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Our first-to-fourth-year players will return to the club next week. Upcoming Men's Training Session Date: Monday, 19 November Session start time: 10.00am Location: Gosch's Paddock, Olympic Bvd, Melbourne

If he is anything like Carey we’ll be happy...

After the first round I believe the discount becomes 197 draft points So pick 54 can match any pick up to 41 straight up. Adding in pick 61 allows up to match any pick up until 34. Sydney have 26, 33, 38, 39, 40 most of which will be swallowed up by 1 player. North have 42, 47, 48, 49 and 58 most of which will be used on 2 players. Collingwood have 41, 44, 57, 59 and 60 to use on 2 players. Pick 54 and 62 will likely end up as something like pick 48 and 53. When added to a discount that's enough to match pick 26

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I'm clearly going mad. But so are they if they think Stevie J should be ahead of him.

I’m definitely in the Williams camp as well but we don’t know what the recruiters are thinking. The player I also like is Bytel but his selection would depend very much on his medicals after an injury-affected year has seen him plummet from a top 10 prospect to a late second rounder.

Ditto. Their stupidity just never ceases to amaze.

Only less physical sports have "play offs" as the player can recover. Football codes, like ours, rugby and grid iron you can't back up a GF intensity over the multiple weeks and have a good quality game to watch. Beside if you know your going to loose the first one, imagine the losing side going in preservation mode and benching their best players for the following week as a spectacle.

That would signal the end of AFL for me.

If Menzel kicks 4 against Geelong I'll be very happy.

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Yes I like the team but hope we can weave in Preuss and Vanders into our best 22 as I would love us to be a physically intimidating team that can match it with the best sides in talent as well. A lot of premierships have been won by nasty sides who blend mongrel with talent.

Roughly about one season 'Fifty'... Previous once in a generation players to name a few have been Lynch, Danniher, Hogan, Boyd, Moore etc.... The way once in a generation is going I'm pretty sure we can get it down to a week.

The BS spouted in these reviews goes on: Lukosius: "The key forward is a ‘once in a generation’ prospect and is one of the best player we’ve seen in the Under 18 system for a long time." How long is a generation? Has this guy ever seen Buddy Franklin or Nick Riewoldt? i'm dubious about "super draft" prognostication, I've seen it all before.

But Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and JR Richardson (The Big Boppa) we’re dead. And so was I when I think about it.

Welcome back BB.

Spanking the monkey?

If anyone tries to nominate Bedford in the 20s, they are joking. He is good but lots more development needed. Needs to get the footy more. 10 touches a game is not enough at TAC level to warrant.

ALL TOGETHER NOW cause there's up to three days in september with a minimum of two and extending into october think of the turnover there isn't any doubting gil will be there counting football's such a part of channel 7 they're hoping they'll go to ratings heaven

The expectant Daisy is being used as an assistant coach for the 1st year women. There's an article on the AFL site about it. Love that she's developing her coaching skills this way, has a very good football brain.

I understand the arguments for it, particularly from the point of view if interstate sides, but it just feels wrong. It all builds to one single day at the MCG, it’s not a hidden fact it happens every year, you bring it that day (as West Coast did this year) or you don’t (Adelaide last year). Putting it over three weeks begs certain questions for me: - is it Home leg, Away leg, Neutral leg over the three matches? - if a team has already won by the second game is the third match called off? - not suggesting this happens but a tactic could be game one the away team decides to target critical players for game one to make them unavailable for the other 2 games? I would also argue that if the two teams playing were Victorian it immediately makes the whole thing pointless. I also feel it loses the title “Grand Final”.

So we'd be listening to a song about Those three days in September/October? Sounds about right to me. Would we have three public holidays as well? Would they play the third even if it was a dead rubber? Would they give medals to every player who played in any of the three games? What would they do if a side sent their seconds over to Perth for match two to get an advantage in the third game back at home again?

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Outstanding. A very comprehensive guide.

