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When the trade went through, Lever had just played off in a Grand Final and made the 2017 All Australian squad. He was one of the top young players in the league. Lever, 2017 Pick 37 and 2018 3rd round. FOR Pick 10, 2018 1st and 2018 4th round. Which seems to have worked out to be: Jake Lever Pick 37 2017: Harrison Petty (Melbourne) Pick 47 2018: Matthew Parker (StKilda) FOR Pick 10 2017: Lochie O'Brien (Carlton) Pick19 2018: Liam Stocker (Carlton) Pick 67 2018: Robbie Young (StKilda) Doesn't look too bad to me...

I never thought MFCSS could crossover to stressing about winning a game but here we are.

Surprised that nobody has thought to post this before.

Re-sign him now.

He’s not long come back from an ACL, can we at least let him have a pre-season and string some more games together. I understand being outraged on the internet is the in-thing these days but let’s hold off until mid-way through next season.

Nah. Clearly supporters have nfi of the impact a comeback from an ACL has on a player. Lever has now had two. Do you really think the club thought he'd do a second one on the other knee when trading for him? His intercept marking and killing of the contest are absolutely elite. Something that Oscar and Frost are questionable at. Yeh, he can clean up his skills but he is a gem and will prove his worth throughout the next 2-5 years.

Has been pointed out by a few already, but the O Mac goal was a rare moment of joy for the game for me and an even better moment for the man himself. Yes in the context of the game, it was a pretty meaningless act and goal, but I just thought that it was great for a guy who has struggled all season and been kicked in the guts by the game itself, commentators and many of our own supporters to get a little moment in the sun like that. Where O Mac goes as a footballer from here is yet to be seen, but I think it's a great mark of his character the way he has fought on and persevered this season when he has looked so beaten at times it must be pretty hard to keep getting back up and presenting.

Casey’s win puts the Demons into the top eight but they must defeat an improving Frankston at Casey next week and hope that Box Hill drops one of its two remaining games to play off in this year’s finals series. 2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL Casey Demons 2.0.12 4.3.27 5.7.37 8.9.57 Collingwood VFL 2.4.16 2.8.20 2.11.23 5.12.42 Goals Casey Demons Chandler Neal-Bullen J Wagner 2 Hutchins White Collingwood VFL Gallucci 2 Crocker Hetherington Stanford Best Casey Demons Keilty Hore Hutchins Tynan J Wagner Preuss Collingwood VFL Tardrew Woodward Hetherington Crocker Appleby Wellings Statistics Toby Bedford 1 behind 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 4 tackles 51 dream team points Austin Bradtke 1 behind 2 kicks 2 disposals 1 tackle 13 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 goals 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 5 tackles 69 dream team points Dylan Collis 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 52 dream team points Tom Freeman 12 kicks 2 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 64 dream team points Matt Gahan 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 64 dream team points Marty Hore 20 kicks 5 handballs 25 disposals 9 marks 2 tackles 100 dream team points Jack Hutchins 1 goals 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 10 marks 1 tackles 70 dream team points James Jordon 8 kicks 3 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 49 dream team points Declan Keilty 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 8 marks 1 tackle 1 hit out 60 dream team points Jay Lockhart 1 behind 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 39 dream team points Nick Lowden 2 kicks 4 handballs 6 disposals 1 mark 1 tackles 18 dream team points Corey Maynard 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 42 dream team points James Munro 11 kicks 11 handballs 22 disposals 9 marks 9 tackles 119 dream team points Alex Neal-Bullen 2 goals 8 kicks 7 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 77 dream team points Braydon Preuss 16 kicks 3 handballs 19 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 75 hit outs 149 dream team points Charlie Spargo 7 kicks 7 handballs 14 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 47 dream team points Cory Stockdale 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 51 dream team points Billy Stretch 10 kicks 8 handballs 18 disposals 2 marks 1 tackles 53 dream team points Luke Tynan 13 kicks 8 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 80 dream team points Josh Wagner 2 goals 20 kicks 2 handballs 22 disposals 7 marks 4 tackles 101 dream team points Liam Wale-Buxton 1 behind 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 13 hit outs 50 dream team points Mitch White 1 goal 2 behinds 10 kicks 1 handballs 11 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 64 dream team points

Its an interesting one. I am more intrigued on how a fully fit Tom McDonald, Sam Weideman and Bayley Fritsch and even throw a Harrison Petty will all function next year? Weideman, McDonald and Fritta never once played forward together this year.. at all. I also named Petty because in my eyes he is definitely worth training with the forwards over the pre season. He has got vice like hands and with McDonald and Weideman taking the 2st and 2nd key defender that leaves Petty with the 3rd tall and Fritsch to play as that roaming half forward.

