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Proud to say I have never once questioned Jefferson's development. Learnt a big lesson from when I thought Judd McVee was a certainty to be delisted after watching him at Casey in his first year. Thought it was a joke we gave him another year.. egg on my face now but since then I've reserved judgement on the likes of Jefferson and Adams because it just takes time and patience is needed. People forget that not everyone develops at a Nick Daicos level and everyone is different in terms of speed of development.

If we want to look at stats, he's currently equal seventh in the VFL goalkicking with 21. The leader is on 25 (with an extra game). I'm not sure how the 'best player' voting works, but the only Casey player with more games in the 'best' is Mitch White (9). Jeffo is equal with Laurie on 7. For reference, JVR kicked 33 from 18 games in 2022, finishing in the 'best player' 6 times. Jeffo is on pace to match that output, albeit in his second year.

But harsh, he has played 182 AFL games. On 30 players in VFL/AFL history have played more games for the MFC than Tomlinson has played in his career. Sure he hasn't been a superstar, but I reckon a player like Cam Pederson was a journeyman with 80 games over 8 years. Tomlinson has been a solid AFL player over the journey, it's just that he is behind in the pecking for his position at Melbourne.

I am a fan of Jeffo and have stuck fat. The decisions for the FD are probably is there a spot atm, is he ready to go at senior level, would a poor debut hurt him mentally and set him back and is he better than others available, or more deserving of an opportunity. Fullarton played in a final against us, plus other senior games, did ok and yet hasn’t got a game with us yet. Maybe this week will be his first. I am sure we have spoken to Jeffo about his progress many times and hopefully he is on board. Maybe he gets a game later or maybe another pre season is needed. Whatever, I am hopeful he will make it and when he comes in, he stays in, rather than being not ready and disappointing and setting him back.

JEFFERSON IS NOT READY FOR SENIOR FOOTY

Jed Obst, the son of Andrew Obst debuted for West Adelaide Rd 18 of last season https://westadelaidefc.com.au/teams-info/players/1011678/?league=sanfl&season=2024

Texts have been revealed from 3 current WC players discussing how they want the coach gone Things are going great out West My word we better belt them

Wouldn't you be better to wait until after the match to see the outcome? Making a statement ("Goodwin has no clue"), from a personal opinion about the decision, is illogical.

If we’d had Melky to come on in the last quarter we’d have been more likely to beat the Lions last week. Players come straight in if they’re better than those in the team. welcome back Jake..!

Looking at the two sides West Coast are not much less experienced than we are....you'd think a bottom team would be playing all kids but the Eagles have plenty of veterans - just not performing consistently anymore.

A forward who stops the other teams best interceptor. It's an extremely important role in the modern game.

Wtf is a second team?

Good to see bombers fans booing Maynard. They've got more taste than I thought!

Farris-White gets another gig! It'll be interesting to see how he's progressed after a decent stint at the lower level.

With Moore and Maynard playing, it's almost a certainty that someone from Essendon will get injured

My Milkshake brings all the noise that is marred.

Personally, I think this is a wonderful decision. Melks should return via the AFL team to help us win. Supporters continue to show they have no clue with their team selection advice.

I hope they keep Tholstrup and give him a decent run. Then perhaps Windsor as sub as he hasn’t done a lot the past couple of games and his kicking and handball radar has been well off.

Dees have a 100% strike rate of mistakenly bringing someone straight back in the senior. Buck the trend Jake

If there ever was a time for a test for Fullerton as a ruck chop out/big this would be it.

aussie foreplay

Great to see Andy MW keep his spot high hopes for the boy

We now have the biggest incentive to come out and smash Meth Coke by 80+ and end up on top of the filth at the end of this round

Both Daicos bros have been well tagged. There's a lesson to be learnt there by 17 other clubs

Eat a bag of [censored] Pies

That’s on you Maynard. Suck [censored]

I hate Essendon so much ... However ... POS (Maynard), Crisp, Diacos (x3*), De Goey, Howe, Side-ar@e, even 'Pendles', Schultz (he's just annoyting), their disgusting supporters, Triplechins McGuire ... need I go on? GO BOMBERS !!! *I've included the father

So how far can you run without bouncing.... Riv wants to know

Haven't read back more than a few pages but shocked there's not more discussion around Max King. Now out injured for the year. Was not playing well and seemed out of favor. He's still young for a tal and has produced in the past. He's a 50+ goal a year tall forward who's 200cm+ and can clunk a mark. He's the perfect tall forward target for us. I'd be throwing serious coin at him with offer of a fresh start at a better club etc. Go get the king!