Not sure of the source, but this sounds like just another thread in the AFL’s strategy to give the AFL a media presence in what was traditionally the off season. Don’t get sucked in to their malicious media spin.

Nope, nope, nope. Teams when entering the league knew full well that AFL Grand Finals are played at the MCG, shouldn't have entered if they don't like it. Beside it's a bloody Grand Final. No matter where or when, teams should be ready to play, it is for the ultimate prize, so there needs no extra motivation to play. Should interstate stadiums get to 100,000+ capacity, and the highest team qualified for the GF is from said state, then so be it, but until then, the biggest game needs to be played in the biggest stadium.

Best of 3 prelim please

AFL: "Let's nix the drawn grand final cos it causes too much trouble and it's hard for everyone to back up the big day. Also who cares about tradition!" Also the AFL: "Hey kids let's have a best of three grand final!!!"

Three grannies but presumably just the one cup.

From memory, the Perth Stadium has been built in such a way that adding another 20,000 seats in the future won't be too hard and require any major demolition prior to upgrade. But the current deal with the MCG until 2057 means I'll either be dead or back in nappies by then anyway. Let's not forget the angst it causes bulk West Aussies either.... It's still the VFL!! The MCG grand final deal is nothing but a VFL relic One Granny only please.

This is my big issue. I would be pissed if I couldn't get a ticket to an interstate Grand Final that we were involved in. Until they can get close to 80,000+ it's a no from me.

Absolute cow tish ... what are the qualifying and preliminaries/semies for if not to lead to the final play-off. This would wreck our traditional, historical and practical finals series. Players at the end of the season whose teams make the GF are not to be expected to endure yet another 'round of finals pressure, both mentally and physically.

I’m a definite no on the best of 3 grand finals, but my stance on the MCG only grannies has softened. If grounds interstate can be brought up to standard (high capacity, facilities, etc) then it should change in the future.

Still not convinced english is Clarry's first language.

We were a much better side late in the season when Frost came back in.

Now with 10% more Frost.

These games are being played the weekend after next Wadda as we've got the Nations League this weekend. Leave them up if you want though and we can use them for the following weekend Anyway, here are my tips for this weekend. Bit of value involved so make of them what you will. There are a number of other classic match-ups in League A this weekend featuring the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, France & Spain. Nations League Monday 1.00am England Win & +2.5 Goals Match Score ($3.00) vs Croatia Nations League Monday 6.45am Switzerland vs Belgium Win & +2.5 Goals Match Score ($3.40)

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Need to free up some space, I vote Lewis off the island

Really?

I have yet to discover one Bbo. But as my wife constantly reminds me ageing is better than the alternative.

For something a little different here's Equestrian legend Andrew Hoy on 'After the Last' shown earlier tonight. A fascinating character and a real high achiever - gives some great insights in the interview. Andrew Hoy - After the Last

That voice was none other than Edward Gough Whitlam. The same man who, when asked by an annoying journalist about his position on abortion, replied, "In your case, I believe it should be retrospective."

Back full circle to Sandown this week although the fields are not overly strong, all things considered. Still, there are some good betting races to be had (Races 5, 7, 8 & 9 have an even spread of chances) The 3 feature races at Ascot (WA) this Saturday holds some interest as well - building nicely to the 3 Group 1's coming up over the next month or so. Pounamu won't be seen though which is a shame - in the paddock at the owners property (somewhere in NSW) after having a minor setback. Trainer not happy. Material Man will be back however after bypassing the Spring over here. Full Card - Sandown Hillside Saturday 17th Full Card - Ascot (WA) Saturday 17th

Is he becoming a reporter???

Australian Group & Listed Races Best Bet Strike Rate 57: 21 - 6 - 9

I'm a big fan of O'Halloran. It takes a lot to be a captain of a rep side and he did it well. Has speed and great kicking skills. He should be around the early 20's mark so here is hoping.