Not by Clint Bizkit's standards. Like praha and BBP, it's glass half empty, always. IMO saying our list isn't good enough and that we need to start again, aside from being pure pessimism, just isn't a reasonable position to take based on this year in the context of the last five years. If we struggle again in 2020 then that will change things, but given what we did with our list and culture from 2014-2018, I don't accept that 2019 is enough evidence to say we're cooked and we need to rebuild.

Don’t go coming round here with your logic and reasoning.

? I would do the trade again in a heart beat.

Fritts and Petty were already positives before yesterday. Yesterdays game was poor again, in skill and effort. I am now looking at the coaching, as injuries are no longer the excuse for style of play, especially when your opponents injuries are far worse. This is is the second time in 3 years, where a decimated Pies side has belted us. Don’t be fooled by the margin at the end, like the Bombers last night, we got a few last minute junk time goals. I just can’t believe we had Coaches yesterday who left the most dangerous Pie unmanned the whole game. Sidebottom was actually laughing at times. We seem to be labouring under a play on at all costs game plan, which with our poor skill, is destroying us every game. Sad to say this, but you have to stop caring, because it is too upsetting. This would have to be one of the most disappointing seasons for us in the last 50 years, as we had so much hope for the year.

You say that as if they were two different posters!

I reckon I've worked it out. 1. Gary Busey played Buddy Holly in a movie. 2. Buddy Holly used to slick his hair back with oil. 3. This left an oilslick 4. Oilslick and olisik ... not too far apart are they? 5. Buddy Holly, like olisik, liked to "Rave On". Join the dots, people.

I think it'll work out I'm a huge fan of Lever and like so many of our underdone players in 2019, looking forward to a terrific 2020 from him

Did u ask him to come back and finish the job??

Saw Roosy at the footy yesterday wearing a Dees scarf.

God, give me strength. It was 18 months ago for f..k sakes.

Yes i agree. Pert or Bartlett need to give the 52,000 members a full apology for the 2019 Campaign. It has failed on every level. Goodwin sending me a Post Match email telling me of weekly improvements is just a complete punch in the guts and it shows me that he has no idea. Worsfold last night at least owned the result and apologised for it and said it will be worked out. Goodwin has never done that, his message is always to be patient. That tells me two things. Denial and Spin... A long gruelling summer awaits this soft club...

Honestly I would take JKH ahead of ANB in a heart beat. In fact I'd trade ANB back to SA and keep JKH and put Stretch on the rookie list. JKH would have played a lot more games this year had it not been for his knee injury, and I think based on his last 2 games the club haven't exactly put a line through his name and really want to give him a chance to prove himself and so far the last 2 games he hasn't put a foot wrong. Stretch is another who just hasn't had a clear run at it for the past 2 years due to injury.

Hard on Dunkley 4 games, 18 years old, no pre season I believe he'll be just as good as his bro (and it took him 4 or 5 years) to reach his current level

Last year I'd forgotten about the joy to be had celebrating other teams misery. Kind of like when you're out and someone elses kids behave worse than yours.

If you can maintain a sense of humour reading the armageddon topics and posts on Demonland since the pooh hit the fan early in the season you'd think there is NO LIFE AFTER THE DEMISE IN 2019 OF THE MFC. I'm here to balance things a bit. Let's look at this week's results for a start. Almost all of the games involved what we called once Thrashings. Melbourne was one of the few who weren't demolished. In fact, this team of dastards and underachievers hasn't been thrashed since early in the season, but if you mention this, it's Goody putting his spin on things. That's the bright side. Then there's the Misson Catastrophe, major in the eyes of some posters. A conspiracy theorist might wish to imply Misson was planted by the AFL to totally ROON us. For the record, I don't believe this is or was the case. Most other teams have suffered injurious slings and arrows as well. Only Misson can be blamed for ours, including the lamentable fact of life that after the 2018 season which saw many Demons on their last legs and in need of the the interventions of many surgeons. That was/is obviously Misson's fault as well. Then there's the rabble rousing bleats about the efficacy of the Coach. Well, in my estimation, he's the same coach who got Melbourne within a bee's protruding bit to a final in 2017, to a Prelim in 2018. So it MUST be his fault that in 2019 the wheels fell off. Then there's the new Ceo, Gary Pert. Obviously as much of the blame for all this MUST be to do with him and the Board. A Ceo and the Board are in total charge of operations after all, therefore it must be ALL THEIR FAULT EXCEPT FOR GOODWIN'S FAULT AND MISSON'S FAULT. Then there's the Il Capitano's, both hopeless leaders, let's trade one of them, force the other to retire and let's appoint ....well who we don't know but when we do all will be solved, except for Pert, Misson, the Board, Goodwin and the Umpires, we mustn't forget about them...Oh, I forgot, Misson is gone, gone gone. Oh, and Chaplin, Rooke, Macca and blow me down, Plapp, anyone else we can blame????????

