbourne - Won 1 Lost 11

As much as nearly everyone wants a win here on Demonland asap, this game in two weeks time will go a long way to determining the following....

1/ If Melbourne lose

a) Almost confirms Melbourne receives the wooden spoon and picks 1 & 2 in the National draft

b Puts West Coast in doubt for Priority Pick for Draft (no room to move - 1 more win and it's all gone)

2/ If Melbourne win

a) Wooden Spoon up for grabs

b Puts Doubt of obtaining Picks 1 & 2 - more likely 1 and 3

c) West Coast favoured to get a priority pick at end of year.

Who do you want to win this game?

[Carn dees 108]

i hope we show good signs and loose due umpire or our own lack of conversion, beating westcaost doesnt prove much.

[PeterJames 46]

Would love to smash them by 100 points!!!!!

[RalphiusMaximus 6,012]

There was a lovely article last year about Melbourne not understanding how to Tank properly. It went back to a mid-season match a few years ago when Melbourne for no apparent reason decided to get up and beat Brisbane at the Gabba. This resulted in us getting one win too many that season and in the end cost us the priority pick with which to pick up Kreuzer.

It's beginning to look to me like things might be heading down the same path again. Our supporters are desperate for hope and want us to pull off a win against one of the decent sides in the competition, but in the long run to do so would cause us to lose far more than we gain. Imagine if we had won last weeks match against the Bombers. We would then be looking at three wins after beating the desperately tanking West Coast, with matches against Fremantle and Richmond to come. Not a good outcome.

While I do desperately want to see our team show something and get a couple of wins on the board, I don't think it's worth it in the long run. We have waited too long for the premiership window to open again. This time we have to do things right and maximise our chances for 2011 onwards. The club has done the right thing off the ground. We have a great president and board. All we need is to stick to our guns and build a list to match.

[Gorgoroth 12,701]

No we beat the doggies and that stuffed us up

And I loved it that we beat them!

[beelzebub 23,197]

keep in mind the Weagles have 6 0f their last games at Subi..hopefully that helps us

[stranga 328]

No we beat the doggies and that stuffed us up

And I loved it that we beat them!

Short sighted views in Footy really annoy me. Its about premierships not meaningless victories in a losing season. Anyone who thinks that win against the doggies was worthwhile is on the wrong wave lenght.

I agree that id much rather lose to west coast and knock off maybe Carlton towards the end of the year. Beating West coast wont achieve anything and wont even really give me a good winning feeling, knowing that their hearts arent in it anyway and knowing what we risk losing.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

I want us to win every game. Picks smicks. If picks are that important why aren't Richmond up the top of the ladder? How come class players like Davey were passed over? What pick was James Hird? Why isn't Luke Molan tearing it up for us?

[Hobbits's 17]

I want us to win every game. Picks smicks. If picks are that important why aren't Richmond up the top of the ladder? How come class players like Davey were passed over? What pick was James Hird? Why isn't Luke Molan tearing it up for us?

Sign of the times recruiting now. They're more likely to get it right now than 10-15 years ago. Clubs have to get coaching right too. All due respect to Richmond they haven't got things right since '82.

[Roost It 1,434]

I'd like to win the last 3 rounds

[Strawbsodwyer 0]

very intresting in the tigers v eagles game last week, 3/4 time and game is potentially up for grabs and cox is on the bench for the first ten minutes, they are clearly tanking! I hate to say it but WE HAVE TO LOSE!

[52k2 0]

Can some of the losers please explain something for me, I am a bit slow.

Carlton tank and are known as carltank on this page, dam them those bloody cheats.

West coast is tanking now bloody handgropers!

Now us darling DEES, we dont tank, no not us, no sir we mearly lose.

Dam those other 2 cheating clubs.

Oh for gods sake dont blame carlton or WC as you want the same result but want to hold onto your virginity!

If you believe its in the best interest of the club to lose, fair enough thats your opinion and you have all

the right to think that.

BUT PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, you are carlton, you are WC no better no worse.

If you believe tanking is the way to go, please oh please call it what it is-

TANKING

[Freak 100]

yeh well i hope we tank. whats ur point?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I want us to win every game. Picks smicks. If picks are that important why aren't Richmond up the top of the ladder? How come class players like Davey were passed over? What pick was James Hird? Why isn't Luke Molan tearing it up for us?