I'd hate to see kolton as the sub I liked his game last week. Keep him in the rest of the year please !!

It’s my dream that fullarton can be that second Ruck and we leave JVR up forward to kick bags. 6 this week will do!

No one wins from that game.... hate them both. But hate Pies more so hope Bombers win.

How much more dangerous than Stock Aitken Waterman? We should be so lucky.

Historically my second team is whoever is playing Collingwood, so I last week I probably could have been swayed into buying a GC membership.

I actually think that's exactly what will happen, Melksham to play the negative role on Gov. Makes his first game back a simpler task mentally and we know he can do that job well.

I heard that at that time an Orange Bellied Parrot was resting on his shoulder... 🤭😏

It will be interesting to see how our forward line operates with Melksham and Fritsch together as there is potential headaches for the opposition. The good news is that either player can play that defensive role on a Harris Andrews/Jacob Weitering star defender. Perhaps one of them takes McGovern on Sunday. They only played together about 6 times last year, and in their last 2 games together Fritta went off injured in Alice and then Melk went off injured at the SCG, but they combined for 7 goals that day.

Pass on Silvagni (slow as a wet week), Lobb (see Jaded's post) Finn Callaghan - yes please! Pretty please!

I don’t see the rush. He is a skinny key position tall. Why no rush on Adams? We can’t let our desperation ruin his development. He’s finally showing consistent form at Casey and that’s all you can ask of him this year. I remember every man and his dog wanted Roo to debut in 2022 and he was far more physically developed. Roo had plenty of time to develop physically and work on his game and therefore has been able to make consistent impact at senior level. I wish the same for Jefferson and I think 2025 will be his year to try and cement an AFL spot. If finals is out of question we may give him a game later in the season for a taste, but right now bringing him in is setting him up to fail.

No, they played Windsor straight away because they saw he was ready even though for example to me it looked like Kolt was far more ready at pre-season training, they held Kolt back until he played well in the midfield at Casey and he is doing well now. They didn't play McVee in his first year when he looked miles off but played him round one in his second year when he had shown readiness on the back of a big pre-season. They held back JVR in his first year and unleashed him when he was ready in his second year and he has been a continuous selection every since, unlike KPFs at other clubs who are in and out. There are many other examples. Perhaps you prefer the Jack Watts QB experience or Michael Tucks 100 games in the 2s ...

Hibberd, Melksham, Langdon. All of these were great trades that happened before the flag. Good players with no history of behavioural issues. All contributed to winning in 2021 or getting close the following years. Hunter, Schache, Billings. All three were either average players or had behavioural issues. None got us closer to a flag. Lobb would be firmly in group with Hunter, Schache, Billings. We've got Fullarton and Verrall, it makes more sense to keep developing there.

Carlton are umpired differently to most other teams. No surprise they are where they are and their players are rarely ever suspended.

Who knows. I hate all teams except Melbourne on different scales. Perhaps it's the team you hate least?

Deven Robertson is pretty vanilla in my mind. Isn’t quick. Skills are average. Not really what we need.

The GoFundMe was a joke by the Suns social media team. The fine was a joke by the AFL/tribunal.

Good news, Moon. I just checked the ingredients and there are no bananas in McDonalds banana milkshakes.

Well .... I was wrong ( can't remember the last time ) .... didn't think that Milkshake would come straight back after such a break. Run out the game and kick three Jake !!!!!

you don't get a game based on draft number. Jeffo has only in the past 6-7 games starting showing anything close to AFL form Sparrow and Jordon both played zero games in their first 2 seasons. LJ Kozzi Rivers played 40+. Everyone is different.

Go look at some of the rubbish he and his partner put on social media. He is the most self absorbed, delusional player. Also commonly known that teammates dislike him and he cracks the sads whenever things aren't going his way. This will be his 4th club for a reason. Absolutely not worth it considering he's also a very ordinary footballer.

If that's true, I refuse to follow AFL any more: it is a stage occupied by puppet actors who simply follow orders from above, and I ain't talking about heaven. Also, WHY is the Press silent about this total distortion of Justice?????