Win, just effing win. Resting our future on playing (or not playing) for picks left a stain on our club that will never be removed. Couldn’t care less where we finish in the picks order. Call that dumb if you want but I’d rather us finish the year with the boys singing the song than us debating what pick we’ll get from losing.

Another troll decides to sign up and stick the boots in. Go and Get French connectioned Constable.

I think there's a lot of misunderstanding going on. The camp itself is not affecting our performance right now. The aftermath of unchecked resentment against a leader COULD be killing our drive and "connection" between Goodwin's game plan on paper and our execution. If players don't respect you they won't bleed for you out on the footy field. To those who say "it was 18 months ago, get over it" try telling that to a bitter spouse 18 months after you cheat on her (just to show an example of how impressions and biases last and bitterness remains when left to fester rather than be properly addressed and confronted). People arguing otherwise must not know what it feels like to work under a boss who [censored] you off months ago and doesn't seem to give a stuff. Even the sight of their face can annoy you. I'm not saying this is happening now, but it could be considering the ODD malaise that hit so many of our playing group. This goes beyond general conditioning. Teams don't just plummet like we did without some weird [censored] going on. It's too extreme a downfall for there to be a simple explanation. Calling this a blip is offensive.

The concrete mitts being put to good use... He needs to play final 2 AFL games to help build some level of confidence at the top level. He's an exciting prospect if he can get the basics going

Kade Chandler scored the last goal to make it a 15 points win for the Demons.

A club with decent leaders would never have this happen. That the players felt they had to go to the PA is a complete indictment on Goodwin and our leadership group.. We are still feeling the effects because we have no leadership other than Gawn and Goodwin and his coaching staff are clueless how to fix our 'game plan'. Headless chooks the lot of them

Goal to ANB - lead out to 8 points.

Yesterday I had the honour of standing near Collingwood supporters. 1. They were absolutely infatuated with Fritsch. They love him. Baker as well. They were getting stuck into Oliver and Jones. "Tackle, tackle" they would jeer every time Jones or Viney would go to impact a contest. 2. Eventually it got to a point where they were dissecting Melbourne's play along with me and 2 other Melbourne supporters nearby. Actually turned into a half-decent conversation (when one of their drunk 50-something mates wasn't straight up insulting me for supporting Melbourne) Without fail, every time we marked or took possession across the flanks or CHF, it was like we waited for Collingwood to flood. We would have a paddock of space ahead, and one, maybe two, one-on-ones, mostly Fritsch, and occasionally one of OMac or Melksham. We almost never, ever kicked it to the advantage of our forwards, blatantly ignored leads, and almost always only went forward once Howe or someone else had plugged the hole. This made Fritsch's marks inside 50 stands out all the more because every time he was kicked the ball he was almost always surrounded by 2-3 Pies players, or had to impact a contest with 2-3 players. It was rather astonishing every time someone pointed it out: Melbourne players would actually wait and watch as black and white streamed into our forward line. I can't fathom it. There was no kicking to space; no leading into the space; no kicks to advantage. Nothing. Just mindless, blind kicks to contests. This is actually, literally our gameplan: avoid space, minimise turnovers in space, and thus, put the ball at the advantage of our contested ball winners. The problem is, we get found out time and time again. Players are hesitant to kick to space and kick to a one-on-one because they're petrified of the turnover and opposition transition. Rather than adjusting and implementing a strategy that allows for two-way running, open space, and free-flowing football, we will the match and opposition to turn it into a slog, which is in effect an act in margin minimisation. The second half of the year has seen "improvement" from garbage, but do you all realise what we are right now? We are now the Roos-coached team circa 2014. This is the Roos mantra we are seeing. Numbers behind the ball, condensed play and contests, low scoring. Margin minimisation. It is pitiful to watch, and trying to find any sort of positives is futile because we're not supposed to. Goodwin has lost the players this year and is already looking to 2020. It is pointless even watching these remaining matches because they are hopeless, pathetic attempts at trying to look "meaningful" and "positive" when in actual fact the fans are being taken for a huge ride. The towel has been thrown in, which is a pathetic indictment on a team that has purportedly been trying to build a winning culture. Even when the year is dead and buried to play to win and you stand for something. We are a pathetic club and nothing short of a flag next year would change my perception. We could make a Prelim and I wouldn't give a [censored], that this year even turned out to be the way it is says to me that absolutely nothing has changed. Still we find ourselves falling to new depths of mediocrity. It happens time and time again and some here refuse to see it. "Disappointed" is an understatement. Goodwin needs to stop cuddling and nurturing this playing group. It's not 2014 anymore. The club should be angry at this year because the impact felt across the club is disastrous. 31k yesterday vs Collingwood is [censored] pathetic and it's 100% entirely unequivocally the club's fault.