I love a guy without a clue.

If you believe tanking is the way to go, please oh please call it what it is-

TANKING

We aren't good enough to tank.

Carlton were in winning positions in games in 2007 and rested better players and somehow forgot to tag opposition better players. And it was part of scheme to get Judd and pay him off Visy's payroll.

WCE won a flag in 2006 and still have 15 of their premiership team in and they win less than 5 games, two years in a row.

Perspective

[deeflog 679]

the sooner the AFL get rid of this bloody priority pick the better. i am so sick of all this negative talk, for professional associations to be promoting losing is terrible. i understand why we should loose this game but i also am sick of seeing "honorable losses"

Winning is a culture thing and an art you learn for the close games, and at the moment we would have no idea how to win games and i think it puts us back another season behind the rest of the league

[Rogue 585]

I want us to win every game. Picks smicks. If picks are that important why aren't Richmond up the top of the ladder?

...because they keep finishing 9th? :D

Can some of the losers please explain something for me, I am a bit slow.

Carlton tank and are known as carltank on this page, dam them those bloody cheats.

West coast is tanking now bloody handgropers!

Now us darling DEES, we dont tank, no not us, no sir we mearly lose.

Dam those other 2 cheating clubs.

It's probably something to do with the fact that our list is bad enough to warrant the PP, as RR suggested.

very intresting in the tigers v eagles game last week, 3/4 time and game is potentially up for grabs and cox is on the bench for the first ten minutes, they are clearly tanking! I hate to say it but WE HAVE TO LOSE!

We had Davey and Jones on the bench n the dying stages of our close match in the west a while back.

[Jaded No More 67,627]

I would be disappointed if we don't attempt to "list manage" that game. If we get out-tanked so be it, but I want to see us take a ruthless approach.

If it's good enough for West Coast, why shouldn't we do whatever we can to ensure we give ourselves every chance to get that all important pick 1. Losing Scully would be so much worse than losing a meaningless game

With that in mind, may we see Jetta in the ruck and Juice at FB

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

I'd like to win the last 3 rounds

I just want to get back to barracking for us again. That time could come as early as the end of round 19. After losing the last two weeks, particularly the game against the Dons, we are now a fair chance to win less than 5...

If we beat WC, which I still think we will, then we'll have to wait til the last 2 rounds to get excited.

I would dearly love for us to win 4, and be bottom. That we way improve, but still get the payoff.

I also like the idea of, say, a Freo or Richmond to end up on 3 wins... so we get picks 1 and 3, but avoid a spoon. That would be pretty good to avoid that stigma of back to back spoons.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

I love a guy without a clue.

Insightful.

[True Believer 1]

Insightful.

a BIG win for The Dees..round 14

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Insightful.

And your earlier post???

Brilliant.

[H_T 3,032]

The priority pick has to go........after this year.

Fair dinkum, this is our next home game and we need all the support we can get. We need 23,000 plus at this game. SH!T we'll all be nervous as hell during the game - we'll be watching every footstep, every handpass, every kick, every dropped mark will be monitored by all of us, scrutinized and posted about in the week following........... .

Ahhh [censored] it, let's just WIN it! Smash 'em by 139 points & enjoy it and watch Worsfold get the sack, then hope like hell we finish with 4 or less wins over the last 8 nervous rounds and West Coast win a couple by the end of year!

[furious d 447]

Put 50 on the Eagles for the spoon at 12 to 1 a week ago. If they manage to outtank us its $600 for debt demolition.

[titan_uranus 24,575]

I'm more worried about the potentially abysmal crowd than the result.

We must get 20,000+ to this game. And the next week vs Port. And the later match v Fremantle.

[rpfc 28,046]

Our fixture is like a poorly managed golf course.

The front 9 is effing impossible and the back 9 is filled with 120m par 3's.

We play WCE, Port, Rich, and Freo at the G. And NM at the most awful stadium in the world.

This back 9 is going to be problematic if we hit too many greens in regulation.

We really only want to hit 3 good shots... Maximum...

Hopefully our putting is terrible...