I'm glad there is some love for JKH although he's not the classiest of players, not once did i see him standing or jogging whilst opposition players ran amuck, unlike some of his team mates

#Missonmyths

Good on her. This happens too often. I heard today Collingwood supporters plonked themselves in the Melbourne reserved seats without being questioned by staff. Did they sit there quietly? No. They sit there on purpose to stir trouble and show everyone their lack of brain cells by being loud and obnoxious. Finally get told to get out. Still have to mouth off the usual s#*t when they leave and in the food queues. Arrogant twerps. Go West Coast, Go West Coast. ?

Well I have to say I haven't posted in quite some time, but I am totally and utterly sick of the same players, and the team generally, making the same mistakes week in week out. I don't want to name names for the players making the same errors week on week, but I have serious concerns about the coaching team's ability to influence and improve players' flaws. Too many players who choose the wrong options or can't execute basic skills. As for the team, we continue to be moths to a flame. We draw too many to the contest (at ground level and in the air) and don't defend on the outside. Every week. We half lead, not to advantage, then kick it to even less advantage. We fail to tackle well enough to stop the ball going out to the opposition's advantage. We cannot keep the ball in our forward line. Same every week

That’s really harsh. I know hating on Omac is flavour of the month but he honestly played well today. Was aggressive at the ball, and hit targets. Considering he’s never played forward or ruck, he did well. Needs a break. He’s hardly the core of our issues.

Whats the problem if he has an opinion, or Caroline Wilson, or Kane Cornes, or some dude/dudette on Demonland? In all seriousness - it's all just fugazi and irrelevant to decisions made internally....

2019 in a single post.

I have knocked him from pillar to post. But i did smile when Oscar kicked his first goal. Good on him. I'll give him credit, he actually went in hard into the the contest with such aggression that I have never seen from him. With May going down I'd say he'll go back to defence for the remaining 2 games.

So shaw has coached his 2nd game now officially and his team has scored the teams lowest score in history. Anyway back to the other game. Seriously I was hoping the dogs would win but would never have predicted that. Guess what the talk will be about the next 2 days. My day did get better

Bugger, Bummers can now post the ‘All The Goals’ video on their website.

Turnovers after quarter time, missed set shots in the first quarter. Gawn, Petracca x2 and Fritsch. Scoreboard pressure would've made a big difference with the Pies being so far off their game. Compare it to the game in 2017 where they came out and couldn't miss. We were 7 goals down before we knew what had happened. We could've done the same to them today but missed costly set shots. Started off with Gawn not even making the distance in the first 5 minutes. Gawn and Petracca should be forced to take 100 set shots every day over summer. It's all about routine with these two, you can see it in their run up they have no confidence they'll kick the goal. Petracca continued his good form today if he can sort out his set shots he'll have a breakout season next year tearing games apart.

My thoughts exactly. We got Lever on spec, so to speak. It was a gamble in so far as we were betting he based on one terrific season that he would be star of the competition. The comparison to rance was being made. I really hope this proves to be that case. May was a much better bet in terms of exposed form. I love how he has played for us thus far and assuming he can stay fit i am much more confident we have pulled the right lever (pardon the pun) with him

I genuinely don't understand the Lever criticism, which I suppose might mean I'm on my own in thinking he was OK. He could be better, and we all want him to be an AA-defender week in and week out, but I thought he was pretty good today. There are so many other parts of our game today that stood out to me as problematic rather than Lever. As I said, maybe I'm on my own on this, but I really think too many have stupidly high expectations of him, the more so when the commentary around someone like Preuss is generally far more positive.